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 Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:18 am
Collowrath They're something between what Americans would call vampires and what they would call werewolves. Bloated corpses who come out of their graves at night and feast upon the blood/flesh of the living. They can take the form of animals in a distorted, grotesque manner. Given the romanticization (is that a word? ETA: nvm, it's in MW, Firefox just doesn't recognise it I guess) of both vampires and werewolves in pop culture, I'm not sure most Americans would recognise those as either. Maybe zombies, aside from the shapeshifting bit.
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:26 am
Lance Kisgyr I have weird dreams. The most recently one I just got before waking involved me walking about with another individual, as if in search of something, then I ran into a wall. It was massive, tall as the eye could see, wider than the circumference of the earth itself. It was impassable, and IIRC, on fire. What it was made of, I couldn't tell you. I was walking behind this individual, following them, and for the life of me I cannot remember their face, clothing, or manner. The last thing I remember before being almost jolted awake was the feeling of "this is not your path". What paths are you on, and who started you down them?
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:37 am
guardian_rose There is a book... you might be able to find it at Barnes and Nobles or amazon.com called The Vampire Hunter's Guide. It has detailed information on various types of vampires and vampire like creatures from mythologies the world over. Also, there was a book published in the late 80s early 90s dealing with vampire lore, both vampires of hollywood and that of local mythos titled the necronomicon. I haven't read it in years, so I can't definitely say if it will help to much. I've actually read it in a Barnes & Noble. It was a fun little book. smile As far as the vlkolak goes though, Tea is right - you can't really separate it from the cultural mythos, especially because Westerners have a way of equating foreign things with things they're familiar with, even if it's not a good match. There are ways to take care of a vlkolak that would be inappropriate or meaningless to a Western vampire, but incredibly effective at scaring off vlkolaci. =D Calixti Collowrath They're something between what Americans would call vampires and what they would call werewolves. Bloated corpses who come out of their graves at night and feast upon the blood/flesh of the living. They can take the form of animals in a distorted, grotesque manner. Given the romanticization (is that a word? ETA: nvm, it's in MW, Firefox just doesn't recognise it I guess) of both vampires and werewolves in pop culture, I'm not sure most Americans would recognise those as either. Maybe zombies, aside from the shapeshifting bit. Heh, it's one of those linguistic hangups. Neither word is really appropriate, and zombies aren't quite the same thing either. It's probably just better to use the native name and provide a description rather than rely on inadequate English terms.
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:02 am
Ahhh! Ok. Now what Tea was getting at makes a bit more sense.
@Tea: What you were saying before in your post didn't come across as clearly to me until Collowrath put it another way. Sorry about the misunderstanding in my last post.
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:57 pm
Lost things are hard to find, especially if you know where to look.
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:59 pm
guardian_rose So to be clear, because they are books printed in western society, they have absolutely no relevance to the topic at hand? Nope. It's because Western Society has a habit of bastardizing other cultures, watering down and distorting key concepts in order to make it easier for the uneducated populace to follow it rather than instructing in a context specific way. Quote: Also have you even read the books, Tea? Yep. I was completely unimpressed from a scholastic perspective. Quote: The Vampire Hunter's Guide is a fairly decent book. It even has a bibliography, that, if you doubt what is in the book, you can double check yourself. Silver Ravenwolf has a bibliography. That doesn't mean it is a quality source text. It's Culture Rapetastic!
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:16 pm
The womb of a generation before you birthed me Woman.
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:46 pm
Most religions are fundamentally the same. One exception is the Church of Satan.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:10 am
guardian_rose Most religions are fundamentally the same. Hasty Generalization. Most Religions have superficial similarities.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:36 pm
I'm starting to doubt whether or not I need this in my life, and it seems I need to do a lot of thinking and searching to find the answers I seek.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:56 pm
Lance Kisgyr I'm starting to doubt whether or not I need this in my life, and it seems I need to do a lot of thinking and searching to find the answers I seek. Oh?
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:06 pm
TeaDidikai Lance Kisgyr I'm starting to doubt whether or not I need this in my life, and it seems I need to do a lot of thinking and searching to find the answers I seek. Oh?
Yeah. I seem to have a knack for doubting spiritual and religious pursuits.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:10 pm
Lance Kisgyr TeaDidikai Lance Kisgyr I'm starting to doubt whether or not I need this in my life, and it seems I need to do a lot of thinking and searching to find the answers I seek. Oh? Yeah. I seem to have a knack for doubting spiritual and religious pursuits. I find that to be fairly healthy myself.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:12 pm
TeaDidikai guardian_rose Most religions are fundamentally the same. Hasty Generalization. Most Religions have superficial similarities. I don't really believe that core themes such as love and peace amongst fellow man is a hasty generalization. Nor are they superficial.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:20 pm
guardian_rose TeaDidikai guardian_rose Most religions are fundamentally the same. Hasty Generalization. Most Religions have superficial similarities. I don't really believe that core themes such as love and peace amongst fellow man is a hasty generalization. Nor are they superficial. And if I could name more than three religions that hold those as core ideals, you might have an argument. (Note, that it is quite likely that these perpetuated each other.) For example, my religion has nothing to say about love and peace amongst "fellow man". Come to think of it, the Havamal is pretty direct in stating that Love and Peace are to be trusted as far as you can throw them, because if you misplace it, that guy lurking in the hall is going to stab you in the back. (Oh s**t, I missed the Ba'hai and the Jains- okay, Five come to mind...) So, have at it. Demonstrate that 51% of the world religions have "Love and Peace" as core themes.
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