I like the theory that Soubi is actually Loveless. It doesn't make sense that Seimei and Soubi would have their names on different parts of their bodies, while it is emphisized on so many occasions that it shouldn't be, and yet they still share the same name.
And it does look like Soubi's name is carved more forcibly on his neck (And where did the scars above it come from?) than on the other Warcrafts and Sacrifices.
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:39 pm
OH MY GOD I THINK I'VE FIGGURED IT OUT eek !!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok, does anyone remeber one of the conversations Ritsu-Sensei had with Soubi... At the end Ritsu said "You think you have a master... How naive..." O.o... I know I know... Sounds verry odd. But he doesn't have a name that you can see. AND he's obviously a fighter/sacrifice since he teaches all these things to evryone right? Just another one of my verry verry odd theories sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 11:11 am
Okay, okay... okay >3>; Sato just got done watching the last episode. So, based on that. Not the prolouge >w<; :: downloading it right now ::
I believe..
Ritsuka is the Warcraft. =) The whole part in the classroom may been just a fluke.
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But then.. Youji did some kind of spell on Sensei ;-; So.. Iunno Dx Good guess?
Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:31 pm
It believe that Ritsuka's name Loveless, one with out love, mean's that he does not have a partner. I don't think Soubi's name was carved into his neck forfully. I think he really is Seimei's partner.
So who ever said that, I agree. ^_^
I wish they would make a second season to continue and finish where the manga leaves off. =_= I also cant wait till Tokyopop releases Loveless. I really would like to read volume 3, 4, and 5.
Loveless is pretty. ~_~
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:42 pm
I think the two personality theroy was a good one.
I think Soubi is Beloved so he can be with anyone
I think Ritsuka is Loveless and has to be with himself
I think Seimei knew Ritsuka would never become the fighter if Seimei didn't "die" or something tramatic didn't happen.
I think at the end, Seimei, Soubi, and Ritsuka will have a battle to prove that. And Seimei will die because of that anyway. And Ritsuka will realize he loves Soubi. ^^
or
Seimei forced himself to be Soubi's partner and found out something important, and "died"
Just theroies, ya know. I do wonder though.
Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:16 pm
Not sure if i had posted here before or not, but if i have i have new theory's since the latest chapters have been moving along and old theory's are getting old now xd
anyways what i reckon is that we dont know his warcraft, i think i saw somebody mention that Kouga Yun is bringing in a new character.
also i reckon its not gonna be as straight forward like most pairs are, i reckon that Soubi is Ritsuka's destiend one but not his fighter.
before i dident think of it because (spoiler):Soubi's name appeared, but the last time i checked again and noticed it was on his chest, which is where i think Ritsuka's name is and i read somewhere that area means bond, whilst name means strength.
i hadent thought this before but maybe thats why Ritsu pretended not to know Ritsuka, because he likes Soubi and most proberly pretended not to know him casue he would like Soubi to himself or something.
(end of spoiler):but of course that is just a theory, i had a good theory before this one to on the chapter before this, but that seems pretty silly now that (spoiler):Nisei has shown that he is Seimei's true fighter.
things can change all the time, now that the plot is underway its not likley, but you got to keep options open, anything can happen, its not over till its over.ninja
I don't remember who it was that pointed out that Soubi is actually Beloved's warcraft, and that Loveless' warcraft could show up at sometime, but thinking about it, where and who is Ritsuka's real warcraft? Soubi is kinda like a borrowed one. I have a weird idea as to where Ristuka's warcraft is, but I wanted to know if the manga reveals this tid bit of info, and if not, what does everyone else think?
it was the zero boys it was in the episode that subie was hurt by the femal zero, so subie was asleep resting and ritska was talking to the zero boys and they pointed it out (in the anime anyway not sure about the manga)
i dont know who the warcraft is for ritska is i think he is his own warcraft, its hinted sevral times in the anime, i think
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:11 pm
Well...
I read that Soubi isnt really Seimes fighter, Siemi had requested Soubi, and he was given him. Later on the new fighter of siemes turns out to be the real "Beloved" Unit. Thats why the name is "carved" into Soubi's neck. Go on Wikiepdia and type in loveless and real under Subi, it says that. [Spolier]
I read that Soubi isnt really Seimes fighter, Siemi had requested Soubi, and he was given him. Later on the new fighter of siemes turns out to be the real "Beloved" Unit. Thats why the name is "carved" into Soubi's neck. Go on Wikiepdia and type in loveless and real under Subi, it says that. [Spolier]
I think its true.
I really do!
Its true are you trying to point out that Soubi is Ritsuka's fighter also? if so then he's not [spoiler:]he's a blank fighter.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:48 am
Well I dont know if Loveless is really Soubi....I just kmow that he
isnt Beloved. So he might just be a blank fighter
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:25 pm
Note the competition between Nagato and Ritsu. Nagato creates the Zero, painless beings. Could Soubi be Ritsu's response to the Zero series, psychologically trained to have an increased tolerance in pain, but not having his nervous network cut off in the (eventual) event he was paired out out-of-name? Why was he trained in the art of recieving pain when he was put into the role of Warcraft, as a caster of pain? I hypothesize Ritsuka is the culmanation of the Zero research. Since pairs are decided by birth, and those who aren't chosen to be in a pair end up as normal human beings, is it possible for Ritsuka to be one who had the name "Loveless" forced upon him by a spell at around the point he lost his memories? With that, as he has no pair, there is no designation of wether or not he is the Warcraft or the Sacrifice. However... who forced the spell is a new question: Seimei is known to have first told Ritsuka of his true name. But Seimei is a Sacrifice, and therefore unable to cast spells. Soubi had no contact with Ritsuka prior to Seimei's fake death. Nor could the Seven Moons have any influence.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:04 pm
No [soiler]..I read that later in in the series Ritsuka and Soubis "thread" {the thing that connects them} is servered, and that there is another string now, of Ritsuka's REAL fighter. Apparently sempital moon knows that his fighter unit is near him, possibly at his school. It turns out that Soubi is REALLY a black fighter, which is why "Beloved" was carved into him, for the name that is carved into a blank fighter is the name they can operate under. But they can only do this once. Seimei wanted Soubi, but Soubi really wanted Ritsu to be his sacrifice. Ritsu refused saying he had a fighter. Soubi went with Seimei. [end spoiler] I did my reaserch ^^
No [soiler]..I read that later in in the series Ritsuka and Soubis "thread" {the thing that connects them} is servered, and that there is another string now, of Ritsuka's REAL fighter. Apparently sempital moon knows that his fighter unit is near him, possibly at his school. It turns out that Soubi is REALLY a black fighter, which is why "Beloved" was carved into him, for the name that is carved into a blank fighter is the name they can operate under. But they can only do this once. Seimei wanted Soubi, but Soubi really wanted Ritsu to be his sacrifice. Ritsu refused saying he had a fighter. Soubi went with Seimei. [end spoiler] I did my reaserch ^^
caushty thanx for that ^^ i knew that
Soubi should still be Seimei's fighter cause he chose him back then[end of spoiler] but the rest i dident, teehee cant wait to see Ritsuka's fighter, but i must admit that its sad that
Ritsuka and Soubi are once struggling again, still you gotta admit
That Soubi's and Ritsuka's are in good terms because of their relationship.
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:44 pm
Tch. I need to read the manga, NAO.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:42 pm
I-I don't t-think h-he has one. I-isn't i-it i-impossible for someone to h-have more t-than one f-fighter unit?
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