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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 12:56 pm
Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Half pay is fine with me, mission inconclusive basically just means nothing of vital importance was discerned from the mission, however there was enough information given to justify yet another case and another mission. Yeah you could open up a sealing shop, Luo would definitely by seals from you. In fact.....I've been trying to figure out how to get some seals for a project Luo wants to commission for Kirigakure's defense, so you'd probably end up working super close to him. I wouldn't go the full shop route, since that's expensive. More of a by request, he can do it sort of thing. You're free to commission him on anything as well, so no worries about how to get the seals. =p Just have Luo tell him what he wants the seals to do and he'll come up with something either from what he knows or from the library. Or, if it doesn't exist, create it. Well first Luo's gotta know that he's selling his services haha. I'll probably send for him so he can fill out a shinobi profile and find out that way. Well, as a shinobi in your service and a sealing specialist, you can already commission seals from him anyways. Just make it a mission or request or something. Same as you'd ask your assassin ninja to go kill someone.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:00 pm
Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Half pay is fine with me, mission inconclusive basically just means nothing of vital importance was discerned from the mission, however there was enough information given to justify yet another case and another mission. Yeah you could open up a sealing shop, Luo would definitely by seals from you. In fact.....I've been trying to figure out how to get some seals for a project Luo wants to commission for Kirigakure's defense, so you'd probably end up working super close to him. I wouldn't go the full shop route, since that's expensive. More of a by request, he can do it sort of thing. You're free to commission him on anything as well, so no worries about how to get the seals. =p Just have Luo tell him what he wants the seals to do and he'll come up with something either from what he knows or from the library. Or, if it doesn't exist, create it. Well first Luo's gotta know that he's selling his services haha. I'll probably send for him so he can fill out a shinobi profile and find out that way. Well, as a shinobi in your service and a sealing specialist, you can already commission seals from him anyways. Just make it a mission or request or something. Same as you'd ask your assassin ninja to go kill someone. Well I can't commission seals from someone I have no clue is capable of the feat. Luo has to learn organically that you're a capable sealing master.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:21 pm
Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Half pay is fine with me, mission inconclusive basically just means nothing of vital importance was discerned from the mission, however there was enough information given to justify yet another case and another mission. Yeah you could open up a sealing shop, Luo would definitely by seals from you. In fact.....I've been trying to figure out how to get some seals for a project Luo wants to commission for Kirigakure's defense, so you'd probably end up working super close to him. I wouldn't go the full shop route, since that's expensive. More of a by request, he can do it sort of thing. You're free to commission him on anything as well, so no worries about how to get the seals. =p Just have Luo tell him what he wants the seals to do and he'll come up with something either from what he knows or from the library. Or, if it doesn't exist, create it. Well first Luo's gotta know that he's selling his services haha. I'll probably send for him so he can fill out a shinobi profile and find out that way. Well, as a shinobi in your service and a sealing specialist, you can already commission seals from him anyways. Just make it a mission or request or something. Same as you'd ask your assassin ninja to go kill someone. Well I can't commission seals from someone I have no clue is capable of the feat. Luo has to learn organically that you're a capable sealing master. He did tell you right from the start... Though I suppose he hasn't actually shown any seals he's done yet. You could ask him to do them as a test, to see if he's a qualified sealer and try to place his skill level.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:26 pm
Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Half pay is fine with me, mission inconclusive basically just means nothing of vital importance was discerned from the mission, however there was enough information given to justify yet another case and another mission. Yeah you could open up a sealing shop, Luo would definitely by seals from you. In fact.....I've been trying to figure out how to get some seals for a project Luo wants to commission for Kirigakure's defense, so you'd probably end up working super close to him. I wouldn't go the full shop route, since that's expensive. More of a by request, he can do it sort of thing. You're free to commission him on anything as well, so no worries about how to get the seals. =p Just have Luo tell him what he wants the seals to do and he'll come up with something either from what he knows or from the library. Or, if it doesn't exist, create it. Well first Luo's gotta know that he's selling his services haha. I'll probably send for him so he can fill out a shinobi profile and find out that way. Well, as a shinobi in your service and a sealing specialist, you can already commission seals from him anyways. Just make it a mission or request or something. Same as you'd ask your assassin ninja to go kill someone. Well I can't commission seals from someone I have no clue is capable of the feat. Luo has to learn organically that you're a capable sealing master. He did tell you right from the start... Though I suppose he hasn't actually shown any seals he's done yet. You could ask him to do them as a test, to see if he's a qualified sealer and try to place his skill level. Ah yeah he did, that slipped my mind completely. Yeah I'll call on him some point soon and just have him do a show of his abilities before I commission him for work.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:30 pm
Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Well first Luo's gotta know that he's selling his services haha. I'll probably send for him so he can fill out a shinobi profile and find out that way. Well, as a shinobi in your service and a sealing specialist, you can already commission seals from him anyways. Just make it a mission or request or something. Same as you'd ask your assassin ninja to go kill someone. Well I can't commission seals from someone I have no clue is capable of the feat. Luo has to learn organically that you're a capable sealing master. He did tell you right from the start... Though I suppose he hasn't actually shown any seals he's done yet. You could ask him to do them as a test, to see if he's a qualified sealer and try to place his skill level. Ah yeah he did, that slipped my mind completely. Yeah I'll call on him some point soon and just have him do a show of his abilities before I commission him for work. Awesome. May I have a preview of what you're looking for in these commissioned seals too? That way I can begin considering how to create them, or create even better versions now, and give it time to simmer and explode, rather than just thinking it up on the spot then and possibly getting inferior products.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:05 pm
Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Well first Luo's gotta know that he's selling his services haha. I'll probably send for him so he can fill out a shinobi profile and find out that way. Well, as a shinobi in your service and a sealing specialist, you can already commission seals from him anyways. Just make it a mission or request or something. Same as you'd ask your assassin ninja to go kill someone. Well I can't commission seals from someone I have no clue is capable of the feat. Luo has to learn organically that you're a capable sealing master. He did tell you right from the start... Though I suppose he hasn't actually shown any seals he's done yet. You could ask him to do them as a test, to see if he's a qualified sealer and try to place his skill level. Ah yeah he did, that slipped my mind completely. Yeah I'll call on him some point soon and just have him do a show of his abilities before I commission him for work. Awesome. May I have a preview of what you're looking for in these commissioned seals too? That way I can begin considering how to create them, or create even better versions now, and give it time to simmer and explode, rather than just thinking it up on the spot then and possibly getting inferior products. Can you work with LT to make explosive shrapnel tags? twisted
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:13 pm
LordTares Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Well I can't commission seals from someone I have no clue is capable of the feat. Luo has to learn organically that you're a capable sealing master. He did tell you right from the start... Though I suppose he hasn't actually shown any seals he's done yet. You could ask him to do them as a test, to see if he's a qualified sealer and try to place his skill level. Ah yeah he did, that slipped my mind completely. Yeah I'll call on him some point soon and just have him do a show of his abilities before I commission him for work. Awesome. May I have a preview of what you're looking for in these commissioned seals too? That way I can begin considering how to create them, or create even better versions now, and give it time to simmer and explode, rather than just thinking it up on the spot then and possibly getting inferior products. Can you work with LT to make explosive shrapnel tags? twisted <.< >.>Maaaaaaybe?
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:42 pm
Hinote Tosatsu LordTares Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Well I can't commission seals from someone I have no clue is capable of the feat. Luo has to learn organically that you're a capable sealing master. He did tell you right from the start... Though I suppose he hasn't actually shown any seals he's done yet. You could ask him to do them as a test, to see if he's a qualified sealer and try to place his skill level. Ah yeah he did, that slipped my mind completely. Yeah I'll call on him some point soon and just have him do a show of his abilities before I commission him for work. Awesome. May I have a preview of what you're looking for in these commissioned seals too? That way I can begin considering how to create them, or create even better versions now, and give it time to simmer and explode, rather than just thinking it up on the spot then and possibly getting inferior products. Can you work with LT to make explosive shrapnel tags? twisted <.< >.>Maaaaaaybe? twisted ill take forty stare
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:55 pm
LordTares Hinote Tosatsu LordTares Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Ah yeah he did, that slipped my mind completely. Yeah I'll call on him some point soon and just have him do a show of his abilities before I commission him for work. Awesome. May I have a preview of what you're looking for in these commissioned seals too? That way I can begin considering how to create them, or create even better versions now, and give it time to simmer and explode, rather than just thinking it up on the spot then and possibly getting inferior products. Can you work with LT to make explosive shrapnel tags? twisted <.< >.>Maaaaaaybe? twisted ill take forty stare That'll be 213,200 gold please.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:57 pm
Hinote Tosatsu LordTares Hinote Tosatsu LordTares Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Ah yeah he did, that slipped my mind completely. Yeah I'll call on him some point soon and just have him do a show of his abilities before I commission him for work. Awesome. May I have a preview of what you're looking for in these commissioned seals too? That way I can begin considering how to create them, or create even better versions now, and give it time to simmer and explode, rather than just thinking it up on the spot then and possibly getting inferior products. Can you work with LT to make explosive shrapnel tags? twisted <.< >.>Maaaaaaybe? twisted ill take forty stare That'll be 213,200 gold please. That number feels exaggerated.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:59 pm
