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 Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:41 am
i had a chemical imbalance i set my school onfire come ot think of it looking back she sounds like me i used to "operate" my toys with needles when i was 11
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:58 pm
I honestly wouldn't be too worried. Little kids are all sorts of creepy when they're around that age. It's just a thing.
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Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:23 pm
Eric Wolfborn IrishHavanaWhitewolf I honestly think there is something seriously seriously wrong with the little girl. I would say demonic possession. Though I don't honestly know. The demonic thing on the wall should have been removed not painted over. Her parents should never have allowed the catching animals thing. That isn't creative. Can you tell me what the demonic symbol looked like? Though I place my money on demonic possession. She is also showing signs of Anti-social behavior. I have to be honest when I was younger I would "punish" my dolls and what not though I would never hang them and I don't think I was creepy or anything of that nature. I do believe that children are much more sensitive then older people. I'm not to sure why though. Authenticated cases of demonic posession are so few and far between, I wouldn't even approach that conclusion with a 20-foot pole. It sounds to me like the girl has a chemical imbalance. It doesn't help that she's being prodded by Fundie-christian types. Either she's revolting subconsciously against a faith that doesn't sit well with her or she has a mental condition. The effigy on the wall WAS destroyed. Painting over it effectivly nullifies it. All you'd need to do is add an extra line to the symbol for it to be innacurate and innefective. Bottom line? Demon = no. *Sigh* Demonic possession is actually much more common then you think. The church just doesn't regonize it. As for the the syblom it takes more then just painting over it to destroy it.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:39 pm
IrishHavanaWhitewolf Eric Wolfborn IrishHavanaWhitewolf I honestly think there is something seriously seriously wrong with the little girl. I would say demonic possession. Though I don't honestly know. The demonic thing on the wall should have been removed not painted over. Her parents should never have allowed the catching animals thing. That isn't creative. Can you tell me what the demonic symbol looked like? Though I place my money on demonic possession. She is also showing signs of Anti-social behavior. I have to be honest when I was younger I would "punish" my dolls and what not though I would never hang them and I don't think I was creepy or anything of that nature. I do believe that children are much more sensitive then older people. I'm not to sure why though. Authenticated cases of demonic posession are so few and far between, I wouldn't even approach that conclusion with a 20-foot pole. It sounds to me like the girl has a chemical imbalance. It doesn't help that she's being prodded by Fundie-christian types. Either she's revolting subconsciously against a faith that doesn't sit well with her or she has a mental condition. The effigy on the wall WAS destroyed. Painting over it effectivly nullifies it. All you'd need to do is add an extra line to the symbol for it to be innacurate and innefective. Bottom line? Demon = no. *Sigh* Demonic possession is actually much more common then you think. The church just doesn't regonize it. As for the the syblom it takes more then just painting over it to destroy it. In order for a demonic symbol to affect the people it's too effect, the said people would have to see it. If the symbol was painted over it before the child ever saw it, then she's just acting out in accord with her own body impulses. If she saw it, then the argument for possession can be raised. Furthermore, for a creature to be possessed by another, they would have had to undergo debilitating stress at some point where their body was substantially weakened to the point where they couldn't fight off the energies of other beings trying to overtake them, or be a willing vessel for said possessing spirit. Somehow, I don't think that she was that near death (because the child would have had to be near death for a spirit to possess her against her will), nor was she a willing vessel for it. Children have an accute sense of good and bad, more so than adults because their thoughts are more pure. In a nutshell, she's not possessed, she's just weird. twisted
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:39 pm
IrishHavanaWhitewolf Eric Wolfborn IrishHavanaWhitewolf I honestly think there is something seriously seriously wrong with the little girl. I would say demonic possession. Though I don't honestly know. The demonic thing on the wall should have been removed not painted over. Her parents should never have allowed the catching animals thing. That isn't creative. Can you tell me what the demonic symbol looked like? Though I place my money on demonic possession. She is also showing signs of Anti-social behavior. I have to be honest when I was younger I would "punish" my dolls and what not though I would never hang them and I don't think I was creepy or anything of that nature. I do believe that children are much more sensitive then older people. I'm not to sure why though. Authenticated cases of demonic posession are so few and far between, I wouldn't even approach that conclusion with a 20-foot pole. It sounds to me like the girl has a chemical imbalance. It doesn't help that she's being prodded by Fundie-christian types. Either she's revolting subconsciously against a faith that doesn't sit well with her or she has a mental condition. The effigy on the wall WAS destroyed. Painting over it effectivly nullifies it. All you'd need to do is add an extra line to the symbol for it to be innacurate and innefective. Bottom line? Demon = no. *Sigh* Demonic possession is actually much more common then you think. The church just doesn't regonize it. As for the the syblom it takes more then just painting over it to destroy it. Don't you sigh at me. The church has been training Exorcists for years. The new pope officially recognized demonic possession as possible.There are a number of mental illnesses that can lead to one believing that they are or looking like they are possessed. Again, that doesn't mean they are. The key word is 'authenticated.' As for effigies: If the image is removed, it's no longer an effigy. The very act of painting over it removed it, period. Tell you what, if it's a demon, get some mandrake root and take it into the girl's room. If she screams and flees, it's a demon. If she looks at you funny because you're pointing a root at a little girl like a gun, well....that's that, then, isn't it?
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:16 am
Simply put, she's not possessed of anything except an imagination, and maybe a streak of anti-socialness.
