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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:36 am
I don't remember who it was that pointed out that Soubi is actually Beloved's warcraft, and that Loveless' warcraft could show up at sometime, but thinking about it, where and who is Ritsuka's real warcraft? Soubi is kinda like a borrowed one. I have a weird idea as to where Ristuka's warcraft is, but I wanted to know if the manga reveals this tid bit of info, and if not, what does everyone else think?
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:48 am
I was thinking that it could be someone weird, like Ritsu-sensei or even Seimei o_O;. But those are just guesses. I don't know who Ritsuka's real warcraft really is...
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 4:34 pm
My friend and I have a few theories:
1. Soubi. My friend thinks that Soubi might possibly not be Beloved at all, but Loveless, because the name on his neck looks very forcibly carved. I mean, Soubi's name looks like a scar, while Yamato's and Kouya's look like drawings.
2. Nisei. Kinda fits, ne? Loveless having Beloved's Fighter and Beloved having Loveless's Fighter?
3. Ritsuka himself. I just thought that... Because of what Seimei said in that dream thing: "That was a good spell, Ritsuka." Doesn't the Fighter usually cast the spells in a "battle" of sorts (if the dream thing counts as a battle), not the Sacrifice?
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:38 pm
Arivess My friend and I have a few theories: 1. Soubi. My friend thinks that Soubi might possibly not be Beloved at all, but Loveless, because the name on his neck looks very forcibly carved. I mean, Soubi's name looks like a scar, while Yamato's and Kouya's look like drawings. *points* That's what I thought! About the name on his throat. It's also very intricate looking... doesn't that seem strange? And did you notice that whenever they showed Seimei that he had nothing on his neck? Each member of each team is supposed to have the same name on the same spot of their bodies- and Seimei didn't have 'Beloved' on his neck. That does show that Soubi could very well really be "Loveless" 3nodding .
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:18 pm
Yeah! And it's also weird that Soubi never introduced himself as "Beloved" in the anime. I _think_ he did from the manga scans, but they could just be lazy translations? Anyway, he _did_ take off the thing to show that he's Beloved, but he never called himself that.
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:27 pm
I think ritsuka is his own because his name loveless implies that he should be with out love... and he did his own spell in his daze like it was already said.
Maybe it's Yuiko. ^^
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:44 am
Flesy Meta Hiyhwa I think ritsuka is his own because his name loveless implies that he should be with out love... and he did his own spell in his daze like it was already said. Maybe it's Yuiko. ^^ I don't think it's Yuiko, but I do agree that it might be Ritsuka himself. Here's why: 1. If he had a fighter, wouldn't said fighter have shown up by now? It seems to me the warcraft and sacrifice share a special link. 2. The name Loveless implies 'one without love', and if the dream sequence is a prediction, as Seimei hinted, then it would make sense for Ritsuka to be his own warcraft. 3. His implied personality change. What if when Seimei told Ritsuka that his real name was Loveless, it triggered an awakening of sorts and awakened the fighter? 4. The mention of a word spell in the dream sequence. 5. I just fits.
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 2:47 pm
Ooh, you're right! And the fact that they say that it's almost as if there're two different personalities within Ritsuka. It could literally be the fighter and the sacrifice.
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:12 am
Exactly. His personality thing is what made me think he was both the sacrifice and the warcraft. The warcraft tends to be reclusive where as the sacrifice is more out going. Ritsuka was origianally very out going, then became reclusive. Once he makes friends with the kids at his school, he's very out going with them, but with everyone else he's reclusive.
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:57 pm
Ryoko-chan Arivess My friend and I have a few theories: 1. Soubi. My friend thinks that Soubi might possibly not be Beloved at all, but Loveless, because the name on his neck looks very forcibly carved. I mean, Soubi's name looks like a scar, while Yamato's and Kouya's look like drawings. *points* That's what I thought! About the name on his throat. It's also very intricate looking... doesn't that seem strange? And did you notice that whenever they showed Seimei that he had nothing on his neck? Each member of each team is supposed to have the same name on the same spot of their bodies- and Seimei didn't have 'Beloved' on his neck. That does show that Soubi could very well really be "Loveless" 3nodding . Well midori and ai's names looked carved in their hands also does the manga or anime ever show seimei without a turtle neck or a scarf like soubi. I don't recall any incident with seimei not having something covering his neck, but if you have a picture of his neck exposed that would be nice.
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:22 pm
About Ritsuka being his own warcraft: wow! I had never thought of that, but the way that you guys are putting it makes it seem possible. Veeery interesting... 3nodding Bondless Well midori and ai's names looked carved in their hands also does the manga or anime ever show seimei without a turtle neck or a scarf like soubi. I don't recall any incident with seimei not having something covering his neck, but if you have a picture of his neck exposed that would be nice. I don't have pictures now, but in the final episode of the anime and in episode three, they show pictures of Seimei without any covering on his neck. It's bare. I could take some screencaps though and post them up here if you're curious. (I'm not sure if it was episode three- it could've been sometime around there gonk .) And, using Midori and Ai as examples, their names weren't as intricate or scarred looking (were they o_O)? They were simply a name. Soubi's looks almost like a collar.
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:42 pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:25 pm
Ryoko-chan ...their names weren't as intricate or scarred looking (were they o_O)? They weren't. Hmm. ninja
And as for those Seimei pics - hmmm. How very suspicious. Either this is implying something...or Yun Kouga just messed up drawing Seimei. xd
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:31 pm
Incoherency Ryoko-chan ...their names weren't as intricate or scarred looking (were they o_O)? They weren't. Hmm. ninja
And as for those Seimei pics - hmmm. How very suspicious. Either this is implying something...or Yun Kouga just messed up drawing Seimei. xd Yun Kouga as stated in an interview that Seimei and Soubi's names are in different places on their body
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:09 pm
loveableneko Incoherency Ryoko-chan ...their names weren't as intricate or scarred looking (were they o_O)? They weren't. Hmm. ninja
And as for those Seimei pics - hmmm. How very suspicious. Either this is implying something...or Yun Kouga just messed up drawing Seimei. xd Yun Kouga as stated in an interview that Seimei and Soubi's names are in different places on their body So his name is most likely somewhere on his body that is covered..right? Like on his back, or possibly his shoulder or a leg. -shrugs-
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