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 Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:29 pm
Taeryyn What was your intent in making this thread? You don't sound like you really want to know why people consider or attempt suicide. In fact, from your post, it sounds very much like you've already decided what their motives are and what their lives are like, and have dismissed them entirely. You know, since you've gone through bad times and haven't attempted suicide, anyone else who does is a bad/weak person, amirite? I hate it when people treat life experiences, positive or negative, like some kind of pissing contest. You don't appear to have any concept of what a mental illness is, nor do you seem to realize that attitudes like yours are one of the reasons so many people with suicidal feelings never seek help. Why would they, since people like you just tell them, essentially, to cheer up and get over it. "It's all in your head".THIS. ********. THIS. Depression is not something you can "get over". If you CAN get over it, then you're not really depressed. Invalidation is very unhealthy, especially for someone who is experiencing suicidal thoughts. You can't just tell them that their problems don't matter and they shouldn't be thinking that. Doesn't mean you should help them commit suicide or shouldn't stop them from committing suicide. Just means that you should at least empathise with their problems instead of dismissing them completely.
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:30 am
She Promised You Cookies THIS. ********. THIS. Depression is not something you can "get over". If you CAN get over it, then you're not really depressed. Invalidation is very unhealthy, especially for someone who is experiencing suicidal thoughts. You can't just tell them that their problems don't matter and they shouldn't be thinking that. Doesn't mean you should help them commit suicide or shouldn't stop them from committing suicide. Just means that you should at least empathise with their problems instead of dismissing them completely.
The OP clearly has no idea how depression as a disease works. Nor will he listen to reason.
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:46 pm
public guild = open to public = people not in guild can comment. (: TEHEHEHEHHE.
when first considered suicide was when someone didn't want to be with me.. sweatdrop
later on it became the case that i wasn't important to anyone and that being here on earth didn't mean anything, meaning i couldn't see why i was alive and i couldn't see what was the point of now and the future. (:
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:53 pm
I'm Bipolar so that includes suicidal thoughts..
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:12 pm
Dusty-Boy So I've decided to write this, this is a little thread to simply ask "Why" give me a good reason. The reason why is not to say "It get's better" it's to get you to understand that it's not that bad. I'm going through hell right now personally, and my only real means to escape it is to risk going to the hell of war... being 20 and in the debt cycle sucks balls. but i don't sit down and cry, I just look to fix it. Life isn't bad unless you keep going in those bad areas and let yourself succumb to them. much of your depression is an illusion that has been brought on you by fixating on something you had to come to terms with. something that isn't good or bad, it just is. But you are told it's bad by those who can't even do basic empathizing. ******** them, really. Do they matter? no. You just move on forward through life, get a job, get a degree, get a career. Get a lover, get a spouse, get a ******** house. Don't get a razor or a pill, and don't touch that gun if it's not for protection, sport. or hunting. Because that one pull of the trigger changes who the bad guys are. Because if you really want people to look at you rightly, and to remember you, or not hate you, you'll just keep walking. And if you think you are s**t, think of all the people you leave behind crying, that's the definition of a bad person. Be like me, be like countless others in all aspects of life, be them gay or straight, black or white, or just have some other issue. most people have bad patches in their lives, if you can get through this with a lesson in hand then you are all great. if people hate you for who you are... then what do they matter. if they physically attempt to bring harm to you, then fight them off and bring it up to someone. because ******** them, they aren't worth anything to anyone but trouble. just keep moving, keep going towards the future and loving the present. If something occurs that isn't quite so pleasant, then walk away. Someone sideswiped me yesterday on my way to class. I shook hands with her and we went our separate ways. someone told me i'll never be an officer, I told him "You probably wont see, but I don't really give a damned what you think" make yourself happy, don't do things that will intentionally bring negative things on others... just do what you want to be happy and have only restrictions based on your own morality. Be smart, not emotional. be free I have in fact thought about it and its about the easiest thing to do, the thing is you have to think about friends family others who would probably live in hell without you. The one who saved me was my best friend (: When my life took a turn for the worst she showed me gaia where i met tons of people who like me for who i am not for what i look like or how i dress they like me for me. If you were unhappy constantly to the point where you couldnt even stand your self you'd wanna be happy too wouldn't you? Thats thier escape. Thier happy place. Eternal Sleep.
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:48 pm
Dusty-Boy Lady Kayura Dusty-Boy so i'll talk to you all tomorrow night, simply because I do have a lot to say
Does any of it have to do with facts? Because if not, I don't care to hear any bullshit..... This is an argument revolving around psychology... something that was founded by philosophers and is still a philosophically charged topic (Not saying there is no science, hell it's mostly science but science bounced off of idealism from time to time) This is essentially the most debatable field known to man. As to everyone else, Let's keep this a debate and not a flame war, I was just trying to speak my mind, I wasn't trying to call people names or anything. This shouldn't be greeted with hatred. ok you can go to hell, i have severe depression, why dont you try living a year in our ******** shoes, maybe then you would learn that ur wrong, so shut the hell up until you have something worth our time
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:02 pm
"HAMLET: To be, or not to be--that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And by opposing end them. To die, to sleep--
No more--and by a sleep to say we end
The heartache, and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to. 'Tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished. To die, to sleep--
To sleep--perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub,
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause. There's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life.
