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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:04 am


Aiusagi

Please provide thread links to these posts and threads so I may view them at my leisure.

Also please discuss the following question full detail:

What are the current problems the guild are facing now, and how do you plan to attack them effectively? (Please keep in mind that as crew members we are actively trying to solve these problems ourselves, but sometimes our solutions are not as effective as we hope them to be, please do not make this a personal attack on the crew)

My opinion and K's are similar, but however it is possible to persuade me. The reason is that in the case of Darius, my position was that in addition to the lack of need, I had a problem with his personality, and that is the real reason I was never swayed on this issue. I do not have a problem with your personality, and am very glad you took the initiative to step up to the plate. The truth is however we need more regular members like you, because we already have crew members like you.
Please respond to my post Ferregar. Also I would like to agree with parts k' said, I also did not have the intent of being crew. I was helping the guild just for the sake of helping, because I like this guild and I wanted to work for it. Even if you don't become promoted, which we're unsure of at this point. Keep in mind any work you do for the guild needs to be selfless.

Sorry Ai, I completely overlooked that second post. Here are the links + the details.

-The Shrine of Alteras (New RP Rank Testing)

-There are currently no links to the work I'm doing on Jesse's class system or the lore, because much of the lore is conceptual right now and can't be finalized until I discuss it more with Wielder and the rest of the crew. The same is true for the class system.

-My Involvement in Towns Committee + Some of the events I've proposed

There would be more, but as I've said before, I feel limited. In all honesty that has been and will continue to be the biggest problem I have. I respect and understand the statement that not being on crew doesn't prevent me from contributing and being involved, but Jesse(Darius) himself has just stated how difficult it was to be the Haven Moderator without crew privileges, and NO ONE has the right to tell me how my creative processes should work. They work excellently the way they, except that they are currently obstructed.

That being said, here's my answer to your question:

The GML's efforts at revision are well placed but spread too thin. Crew members themselves have stated that they are busy, and have been unable to contribute. This should be one of the first signs that help is needed. In addition to this, in the past the GML has tried to integrate to many separate entities (departments, Armeekorps, registration etc) together with too few members to really make it work, while at the same time only a few of those groups were actually connected through RP and In Character. In my opinion, everything needs to be connected. Consequences for Mercenary Characters in Haven shall reflect upon the Guild's RP World, items and events found will be cataloged and acknowledged throughout the Guild, and in doing all of this everything will start to follow a more cohesive movement.

I've already stated most of my plans for attacking them - head on. I have the time and means to yield alot of new information and content, while revising what we have to make it all flow together. My primary concern is to make the GML a steadfast and engaging RP community where people do more than sit around twiddling their thumbs, waiting for a rare post. Obviously, part of that will be addressed by additional member recruitment, but that alone will only bring us new members, who in turn will be active, then become absent if there's nothing to really keep them here. With Strifer;s help, we will implement a relatively free-form class system that allows people to continue to grow in strength instead of starting at the top, while at the same time allowing them to competently battle with stronger characters. We need new concepts and ideas that are foreign anywhere else on Gaia. Those will become our trademarks, and what we are known for. That is what will get people coming to us, instead of having our members searching for new additions.

----- Okay, that's it for my answer to the question,

Everything I'm doing for GML is selfless, Aisaugi. Everyone here has my assurance on that, and I can be held to it. I want to see, and be responsible for, watching the GML completely reinvent itself for the better, and help it grow into a real organization of merit. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't want this promotion for power. There's no "fame" in it. I need the promotion to work at my absolute best, with my production and inspirations unhindered. This is what is best for the Guild. I feel that is rather clear, and might even exceed simply being my opinion, but that is a matter entirely up to a person's perception.

Though, I do have one thing I'd like to state. I am not you, Aiusagi, nor am I K. Do not use yourselves as examples and judge me by them. Each person is radically different from the next, and I have already spent a good amount of time assuring people that I am not volatile, hot headed or any sort of danger to the community based on the judgments others had on people I've never even met. I'd like to request that we not go in that direction again, from a different path. Thank you.

Oh, and one more thing. I'd like to draw everyone's attention to this. The statement "Regardless of this situation's outcome, the Guild wins," is wrong. If I can't do my best for GML, the guild is not winning in any way. If I am crew, I am still a member of this guild. An active member, working to find new members and make them stay. That there's simply "not enough room" for me is a silly thought. This is the internet, there are no boundaries, and I am here to assist in my fullest capacity. The Guild, and its members, win if we can dismiss old rules and mantras, and I have the opportunity to prove myself.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:59 am


The_Master_Wielder

As for what the crew has done... Not much, because they're all busy. But they're the ones I trust most. Get it? They're crew because I trust them beyond the internet barrier, past the fake names and the masks we wear. I just wish they had more time on their hands for the League. That, I think... would make all the difference, as far as crew power and function goes.


