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 Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:59 pm
Wow, I was under the impression you don't have to pay much for European schools. I guess that's just France.
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:58 am
Hahaha, yes we attend college at 16 and then if we manage to, we get the grades for University. It currently stands at £3,200 (something like that) per year, usually for three years. In total it is about £6,000 you borrow off the government per year. It isn't that bad considering.
Wow in America it is 100k in debt?! That is horrible!
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DesertRoseFallen Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:48 am
Well, it costs me roughly $30k for one full year, but then I get about 10k in grants. The rest comes in loans, because I'm supposed to get fully funded, but I avoid the private loans. I probably pay about 5-7k out of pocket a year. Add to that the fact that I switched majors, picked up a minor, and am trying for a GIS Applications Certificate, and yeah, I'm spending a lot.
But I love my school, and I love what I'm doing. So in the end, it's worth it to me. biggrin
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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:15 am
Well it really depends on the school. Brown University, which is an Ivy Leave school, cost somehwere around 50,000 (including room and board) a year. I got accepted into four colleges, 2 which are public state schools. The one that's closer is a few thousands cheaper, but if money is a probelm most of my friends go there beause they also don't have to pay 10,000 in room and board. So at my school I pay about 10,000 for tutition and then antoher 10,000 for room and board. Plus you have to pay for extras like credit hours and books.
The otehr two schools I got accepted into here private colleges, which were both bout 40,000 a year (including room and board). I actually got a 15,000 scholarship for one of them and it was still a few thousand more than my University. Granted money is why I choose my school, but it can get really expensive.
By the way, some people get free rides. Both of my friends that are going to Brown are going on full scholarships. Private Universitys are more likely to work with you and give you more add. I'm sure if we told that one school that gave me 15,000 that I needed more they'd give me a whole lot more. My friend only got about 5,000 for that same school orininally and now she's got about half paid.
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DesertRoseFallen Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:47 am
Wow-o-wow. I feel so lucky I live in England! However, when it converts to pounds its a lot easier for me to understand. I say $50,000 is £32,430ish, which is hell of an expense! $100,000 is £64,870!
We don't major or minor here so yeah...haha.
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:42 am
So how do you choose your courses and get a degree? Sorry, I have no idea how the university's there work.
In case you don't know here in America whatever you major in is what your degree is in. Like if I was to major in English I would have a English degree. If I got a teaching certificate in addition to that I could teach English, but really a degree usually isn't the end all be all unless you are going to be a doctor or engineer, etc.
Minors are just some classes we take. You take a lot less of them than your major and you don't even have to choose a minor. Most people who double major don't take a minor.
Most majors are about 30 credits (1 credit equals 1 hour in class, usually) and most minors equal about 18 credits. You have classes for you major, your gen eds (a selection of classes everyone needs to take), and electives.
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DesertRoseFallen Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:27 am
Ah well here is how we work:
We finish high school at 16 with GCSE's in almost every subject. Two years before we leave, we narrow down all but the key subjects into four choices. We have to keep English, Science, Maths etc but we get to chose to carry on drama, geography, history etc or drop them.
Next is college or sixth form. Here we study A Levels. Sometimes you can get into an A Level subject without having taken the GCSE. We pick four or five subjects during the first year which is the AS year. The two years is split into AS and then A2.
We take the subjects, they can be any subject that is avaliable. They are seperate and all of equal value. Then if we pass (an E or above) then we get to take that subject to A2 level, which completes the whole A Level.
Our grading system: U = fail, E=just passed, D, C, B, A and the recently avaliable A*. Right...we get the full A Level if we pass both the AS and A2.
Now onto University. Again, sometimes you can enter a Uni course without having taken the A Level. Such as me, who studies English Language but got into an English Literature Uni course. However, almost all courses you have to have the points and the grade.
Now onto the grading system points: A*=140 points, A=120, B=100, C=80, D=60, E=40, U=nothing.
Universities require points and grades. The top Uni's usually require A*AA or something along those lines, but the other Uni's pick whatever grades they want for entries. Then you need to get the grades haha.
Hope this all made sense!
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:53 am
KaNugget Most majors are about 30 credits (1 credit equals 1 hour in class, usually) Most majors at my school are 50ish credits. Mine is 48 credits. Most classes there are three credits. Then there's the occasional four credit class (usually the science classes; three for the lecture, one for the lab) and the six credit application class (which is a double-length class twice a week). My major also requires a summer field school. But a 48-credit major is much better than the 70-something you need to be a music ed major. Desert: So, how does your public education system work? Like, we start when we're 5 or six in kindergarten and go through grades 1-12 before we graduate, so we're 17-18 when we graduate. Do you have fewer "grades" to go through since you graduate at 16? Or is college/sixth form kind of like the last few years of high school for us? Which I guess would then make university around the same level as college for us here (since the only real difference between college and university here is reputability). I must admit, I'm fascinated by this. biggrin
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DesertRoseFallen Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:24 pm
Hmmm okay let explain the grades.
We go from Year 1-11 through standard school all compulsory. We finish at age 16 so we begin at age 5.
Reception, age 4 to 5
Key Stage 1 (in an Infant or Primary school)
Year 1, age 5 to 6
Year 2, age 6 to 7
Key Stage 2 (in Junior or Primary school)
Year 3, age 7 to 8
Year 4, age 8 to 9
Year 5, age 9 to 10
Year 6, age 10 to 11
Year 7 -12
Year 8 -13
Year 9 - 14
Year 10 - 15
Year 11 - 16
Then we decide if we want to go to college and study A Levels for two years but this is all entirely up to us.
Then yes, University at 18.
This is very intruiging. You look like you have some sort of point system to yours...
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:36 pm
I don't think there's much of a point to the credits aside from determining what your status is. Freshman have between 0 and 24 credits, sophomores up to 53, Juniors 54 to probably 75ish, and Seniors are above that.
Also, the amount of credits we have determines when you get to sign up for your classes. The more credits you have, the sooner you can register for classes. Mind you, this is at my school--I can't say if its universal for all American schools.
But I think they assign credits depending on the subject matter covered in class. Like I said, most lectures are 3 credit classes. If you add a lab, it's a four credit class. The 6 credit class I'm taking is a combined lecture lab that meets twice a week for twice the length of a regular class. More time/work, more credits.
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:00 pm
At one of the colleges I almost went to having more credits got your priority on rooms. At my school Sr. gets first priority to choose classes, then Jr., Sophomore, Freshman. A full time student takes bettwen 12-18 credits a semester. Yeah every school is different.
When I get the paper that has all of the requirnments (it's at home and I'm still on vacation) I'll let you know what my school requires, I don't know about requirments for my major, though, because I haven't picked mine yet.
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:39 am
Ahhh, when I used to read American teen fiction horror, I never used to get the whole sophomore and freshman status'. We have Freshmen in the first year of Uni?
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DesertRoseFallen Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:00 pm
Status has four levels, and it carries through into college/university.
Grade 9 -- Freshman -- First Year
Grade 10 -- Sophomore -- Second Year
Grade 11 -- Junior -- Third Year
Grade 12 -- Senior -- Fourth Year
Fifth year and up is usually referred to as a super senior in high school. In college, its just a fifth year.
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:34 pm
Yeah, if you are in grad school you are just called a graduate. Then you can go get your Phd after that. And that at that point you are allow to stop school (but most people crazy enough to get a degree that high are in professions that are ever changing and take classes until retirement.
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DesertRoseFallen Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:30 am
Ah that is much easier to understand. Cor, staying in compulsory education until 18...haha. I think that is going to happen here in the next few years, it is undecided.
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