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 Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:25 pm
wow, i couldn't even read all of that, it made my brain cells commit suicide burning_eyes
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:36 am
Trying to help my fiancee find a neo-pagan group nearby where we live. Are there any Neo-Pagan organizations or groups in the Urbana-Champaign area?
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:51 am
rmcdra Trying to help my fiancee find a neo-pagan group nearby where we live. Are there any Neo-Pagan organizations or groups in the Urbana-Champaign area? I think so, but I don't know them offhand. I'll look when I get home. Also, I'm only 45 minutes away *tempts*
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:58 am
maenad nuri rmcdra Trying to help my fiancee find a neo-pagan group nearby where we live. Are there any Neo-Pagan organizations or groups in the Urbana-Champaign area? I think so, but I don't know them offhand. I'll look when I get home. Also, I'm only 45 minutes away *tempts* I'll suggest it to her. Finances are tight right now so she might only be able to go once a month we I was to drive her out to your area. Something close by to us would be more feasible right now though.
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:07 am
Is there a verb in Hebrew refering to marriage?
There's this guy running around M&R who's spewing a whole bunch of what seems like bullshit, nevermind that his user name is "G~ Will"
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:26 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:30 pm
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:44 am
Had a question about the concept of Unverified Personal Gnosis, as related to the discovery or revelation of a tradition, but... it's not really thread material, so, thought I'd post it here.
I'm aware that intellectual honesty is an important concern. I would assume that legality and general morality come into the equation, as well.
Those important matters aside... are there guidelines or measures that determine where woolgathering ends and gnosis begins?
I ask this only because I've had an idea about... the nature of time, timelines, personality, etc. that has come and gone over the past several years, but it hasn't really been associated with any major emotional or intellectual trends in my life, that I've noticed. It doesn't even seem to be associated with meditation of any sort. It just kind of kicks down the door to my brain and marches in unannounced, to parade around for a month or two, and then retreat back into... wherever it came from. I know that sounds silly, but that's the closest I can get to an image that compares to the feeling.
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:55 am
It doesn't sound silly, but I'm not quite clear where the concept of UPG comes in to the concept at hand.
In general, UPG, Ethics and Intellectual Honesty comes in when you start checking the UPG for internal consistency, being thoughtful of other people and when possible, shifting the concept from UPG to CG, or Confirmed Gnosis.
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:09 am
I guess that I completely misunderstood the term, then. whee Thanks.
My haste probably arose from the fact that, well... the idea kind of irritates me. Not the concept, you understand, but the way it thunders around and demands my partial attention for extended periods. I kind of want to either make use of it, or find justification to dismiss it.
The Readers' Digest version of the concept is this: any given instant is the intersection of an infinite number of possible timelines. Infinity x 2, really. An infinite number leading up to the instant, and an infinite number branching off into their respective futures. My ex used to call it the "Tree of Time," when she thought I wasn't listening. I actually kind of like that imagery.
Though, now that I re-read it, it sounds more like fodder for bad sci-fi than anything else.
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:26 am
Ultramarine Violet I guess that I completely misunderstood the term, then. whee Thanks. My haste probably arose from the fact that, well... the idea kind of irritates me. Not the concept, you understand, but the way it thunders around and demands my partial attention for extended periods. I kind of want to either make use of it, or find justification to dismiss it. The Readers' Digest version of the concept is this: any given instant is the intersection of an infinite number of possible timelines. Infinity x 2, really. An infinite number leading up to the instant, and an infinite number branching off into their respective futures. My ex used to call it the "Tree of Time," when she thought I wasn't listening. I actually kind of like that imagery. Though, now that I re-read it, it sounds more like fodder for bad sci-fi than anything else. Reminds me of "Understanding the Ten Dimensions" or some such thing Hubby told me about. Maybe your UPG has some Common Gnosis to it.
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:48 am
Since I'm not going to remember this by the time I see my prof again on Thursday, felt this was the place for it.
It occurred to me while studying for my exam on Hinduism last week: what's the point in achieving moksha when the world is just going to start over and we're going to all start from the beginning again at some point? Is my memory of Vishnu's last incarnation faulty (we didn't go over it this class, it's something I think I may remember from 9 years ago...)? Do those who reach moksha start as something higher when the world is recreated?
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:33 am
Ultramarine Violet The Readers' Digest version of the concept is this: any given instant is the intersection of an infinite number of possible timelines. Infinity x 2, really. An infinite number leading up to the instant, and an infinite number branching off into their respective futures. My ex used to call it the "Tree of Time," when she thought I wasn't listening. I actually kind of like that imagery. The problem with the definitions is there is only a finite amount of possibilities. Time is finite there has only been so much and will only be so much unless it turns inward to form a loop. The number of possibilities may seem limitless, but there are definite limits. Try to think of an instant more like a tree with little hole in a tiny tunk. The tree's branches and roots both extend equidistant and multiply far beyond your visible range. At no other point other than the hole you are in are the options so small as to where you could be. Where you could have came from and where you could go are all visible to you, but your place is where you are at right now in the center. As you climb up or down the tree when you stop you are always at that same exact position on that tree, because every time you move you restrict the possible number of new possibilities that branch forward and you create a finite number of causes as to the reason you are at your point.
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:49 am
bondage bunnie The problem with the definitions is there is only a finite amount of possibilities. Time is finite there has only been so much and will only be so much unless it turns inward to form a loop. The number of possibilities may seem limitless, but there are definite limits. Try to think of an instant more like a tree with little hole in a tiny tunk. The tree's branches and roots both extend equidistant and multiply far beyond your visible range. At no other point other than the hole you are in are the options so small as to where you could be. Where you could have came from and where you could go are all visible to you, but your place is where you are at right now in the center. As you climb up or down the tree when you stop you are always at that same exact position on that tree, because every time you move you restrict the possible number of new possibilities that branch forward and you create a finite number of causes as to the reason you are at your point. What are these definite limits? I am fond of the tree, however, are there any... variables, which would not have effect upon one's placement? Situations or casual lines where an event is deviant, but leads to the same point?
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:37 am
bondage bunnie The problem with the definitions is there is only a finite amount of possibilities. What basis do you have for claiming this? Quote: Time is finite there has only been so much and will only be so much unless it turns inward to form a loop. If you're basing this on the Big Bang's shutter effect (closing off viewing anything before it) then you don't understand the shutter effect. It does not claim that time started with the Big Bang. We don't know that at all. Quote: The number of possibilities may seem limitless, but there are definite limits. By what basis do you claim definite limits?
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