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 Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 12:19 pm
And to think, all this started when I created Nicefest. Glad I could've helped guys.
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 12:27 pm
Freakshow88 And to think, all this started when I created Nicefest. Glad I could've helped guys. Shut the ******** up and get the ******** out. No one likes you or cares about you. They say they do? They're just doing it so you might for once shut the ******** up.
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:27 am
Another thing that I'm adding to the main post:
Match Physics:
In a match, some things aren't always clear. Whether it be location, positioning, or the move someone's going for. That's fine; get it all cleared up before you continue. But don't get offended over it. Don't argue and disrespect eachother, because of something as minor as someone not being where you wanted them to be. Get it resolved, move on.
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 11:44 pm
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 2:37 am
I know I'm going to get some hate for this, but I'm going to go ahead and say this. Pushing people to titles too soon does more harm than good, now before you get your panties in a twist, allow me to explain. Everyone knows I have no problem pushing new people, and testing the waters with others. However, in most (not all) everyone's mind, they see it as 'favoritism' I'm perhaps the most neutral person when it comes to pushing people. I push those that get themselves noticed, those that take the initiative to post their own promos without being told to, or make their own feuds. I'm going to use Justin for an example, as I was talking about him with Fox. Myself You don't need to prove anything to Justin, he is a newbie that got the 'Sheamus' treatment, the 'Wade Barrett' treatment the '2004 Orton' treatment. People are elevating him to main event status too soon, and it's going to his head. It's going to do more harm than good to him, honestly look at St. Joey he's been here for ages and hasn't won his first world title. You've got Justin that's been getting shot after shot and he blows it, and now that he's got a general idea he's going to win a world title it's getting to him and he thinks he's hot s**t. Now let's say he wins I dunno the WWE:E title and then EWA title. He's going to become insignificant very fast, just wait and see. Not because he'll job or anything, it's because once he's earned that first world title that'll be all he needs to keep him happy. The other world title won't mean anything to him and the lineage of that title won't be as great because he'll either go inactive, or simply shrug the match off. Now Justin very well maybe the exception but I've seen it happen far too many times. He's got a feud with King and that's all he's got going for him right now. He's getting noticed by people like Shanahan, King, Snypa, Landry, myself and that's feeding his ego. So in hindsight, you don't need to prove anything to him, he needs to prove something to himself. Is he going to be a credible champion, or is he going to become insignificant? I like to give people first title reigns, or nostalgic title reigns. (like a reformed tag team's first tag title reign or last) As my own way of giving back, because let's face it, I'm an a*****e. but I make them earn it. I personally think pushing people too soon, like a few months within their debut is going to do more harm than good. Newbies being taken under a vet's wing? Good. Pushing them to a world title shot? Not good. In the business there's something called 'paying your dues' meaning that you pay your dues before getting respect. I'm not saying that that means you're instantly a jobber, or you're not going to get pushed. Newbies should at least acknowledge the older generation and respect them. A little respect gets them respect and so forth. In most cases, vets these days aren't interested in titles they're interested in stories because they want to go out with a bang so to speak. Me personally I'm usually a transitional champion because I want others to step up. "Oh Chrono's the champion, if I take the belt from him it'll elevate me!" I want to see that, I don't want to see 'gimme gimme, I deserve it' show me you deserve it. Rip me apart in a promo, infuriate me, but don't beg and don't say you deserve it because chances are I can point out several people that DO deserve it, and they're not even asking for it. Example: In XCW I came in to build the tag division and right now I am the tag division. Jarel asked me to step in and show Harli and Omega how to act their roles, as Omega was a heel acting like a take all comers face, and Harli was a face acting like a cowardly heel. They didn't know their 'roles' so I came out ripped them apart, and laid out an offer they couldn't refuse (though Harli being the face refused, and Omega being the heel accepted) Newbies in short shouldn't even win their first title until at least 3 months after their initial debut. In most cases that'll be a tag or lower-midcard title. I say three months because most (not all) cards last 1 month. So something like this Debut match - another match - contender match possibly - title match I mean aren't you tired of seeing a 10x LookatmeIhave10beltsbutonlydebutedlastweek Champion on people's resume? I know I am. Every time I see it, I roll my eyes and am like "Really? That means s**t to me" Before you go, Chrono you had some people win titles in their debut match. I'll say, and most guild owners have done the same thing. However that was the past and this is now. So this is something that ALL guild owners need to work on. Else we get egomaniacs like Justin (trolololol)
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 8:52 am
I'd quote for truth, but that's a long post and in the interest of brevity I won't actually quote it. Was that comment about giving reformed tag teams a reign possibly foreshadowing the outcome of Dementium? ninja
You're right though, pushing rookies does more harm than good and it's probably best to let them debut and work out their characters as well as their "ring skills", so to speak. If you were really booking a promotion you wouldn't put your world title on a wrestler who recently debuted and is just getting his bearings, would you? It's the same principle. My booking philosophy is that you should push the people who have the strongest characters, the ones who you'd want as the face of your promotion.
