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Bully for you, I hated it. stare

I'm sorry.

Would you prefer some one-sentence descriptions?

Barthavos: There is a lot of sand here.

Latent: Many houses here. Maybe some water.

As for the navigating issue, Ben's working on updating the world compass linking guide, and I've been trying to get some one to do a proper map.

Ok, Ed? I do very much appreciate everything you've done in creating a very wonderful world and detail to every location we have here. I really do, it's ******** amazing. But dude, it IS like a bloody maze. I STILL get lost when looking for some thread. ME. I own the damned place and I get lost sometimes. Imagine how someone who's used to guilds with 5-10 RP threads that are all in one subforum feels when they show up here and we have 20+ with 5 forums for roleplaying ALONE. It is confusing. We need to find a way to make it somehow less complicated... if only Gaia allowed Sub-sub forums, that'd work...

Truthfully I never found navigation all that hard, sure maybe once and a while I'll click the wrong link, but I hit the back button and go to where I wanted to go.

As long as you know what you're looking for then navigation is fairly simple, even if you don't know where everything is. And when in doubt ask around.

So the problem isn't so much navigation since anyone new wouldn't know what each thread is to begin with but how people treat them when they ask questions.

New people come in, instinctively they do not know the lay out. Demanding for new people not be lost upon entering into a new guild is absurd.

Focus on the battles that are possible. Such as seeing to it that new people are welcome.

I know that I'm an a** hole; but then I'm a firm believer in learning by trial and error. And no one is going to improve unless errors are pointed out. Sure this doesn't mean that people have the right to out right flame someone for a stupid mistake; but then this is a guild built around a fighting arena. A thick skin is usually desired for such an environment.

Now a map, an actual map with locations marked instead of a thumb sketch, though the sketch worked for the guild before the layout of the guild has changed from then, and there are quite a few more threads than before. That would make the guild navigation alot easier for anybody, not just the lazy kids. You'd know what was where in relation to everything else.

I don't know about the whole welcoming deal, but most people intent on role playing would get over the unique brand of humor present in Leviathan.

Cause there are a few people that have come in since i got here that were here a day and when i next saw them fit in like they'd been there forever.

This guild is always a little better to come into with friends, or a friend at least to show them the ropes, or soften the impact of entrance a little.

tenma> for the umpteenth time, we're looking for a cartographer/working on a map [sierra's doing things]. stop mentioning the map if you don't know a cartographer. i will personally sit down in ZA WARUDO and list the places in their reigon with links before the map is completed, if it keeps y'all from mentioning the map again. try again in a week if we still have no progress on it.

-checks- owait vahn did it already. so, i don't know what more you could want, without the pictures.

also, define thumb sketch.

nilly> trial by error, yes. take the bumps and stand up again.

enki>sub-sub forums? you and sierra are saying that people are having a hard time navigating the sub forums. why would you want to add another layer of insanity?

map on the main page without links is what i was thinking, but then what's the point? if not done correctly, it can be just a pretty picture with no context. i think that when we get this cartography and surveying done, we'll be fine.