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
Th' oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office, and the spurns
That patient merit of th' unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? Who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscovered country, from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will,
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all,
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprise of great pitch and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry
And lose the name of action. -- Soft you now,
The fair Ophelia! -- Nymph, in thy orisons
Be all my sins remembered."
Nuff said.
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:11 am
Nerdodactyl "HAMLET: To be, or not to be--that is the question: Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune Or to take arms against a sea of troubles And by opposing end them. To die, to sleep-- No more--and by a sleep to say we end The heartache, and the thousand natural shocks That flesh is heir to. 'Tis a consummation Devoutly to be wished. To die, to sleep-- To sleep--perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub, For in that sleep of death what dreams may come When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, Must give us pause. There's the respect That makes calamity of so long life. For who would bear the whips and scorns of time, Th' oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely The pangs of despised love, the law's delay, The insolence of office, and the spurns That patient merit of th' unworthy takes, When he himself might his quietus make With a bare bodkin? Who would fardels bear, To grunt and sweat under a weary life, But that the dread of something after death, The undiscovered country, from whose bourn No traveller returns, puzzles the will, And makes us rather bear those ills we have Than fly to others that we know not of? Thus conscience does make cowards of us all, And thus the native hue of resolution Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought, And enterprise of great pitch and moment With this regard their currents turn awry And lose the name of action. -- Soft you now, The fair Ophelia! -- Nymph, in thy orisons Be all my sins remembered." Nuff said. i agree smile
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:14 pm
I've been raped several times....
And by guys (eww) crying
So like everytime it happened i would think of suicide or go emo again emo
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:34 am
I wanted to kill myself because after my parents split my sister sead its all my fault.. that if i was not a little "fagget" they would still be together... people at school ridiculed me... life just suckled alot... but now I'm 18 and away from all that hate and drama, or so i think anyways... i still cry, thinking its still all my fault.. thinking maybe the world would be better off without me..
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:36 am
Your Emo Piece Of Bacon I've been raped several times.... And by guys (eww) crying So like everytime it happened i would think of suicide or go emo again emo I know the fealing.. i was raped at the age of 9 by my so called best friend.. he held me down and... yah...... he was 15 so i couldent fight him...
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:28 pm
Me? What makes me think of it?
Guilt. Built up sadness I couldn't ever rid myself of. Most recently, giving up a person who truly made me happy to save another friend's life.
All the fights that have happened because of my dad, him never being home, never taking part of my life. Except when its screwed up royally.
No one caring enough to try and see past my smiling face and happy demeanor, except the girl I betrayed so horribly.
My sisters, heck, almost everyone pointing out flaws about me and not strengths. Being the emotional support pillar of my friends, even when I couldn't deal myself all that well.....
A lot adds up after years.
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:49 pm
Right. So, the next time my mother is going through a breakdown because of her depression, I'll just tell her to 'get over it.' I'm sure it's just THAT simple. :l Thank you for being an ever guiding light about the issue. Really.
So, sarcasm aside, I've known quite a number of people who suffer from depression, both from friends as well as in my family. It's not as easy as simply getting over it. If it was, I wouldn't have had to spend the majority of my grade 9 year trying to convince my mother that she wasn't a useless person and a s**t-mom, or trying to keep one of my best friends from cutting herself. Educate yourself on the damn matter before you start telling people that their condition is nothing.
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:05 pm
I have wanted to kill myself so many time because so many people have been downers on me ..... When I first came out as a bisexual girl and I kissed a girl who told me she like liked me I was so happy but later that day the girl literally took different colored paint and rainbowfiyed me .... the next thing she did was the worst thing ever She said this to me ... "GO MARCH LESBO !!! " I wanted to kill myself 900 times in a row and go to hell for it .... I felt like I deserved death because this one girl made me smile and then cry ... Not to mention I have an extreme depression problem a mother who tried to leave me at a week old and had to have my father force her to care for me other wise I was neglected.... Plus my engagement got called off... And hmm lets see Almost all my friends hate me because I am bi polar and skitiziprenic !!!!! sigh when will the hate end...... Plus I lost my mother to a rich man.....
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:27 pm
What makes me suicidal?
Causing a friend to leave the one he loved....Losing my boyfriend due to him being murdered....Losing so many loved ones....My family always fighting....My anxiety....My depression...Lots of things make me suicidal but I promised a friend I wouldnt kill myself....im trying hard to keep that promise but it isnt working well....all the time i feel like im a worthless waste of time and that nobody should care about me....i barely have any friends...i dont feel like i deserve to live if i cause so many problems for the ones i love...im only 13 n i have all of this s**t weighing down on me....it eats away at me and i feel even more worthless and useless everyday...i cry myself to sleep a lot...i hate my life...that's why im suicidal....
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