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New rant. Besides the fact that we keep getting called anti-choice (which just looses my respect for them each time someone says it), something else has been bothering.

How come the assume that we don't care about health? I care about health as I know what it's like to go through health problems. How can they say we don't care about health or people when they don't know us?

I don't have a job but my family gives to people in need, so they can't say we don't.

Also, many of here work or planning on work in the medical field (Why would I plan to work in the medical field if I didn't care?).

Not supporting abortion (expect for a few cases. Well I find it acceptable in life and death situations) doesn't equal not caring about women or health and they need to get it through their heads.

I notice something as well. Though we may disagree to somethings, our guild opens up to pro-choicers and allow them to post in one of the forums, while their guild doesn't even try (usually just bashing and a bunch of other crap that either makes me want to bang my head on the table, slap someone, or question if they ever took biology).

Long rant, but some of the pro-choicers make it really hard to talk to them or respect them.

Basically, I just got annoyed about what some people be writing (this came from their view of the whole gift card thing).

Normally, I'm a calm debater, but because this is a rant, this is where my passionate side comes out. It's time for some good old-fashioned straight talk.
Okay, here I go:

Here's the list of pro-choice arguments and my response to them:

1: Every woman should have a choice. (Here's another one I've heard: "Abortion is wrong, but every woman should have a choose.")

Response: The pro-choice movement gives the woman only one choice: Death. Why should murder be an alternative? How about giving the child to a sterile couple? Abortion is a sign of desperation, not freedom of choice. We pro-lifers encourage adoption.
Then there's the pro-choicers who, "try to discourage abortion". Or "abortion is wrong, but every woman should have a choice" Hey, genius, it doesn't matter if you "try" to discourage it or you believe it's wrong, but every chick should have a choice. You're pro-choice, whether you want to admit it or not.

2: Rape victims shouldn't have to bear their attackers' babies.

Response: Since when did we start protecting scumbag rapists? Killing an innocent baby doesn't unrape the woman. In fact, it puts her at the same level of the rapist and it looks like she's hiding evidence. If she bears the child, investigators could do a DNA test, find the rapist and bring him to justice. Rapists and ***** use secret abortions to cover up their crimes. We should be punishing rapists and *****, not killing babies.

3: Back-alley abortions

Response: Women have died from the "safe, legal" abortions, but the pro-choicers never talk about them because they know it'll hurt their cause. The origin of Prop 4, Sarah's Law was a fifteen-year-old girl named Sarah had a secret "safe, legal" abortion and because of a torn cervix, she died. Doctors said had her parents known, Sarah would still be alive. So, take that, pro-choicers.

4: Banning abortion would be a dictatorship (I'm not kidding. This is an
actual argument)

Response: I didn't know protecting childrens' lives was a dictatorship. Why don't we just kill all children because apparently a child's life is so oppressive. Why don't we just legalize murder if killing an unborn baby is perfectly fine.

5: Crime and child abuse prevention
Response: Isn’t barbarically murdering a child considered child abuse?

6: Health of the mother

Response: The health of the mother thing has been overally used by pro-choicers. There was a woman named Gianna Molla. Mrs. Molla was pregnant, but she was told by her doctor that if she had this baby, she would die. She thought and she thought and guess what? She chose life. She died giving birth to the baby, but she's a Saint now. Saint Gianna Molla.
Another defender of life, whose one of my heroes is Sarah Palin. Most women would abort their down-syndrome baby, but Sarah Palin chose life and gave birth to baby Trig. Even though she's not Catholic, most Catholics love her for choosing life.

7: Overpopulation

Response: Are you freaking kidding me? Overpopulation has been an issue for years and yet we haven't run out of food yet. The earth hasn't turned upside down, causing everybody to fall into outer space.

8: The father shouldn't tell the mother what to do with her body

Response: I'm one of those people who when I see a commercial that has a single mom and a little boy, my question is, "Where's the father? Not every mother is single." For this argument, my question is, "What about the father?" Just because he's never been pregnant doesn't mean he shouldn't have a say in it. I know that if my mom had an abortion, my dad would be devastated. My mom never would because she's very pro-life, but my point is the pro-choice movement is a very self-centered movement. The father has every right to know about the baby.

9: Government shouldn't tell a woman what to do with her body

Response: And yet many pro-choice organizations support countries that force women to have abortions, whether they want to or not. They should government funding for abortions. So much for that argument.

10: Women shouldn't have to have babies

Response: When did reproduction become a crime?

11: Unwanted children (I hate this argument with a passion)

Response: The pro-choicers say, "Don't impose your religious beliefs on me!" Hey, pro-choicers, don't impose your child-hating beliefs on a precious baby. Who are you to decide if a child is unwanted or wanted? Who are you to decide a child's fate? The pro-choicers aren't God, so they have absolutely no right to choose who lives and who dies.

12: Ban on pictures of aborted babies

Response: Sorry, pro-choicers. You gotta face the music someday. This is what your cause is doing. These are the victims of choice. If you don't to see pictures, you should've thought of that before you became pro-choice.

13: Women's Rights

Response: If abortion is so empowering, why do millions of women suffer from post-abortion syndrome, depression and sometimes commit suicide?

That is all I have to say! Thank you!

Common sense.
Don't leave home without it.

I honestly don't get how people can choose to end a life of the unborn or how that's even a choice. Life and death situations are one thing but many don't do it because they were in danger.

I also don't get how people say the mother is being punished with a baby but the people don't see abortion as a punishment for the unborn? It's basically sentencing it to death, and for what?

Do people not know about adoption? Abortion seems like the only choice that they talk about and give info (I even seen them give tips to others on how to do it yourself, sick right? Not to mention dangerous).

I have never, ever, understood the people who say that abortion is about women's health. ...Pro-Lifers almost unanimously support abortions if the mother's life is at risk. And most Pro-Lifers support abortions if the mother's health is at serious risk. So what's their point?

It's like the choicers who bring up rape when we're discussing abortion. Usually this is after someone has been making the argument that you consented to pregnancy when you had sex, a Pro-Choicer will say, "Well what if they were raped then?" And it's like, first of all, the percentage of abortions that are because of rape are tiny. Second, many Pro-Lifers support abortion in the case of rape. So what is your point, exactly? Are you agreeing that it is wrong to get an abortion if you consented to the sex, and, by proxy, the possibility of pregnancy? Then you're Pro-Life, and we can argue about rape babies later.

Guess what? Pro-lifers are now the reason why women go through post-abortion depression.

I read that somewhere and can't help but say once again "wtf". All complications and problems is our fault now.

I heardly see any facts on that supports what they say.

Technically, logic doesn't require reasoning. You could say that killing humans is objectively wrong. Abortion is killing a human, therefore it is wrong. That's logically valid. They may disagree with your reasoning in objective morality, but that does not take away the logical value.