I wouldn't worry about it, it's not that big of a deal. The little girl is fine.
If anything, the energy attached to the symbol was probably well entrenched in the room (the energy that the person making it put into it, not the symbol's energy proper) and so that may have affected her.
I would call for a ritual cleansing of the area with some sage and rosemary, and some freshly made blessed water sprinkled about the room, but that's only to clear the room of the old energy.
Any signs of "creepiness" just attribute to the little girl being a little girl and not worry about it.
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:09 am
aye thinking back I know I was ALOT like this girl heh but now im fine-ish but I have add epilepsy and some issues with male authority figures and back then we didn’t know and it was untreated so many she should have some tests done maybe a cat scan but most of all pray to a father and mother figure to kick those parents in the head
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 12:43 pm
first of all. try saying Cresto(God in Latin) to the little girl and see if she flinches/screams or anything lik that.(if deemeed possessed) then read parts in the bible that have to do with jesus redeeming someone/cleansing people/anything about demons. make sure to have at least 20 minutes worth of verse or story that you can keep reading or it can be dangerous if she really is possessed.
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:49 pm
I know I'm not qualified to perform an exorcism. I'm not even going to try it. As far as Eric's rant on effigies-- the resonance from the very ritual of creating it could linger. Destroying it could likely remove the resonance, but this isn't exactly thorough.
I agree that authentic posession is rare, however, until there are case studies involving mental disorders and the supernatural, I'm going to argue that we don't exactly know how supernatural elements interact with our brains, and it is likely that some mental illness can be directly caused by supernatural means.
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:32 pm
I have to agree that the little girl sound creepy (except for the hugging her brother and telling him she love him, that's just really sweet). If you see her (or her brother does) punishing her dolls again, ask her where she got the idea from. All the things they tell us when going into the teaching profession and worrying about abuse is listen to the kids. There are signs to look out for but the best one is the child says they're abused. Kids are surprisingly honest about things like that. Maybe it's not abuse or demonic possession, maybe she's just been watching some really creepy tv. Talk to the child.
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:40 pm
I wouldn't be to worried...I used to be the same way. And pretty much am. ^^U Though I used to litterally cut my dolls with sharp stuff.
She might just be rebeling. ^^; I know I would...truthfully I think if she was being possessed by a demon she wouldn't be telling her brother that she loves him...thought that's just me. ^^;
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:55 pm
weird she is definetly possesed i would suggest get some holy water putting some on your hand and touching her like nothings happening if she freaks out she is possesed
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:51 pm
Either she's Disney's Lilo or she's possed.
Since this is a loved friend blood family member their is obviously care and consern for her wellbeing. Get her brother and other (most helpfully non-oblivious) people to help you help her. Try to figure out whats wrong with her and help her out. Once you know whats wrong maybe you can opeal to her opressed good side and bring her back safely into the arms of her loved ones. n.n
Or at least thats what I would try. <3
Good luck with it, I hope she ends up alright, actualy I feel kind of bad for her. Look at it this way, what if she's being forced, influenced or controled? The poor girl, I can't even begin to imagine how she must feel. I hope everything turns out well for all of you.
Then again I may just be overthinking things. x3
She could just be naturaly strange or any of the other explinations the other posters said, it dosn't mean she's possesed. But if she is you may want to take my advice. Just try and talk to her ask her subttlely why she dose some of these things and kind of try and figure out whats wrong.
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:54 pm
I am not a Christan but i do know a good bit about the religion among many others. This slightly sounds like demon possession but i like to feel my way around a situation from the tid-bits you have given. Children are indeed more intune with such things as spirits. So i cant rule that out.
Lets keep in mind that "demonic symblos" are not always as they appear you give a ignorant person a Pentagram and they think its a demonic symbol pehaps what was above her bed was a protection seal or binding either of those how ever are to be taken seriously because you dont know who put it there what their intentions were or if they did it correctly. Teenagers even trying to be "bad a**" can do major damage if they mess around with the wrong kinda magic and beings trust me i know. If you have any sort of ability as far as picking up energys emotions images i would go spend some time in her bedroom if you dont pick anything up rule that out there will be something left over from the ritual especialy if it has to do with demons but it might be faint.
If you dont pick anything up go spend some time with the little sister invite he out to eat with you or just a walk in the park talk to her alone if you have to bribe her with sometime. Feel her out see what you pick up off of her even if you don't have any skills you should be able to watch her and listen and tell if there is something wrong. The idea is to make you her friend even if shes creepy you care about her and want to know if something is going on weather it be supernatural or not.
If you find out it is a demon DO NOT ******** WITH IT demons are not nessesarely bad but they will defend them selfs against a threat maby its not harming her maby shes willingly sharing her body with it because it made friends with her and got her to trust it. I know when i was little i was always alone in school i was around people but none of them were really my friends if a demon who came in the form of something friendly approuched me i would have welcomed it just because i was so lonely.
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:57 pm
LilaMalvae I know I'm not qualified to perform an exorcism. I'm not even going to try it. As far as Eric's rant on effigies-- the resonance from the very ritual of creating it could linger. Destroying it could likely remove the resonance, but this isn't exactly thorough. I agree that authentic posession is rare, however, until there are case studies involving mental disorders and the supernatural, I'm going to argue that we don't exactly know how supernatural elements interact with our brains, and it is likely that some mental illness can be directly caused by supernatural means. I have been thinking about that alot lately maby religion and science bolth have it right.
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