I love EWA's rule that forbids title begging, and I wish it were more widely implemented. Actually, doing more NXT-style stuff would help with the rookies too; offer a midcard title shot as the prize and have a panel of veteran judges vote on them, that should inspire some good work.
...That was actually a fairly long post. So much for brevity, eh?
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 9:32 am
First point: Depends on what happens, but I had 'The' Tag Team win tag titles suddenly, same with LAO.
Second: Exactly
Just because it's a rule doesn't mean everyone will follow it...
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 1:06 pm
Yukari Clepsydra You don't need to prove anything to Justin, he is a newbie that got the 'Sheamus' treatment, the 'Wade Barrett' treatment the '2004 Orton' treatment You've got Justin that's been getting shot after shot and he blows it and now that he's got a general idea he's going to win a world title it's getting to him and he thinks he's hot s**t. Not because he'll job or anything, it's because once he's earned that first world title that'll be all he needs to keep him happy. The other world title won't mean anything to him and the lineage of that title won't be as great because he'll either go inactive, or simply shrug the match off. Now Justin very well maybe the exception but I've seen it happen far too many times. Else we get egomaniacs like Justin (trolololol) Shaemus treatment? Chrono, couple months from now, I'll have been around for 3 years. Your facts need to get more straightened out. What shot after shot? The only shot I blew was winning a title back that was planned then I went inactive for a month. The only time I went inactive and blew a shot. A did blow a shot in GWF, but that's because I started to find that guild uncredible. I think I'm hot s**t? If you're talking about the skype messages of me going, "YOUR NEW EWA/WWE:E CHAMPION JUSTIN AMAZE" That's just for something to say, and mostly to annoy. Plus, almost every time I've said it, a conversation has started up. Yeah, I think I'm getting better, but hot s**t? I've already admitted rookies to being far better than I am, how is that hot s**t? Chrono, I've put hard work in since day 1. I've put hard work into getting better, into my matches, into my promos, I'm not going to shrug anything off or go inactive. If I win either or both titles, I'm not going to favourite one or the other. No, I'm going to find myself a great feud and work my a** off in it to prove that I can do this. For both titles. Now, I understood where you were going with all this. I was fine with it, it gave me something to do. Prove you wrong after typing a lot, and then be amazing(see what I did thurrr?). But that last comment got me. Who are YOU out of all people, to be ripping on someone else being an egomaniac?
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 2:23 pm
Neo_Hurricane Bender: The cruelty of the old pharaoh is a thing of the past! Crowd: YAAAAAY! Bender: Let a whole NEW wave of cruelty wash over this lazy land! Crowd: Yay? Told you. To quote a scientific term: matter cannot be created or destroyed, only change forms. Kinda like bullshit. It never goes away.
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 2:56 pm
Justin Amaze Yukari Clepsydra You don't need to prove anything to Justin, he is a newbie that got the 'Sheamus' treatment, the 'Wade Barrett' treatment the '2004 Orton' treatment You've got Justin that's been getting shot after shot and he blows it and now that he's got a general idea he's going to win a world title it's getting to him and he thinks he's hot s**t. Not because he'll job or anything, it's because once he's earned that first world title that'll be all he needs to keep him happy. The other world title won't mean anything to him and the lineage of that title won't be as great because he'll either go inactive, or simply shrug the match off. Now Justin very well maybe the exception but I've seen it happen far too many times. Else we get egomaniacs like Justin (trolololol) Shaemus treatment? Chrono, couple months from now, I'll have been around for 3 years. Your facts need to get more straightened out. What shot after shot? The only shot I blew was winning a title back that was planned then I went inactive for a month. The only time I went inactive and blew a shot. A did blow a shot in GWF, but that's because I started to find that guild uncredible. I think I'm hot s**t? If you're talking about the skype messages of me going, "YOUR NEW EWA/WWE:E CHAMPION JUSTIN AMAZE" That's just for something to say, and mostly to annoy. Plus, almost every time I've said it, a conversation has started up. Yeah, I think I'm getting better, but hot s**t? I've already admitted rookies to being far better than I am, how is that hot s**t? Chrono, I've put hard work in since day 1. I've put hard work into getting better, into my matches, into my promos, I'm not going to shrug anything off or go inactive. If I win either or both titles, I'm not going to favourite one or the other. No, I'm going to find myself a great feud and work my a** off in it to prove that I can do this. For both titles. Now, I understood where you were going with all this. I was fine with it, it gave me something to do. Prove you wrong after typing a lot, and then be amazing(see what I did thurrr?). But that last comment got me. Who are YOU out of all people, to be ripping on someone else being an egomaniac? *sigh* I already knew you'd be a d**k about it, because you couldn't read one simple line " Else we get egomaniacs like Justin (trolololol)"
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 2:58 pm
I just realized something...Justin is me a year ago.