Just to respond to this, in all honestly that isn't the most effective way to pick the crew members. Yes it's an important factor, but not the most effective. I trust Kain a lot, but with the amount of time he's spent on recently I would never have him be a crew member in a guild I owned. I would politely tell him that he isn't on enough, then promote someone who has the time to do so into that position. If my girlfriend was a crew member in my guild and she wasn't getting on enough I would demote her and give the position to someone with more time.

When they got back, they would have to come back and do better than one of the other crew members for me to promote them again. It's not that I don't trust them. It's that someone else has the time to do what they can't. Be it anyone I know and trust.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:48 am


Thank you Strifer, you put that very nicely.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:18 pm


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That is a good point Strifer...alot of people do that but I canunderstand how K and many others have been a part of the guild for years soo idk.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:47 pm


Quote:
Oh, and one more thing. I'd like to draw everyone's attention to this. The statement "Regardless of this situation's outcome, the Guild wins," is wrong. If I can't do my best for GML, the guild is not winning in any way. If I am crew, I am still a member of this guild. An active member, working to find new members and make them stay. That there's simply "not enough room" for me is a silly thought. This is the internet, there are no boundaries, and I am here to assist in my fullest capacity. The Guild, and its members, win if we can dismiss old rules and mantras, and I have the opportunity to prove myself.

And I'd like to add that what I meant by that is that either way, you and I and everyone else are still gonna work for a better guild despite the outcome. If you don't become a Crew member, I doubt you're just gonna toss everything aside and walk away forever and ever. If you do become Crew, you will carry on with what you've started.

That's all I'm saying right now. I'm not discussing other stuff or anything and I don't expect anyone to discuss what I've said. I'm just explaining that sentence. I'll continue watching now.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:58 am


If I do not acquire a position among the Crew, I will be scaling back my efforts significantly. It is simply too much work with too little control on my behalf to attempt its undertaking. Implementing the class system, creation of banners and guild layout design, and many of the the other changes I've mentioned will no longer be my responsibility.

I don't think making such a statement is rash or unreasonable. If I cannot be given the power to make my work efficient, I will resume my duties as a standard member of the guild, and will step down from my position as Haven moderator after completing the new system of Rank Testing.

Ferregar


Ferregar

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:18 pm


This is where the matter stands as of now.

Darius, Gear, Strifer, and Ratchet support my promotion to Crew.

K and Hakabakashi do not support my promotion to Crew.

Sagi is in the process of making her decision.

Xeg and Kaneharo have not contributed to the discussion.

As of this time, Wielder has abstained from making a decision.

I know that a couple of the aforementioned are not members of the crew, but as they have given their input, I wanted to be sure they were acknowledged. I will send a PM to Xeg to see if he's willing to post. As for Kaneharo... who/where is he?

I would like to keep this discussion moving. I am noticing that Guild activity is only continuing to decline while we deliberate on this. A decision must be made.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:48 pm


Kaneharo is a veteran who's been around since before the Suicide conflict, with a high degree of experience. His advice is not something I take lightly, and he's voiced his opinion in the TOC against you. He has a tendency to lurk until needed, you see, because he does have other guilds on Gaia to tend to. However, I trust him and respect him greatly. Thus, he is crew.

You say we need to reach a decision? Very well, then I'll make one right now.

While others may not have noticed, a few of us have. Your tone's been changing, possibly due to frustration, or perhaps impatience. While originally you were suggesting that crew would assist you in your efforts, now you're demanding it, lest you cease Mod activities.

You were doing well enough as Haven Mod already. You say you have no control? Bollocks.
How about this system: You make a thread, and ask me to make it into an announcement. Because you made the thread, you can edit it whenever you want. Do that for most of the threads in the haven, and you'll be set. Anything else you need, ask a crew member. That's how it worked with Darius, and it worked relatively well.
Other crew powers:
Invitation- You don't need that. Have someone submit a join application, and PM me, notifying me of it. I get phone alerts, so wherever I am I'll know I need to check Gaia and accept this person, if someone else doesn't first.
Move Threads- Ask a crew member.
Delete Threads- Ask a crew member.
Edit other people's posts- Ask a crew member.

So, while you don't have direct control, you have control.

Which means your biggest argument for a crew position is nothing. Couple that with a degrading attitude that's revealed to me some critical character flaws, and you've got my final decision.

No.

The_Master_Wielder
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:12 pm


Hm... I see my Opinion is moot, since Wielder has answered before I had time to read the thread.