Anonymous_Alcoholic Hinote Tosatsu LordTares Hinote Tosatsu LordTares Can you work with LT to make explosive shrapnel tags? twisted <.< >.>Maaaaaaybe? twisted ill take forty stare That'll be 213,200 gold please. That number feels exaggerated. You're right. I forgot to include materials. It's actually 215,400 gold.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:10 pm
LordTares TvIaMsOqTuHeYz Hinote Tosatsu TvIaMsOqTuHeYz Hinote Tosatsu I feel the undying need to point out that you are comparing evidence from the Mythbusters, a group well known for having no actual idea what they are doing, and ruining nearly every experiment they do by using flawed methods, to the testimony of an actual soldier with actual experience with the object in question. And also a Wikipedia article, but I think the soldier part holds more sway here. The Mythbusters are SPECIAL EFFECTS experts. NOT scientists, and CERTAINLY not a good source of evidence in any matter. Except perhaps that watching stuff blow up is fun. How is their method flawed? Sure the experiments aren't completely controlled, but they still function to prove a point. I'm not saying that LT is wrong, but it is only a sure kill at 10 feet. at 15, you're probably bleeding from your ears and will die in a minute or so, but it isn't enough concussive force to just outright kill you. That's all I was saying. I understand they are Special effects experts, but I'm fairly certain they have ACTUAL scientists behind them, the ones you see are the face of mythbusters. They sought to prove you could not clean a concrete truck of hardened concrete with dynamite (A practice I know for a fact to be true.), by filling a truck with cement, dumping explosives on top of it, and setting it off. Because it didn't work, they deemed the "Myth" busted. When in fact it did not work, because they used the dynamite WRONG, and put more cement in the barrel than a truck would normally haul in the first place, much less allow to build up. Edit: They also used the wrong kind of dynamite. I rather forgot to mention that. They sought to prove you could not cut the barrel off an overheated machine gun with a sword, by putting a gun barrel in a bed of coals until it was red hot, carrying it into another room, spending several minutes attaching it to a mechanism, and then using a powerful mechanical arm to swing a sword at several times the speed and strength a human could achieve, a power the sword was not built to withstand, and deemed it busted because their methods caused the sword to break instead of the no longer hot barrel. I could most likely go on, but I haven't watched them in a while to see any other instances. However, rest assured, anything they do, while it may look cool, is done for the sake of TV value, and not actual science. They rarely do their experiments properly, and only go for the biggest cinematic bang they can achieve. ~ The fifteen foot instant death radius of a grenade's explosion is the distance the explosion itself reaches. The fire, concussive force, and shrapnel itself are all at their strongest within that point. The severe injury radius just from the shrapnel and concussive force extends much further, to a point I cannot recall, but I believe it is several yards out. Beyond that the shrapnel continues for up to two hundred plus yards, still able to deal significant damage. Place a shrapnel or fragmentation grenade within fifteen feet of any soft material, such as a body or ballistics gel, and I guarantee it will be completely shredded and unrecognizable after it goes off. If you did not die instantly, you would die within seconds. If by some miracle you survived longer, the kindest thing anyone nearby could do would be to kill you. If it is not instant death, you will wish it was. Thus, if it was not, it should have been. I'll grant you that they used to be much worse than they are, but now they are beginning to use much more science. Adam and Jamie are at least, Grant, Karie, and Tori all are still kinda into the explosions nd stuff, but they still use science. They used pressure plates ( Ones that break underneath the amount of force needed to kill a human ) in a radius around it, in a spiral pattern so as to not block any of them with the others. Then when they detonated the charge, it didn't break the ones at 10 feet out. It wrinkled them terribly, but no breakage. This sin't with shrapnel or anything, this is the explosive force itself. As i have stated before, there are exceptions to every rule. It could all have different outcomes base on un measureable variables, such as tempature, elevation, airpressure, wind, dirt/dust, rocks, who threw the grenade and how good is their arm, did they eat that morning before blowing sh!t up, was there a breeze, what kind of grenade did they use, what year was the grenade made, where what it made, and what made it. Did the grenade detonate in the air or was it on the ground, did they place the explosive on some sort of stand and just runaway, etc. There are just too may things to take into account and those were just a few reasons why when i throw a grenade is different from when a scientist does it. We just need to decide what is the effectiveness of an explosive tag comparable to a grenade. Reminds me of that one time when i threw a grenade and it bounced off the tree branches in front of me and landed right back in my lap sweatdrop It was on the ground in the middle of a circle. ( I think it was a pinapple grenade, not sure if the charge is different between those and other types of grenades. ) And like Hinote said, that seems like it would have been quite scary, despite if it was a dud. I would have flipped out if I was simply training and not stationed elsewhere. sweatdrop I'm not the bravest man...Also, in regards to the shrapnel explosive tags, why not have an explosive tag with a small storage seal attached that expels a small amount of metal on top of the tag and then the explosion launches it?
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:13 pm
Because that would be incredibly complicated to actually time properly, and if you were going that simple you could just as easily just buy a tag and slap a few makibishi on it...
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:54 pm
Or you could take a couple explosive tags, some caltrops, and a little imagination...
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:16 pm
Anonymous_Alcoholic Or you could take a couple explosive tags, some caltrops, and a little imagination... Makibishi are Japanese Caltrops. Just saying.
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