Heres a piece of advice from someone who has had ego go to his head: STOP. Your going down a path that will not lead to where you want to be and you will be pulling your hair out in frustration. I had to leave for the simple fact that I couldn't take it antmore, and now that I am back I see that slow playing is the best way to get where you want to be. Allow your promo work and matches to speak for themselves.
And newsflash: while you may have been around for three years noone had heard of you, and when you did break out you flew through the ranks like a bat out of hell therefore you are Sheamus.
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:27 pm
Yukari Clepsydra Justin Amaze Yukari Clepsydra You don't need to prove anything to Justin, he is a newbie that got the 'Sheamus' treatment, the 'Wade Barrett' treatment the '2004 Orton' treatment You've got Justin that's been getting shot after shot and he blows it and now that he's got a general idea he's going to win a world title it's getting to him and he thinks he's hot s**t. Not because he'll job or anything, it's because once he's earned that first world title that'll be all he needs to keep him happy. The other world title won't mean anything to him and the lineage of that title won't be as great because he'll either go inactive, or simply shrug the match off. Now Justin very well maybe the exception but I've seen it happen far too many times. Else we get egomaniacs like Justin (trolololol) Shaemus treatment? Chrono, couple months from now, I'll have been around for 3 years. Your facts need to get more straightened out. What shot after shot? The only shot I blew was winning a title back that was planned then I went inactive for a month. The only time I went inactive and blew a shot. A did blow a shot in GWF, but that's because I started to find that guild uncredible. I think I'm hot s**t? If you're talking about the skype messages of me going, "YOUR NEW EWA/WWE:E CHAMPION JUSTIN AMAZE" That's just for something to say, and mostly to annoy. Plus, almost every time I've said it, a conversation has started up. Yeah, I think I'm getting better, but hot s**t? I've already admitted rookies to being far better than I am, how is that hot s**t? Chrono, I've put hard work in since day 1. I've put hard work into getting better, into my matches, into my promos, I'm not going to shrug anything off or go inactive. If I win either or both titles, I'm not going to favourite one or the other. No, I'm going to find myself a great feud and work my a** off in it to prove that I can do this. For both titles. Now, I understood where you were going with all this. I was fine with it, it gave me something to do. Prove you wrong after typing a lot, and then be amazing(see what I did thurrr?). But that last comment got me. Who are YOU out of all people, to be ripping on someone else being an egomaniac? *sigh* I already knew you'd be a d**k about it, because you couldn't read one simple line " Else we get egomaniacs like Justin (trolololol)" Lmao, a d**k about it? Don't be a dumb a** Chrono. I was saying what I had to say, just like you did. And I obviously did read that as I responded to it.
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:28 pm
red_dragon_masta I just realized something...Justin is me a year ago. Heres a piece of advice from someone who has had ego go to his head: STOP. Your going down a path that will not lead to where you want to be and you will be pulling your hair out in frustration. I had to leave for the simple fact that I couldn't take it antmore, and now that I am back I see that slow playing is the best way to get where you want to be. Allow your promo work and matches to speak for themselves. And newsflash: while you may have been around for three years noone had heard of you, and when you did break out you flew through the ranks like a bat out of hell therefore you are Sheamus. You should really stop posting. So far, you've only proven to us since your return how much your stupidity has grown. True words are true.
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:37 pm
red_dragon_masta And newsflash: while you may have been around for three years noone had heard of you, and when you did break out you flew through the ranks like a bat out of hell therefore you are Sheamus. I felt like responding to this suddenly.. When I did break out and get noticed? Was still a while ago. Don't talk when you don't know jack s**t. Stfu and gtfo if that's what you plan to do. Keep your nose out of business that isn't yours. I was first noticed when I won tag titles with Draze. I first broke out at FWD when I got noticed more by bigger vets and when Velocity formed. That was a while ago, yet. I kept on getting noticed for what I was doing, I won some singles titles. And after being here for nearly 3 years, being good at what I'm doing, I figured it was time to see if I could run with a bigger title. Like I said, stfu and keep your nose in your own business.
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Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:44 pm
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