However, Ferregar, if you do continue your work as Haven Mod, You may PM me or any other crew member for changes needed to the Haven. I generally get on for about 5 minutes two times every day, and any PM I see from you will take priority.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:17 pm


Ferrergar, I understand your frustration, but you've basically managed, in the crew's eyes at least, to push yourself out of the running, at least temporarily, mostly because of the ultimatums you made.

If you continue to help, you have a much better chance in the future of earning the responsibility of crew member. However, if you choose to scale back or quit efforts to help the guild, you seriously harm your chances of ever being back in the running.

The fact that you asked is not the problem. I asked MDG if I could become crew when I hit a high rank in the old Armeekorps rank system. But I discussed it with her privately, and made no demands of crewdom. The rest of the crew at the time saw what I had done, knew that I wasn't being pushy, and approved unanimously my request. Sometimes it's not WHAT you ask, but HOW you ask it.

I'm sorry that you didn't make it this time, but there's much you can learn from what has transpired here.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:19 pm


I have to agree with Wielder. For one big reason. The degrading attitude. I have little responsibilities around here, and most all of those are direct requests from Wielder. I've done a decent amount of things, and stay behind the scenes. All of my situations in which I need more control, however, I simply pass the information up the chain. I'm sure if I were to be more active, I'd at least be a crew member. But that's against my own point. Which is that were I to be promoted, it would be due to me being promoted without asking. I have been promoted in a few guilds on Gaia,. and on forum boards, but never due to request. Well, my own request.

I guess what I'm trying to say is if the guild sees the need for more people to be in control and you keep up the good actions, you'll get a promotion.

Though, personally I'd keep an eye on you after the shift in mannerisms, no offense...
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:22 pm


The_Master_Wielder

While others may not have noticed, a few of us have. Your tone's been changing, possibly due to frustration, or perhaps impatience. While originally you were suggesting that crew would assist you in your efforts, now you're demanding it, lest you cease Mod activities.


I noticed it as well but I attributed it to something I saw in Darius when he was the Haven Mod. It is indeed frustration in my opinion. While he has threatened to cease activities as Mod, it was because he can't do things the instant he think of it. Imagine being the assistant manager to a company, but when and employee tells you off, or flips something over ruining the display, or even just ignores you, you don't have the power to do anything in response. You can't fire that person. You can't fix the display. You can't even be sure you've got their attention. Technically he hasn't demanded the crew position, he has simply stated that it stifles his creative structure. What he did demand was that the process of the choice get over and done with, which many of us wanted.

Now that there is an answer, this whole paragraph can be ignored. I simply wanted to throw that one last thing out there. I will cease my posting in this thread. Unless the comical timing is beyond resisting.

Strifer Garuwashi


Ferregar

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:40 pm


I understand, but I am disappointed that this "degrading attitude" you all have seen is being misinterpreted and used against me. I am simply frustrated, and am tired, and have been incredibly stressed with the matters of my finals week. Graduating in two weeks is really grinding on me, so I sincerely request you don't see this as anything but RL frustration manifesting itself.

As for the Ultimatum I made, how does it seem unreasonable? This is not a threat against the guild, and I NEVER STATED I would be quitting the guild. I love GML. That's what I've said since the very beginning. All I said was true: If I can't have the accessibility I need, I can't offer to take on everything I've said I'd do.

There's too much to discuss here. I'm also protective of the content I make. That shouldn't be unexpected. When I imagine something, I want people to acknowledge that. Not in praise, but simply seeing that it is mine. The content I make is for the guild, but I want that acknowledgment. Please give it to me Wielder. If that comes in the form of small text acknowledging me like I requested from you previously, then that's fine. But seeing my work under another person's name is unsettling to me, especially when only I know any better.

Please reconsider this. My attitude isn't changing. I'm just overwhelmed,
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:08 pm


if i may voice my objections to acending to crew, nothing personal.
1) Some people where around for years doing good for the guild over and over again and they never once requested moving up inthe guild (then again all who i think of have left to go persue life in the real world)
2) I belive we got a 100% capable and full crew that i abide my trust in completly, even if i got into arguments before with them or didnt agree with some policy.
3) As a veteran who has seen alot of the ups and downs of this guild i would like to say the smaller the crew, aslong as its dedicated, the better for it runs less a risk of being desimated from the inside out.
4) I know most dont take my opinions to heart but i am saying this with a full intention of oiceing my opinion wheather you agree or not.
5) finally i trust wielders reasoning beyond any of the other crews or members for he has shown me to be logical and nuetrally aquitted taking nothing personal into account for such decisions.
dont hate me for my feedback but this is what i got to say. peace out.

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Ferregar

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:26 pm


What about the compromise mentioned earlier- giving me a temporary promotion in 24 hour segments that allow me to post up and organize everything one day of the week? Even 12 hours.
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