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 Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:15 pm
Sage~of~Water Sodomy and Lesbianism is WRong. Um any homosexuallity is a Sodomy. You don't have to distinguish between Sodomy and Lesbianism, they are one and the same.
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:39 pm
Corin_K. Sage~of~Water Sodomy and Lesbianism is WRong. Um any homosexuallity is a Sodomy. You don't have to distinguish between Sodomy and Lesbianism, they are one and the same. no, sodomy is butt sex. Lesbians do not have to have buttsex. I'd say more on the matter but I feel like getting into an arguement so i'll just keep my mouth shut.
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:04 am
Guitarhero356 no, sodomy is butt sex. Lesbians do not have to have buttsex. I'd say more on the matter but I feel like getting into an arguement so i'll just keep my mouth shut. The definition of Sodomy has actualy changed a lot. Today it is any a**l sex. There were laws against it in many (most) states till not that long ago, when they were struck down over privacy rights. While the laws existed, and could have applied to anyone, they were almost always targeted at homosexual men. The case that broke the laws was in Texas, where police arrested a homosexual mixed couple when they were caught in the act in their own home (after a false tip off by a neighbour). The case went to the Supreme court and overruled the laws and unconsitutional. This site explains the current legal state of affairs worldwide. Note the front page image of two men being hung for being gay. http://www.sodomylaws.org/Legal definition; http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/sodomyNews report of a Texan anti-sodomy law being struck down, three years ago. http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/26/scotus.sodomy/
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:02 pm
Here are my viewpoints/solutions...
1) let everyone choose their own life style and the law doesn't interfear
2) let civil unions be allowed between any two people, men or women, black or white, whatever
3) only the state grants these civil unions. no religious association may grant them.
4) state/federal rights/privilliges are granted on the basis of if a couple has a civil union -thus ALL 'married' couples would be required to have a civil union, granted by the state to be legal in the eyes of the law
5) churches and religious affiliations grant marriages. The state can not.
6) Marriage has no legal signifigance-it becomes the religious/spiritual part of a union.
This would grant all people equall rights and freedoms, force all couples to have one legal standing (civil union) and give religions the free option of whether or not to recognize a particular civil union as a marriage and thus holy.
Seperates church and state and gets through the muck of the issue.
These are my ideas.
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:14 pm
Sage~of~Water Sodomy and Lesbianism is WRong. Let us not use an old Christian term to describe some one that is a pervert. Gay means happy and happy only! We must stop saying he or she is gay. Let us use the proper terms; Sodomy and Lesbianism. Yes, Sodomites and Lesbians can be funny, but so are drug users and alcoholics. Yes they can be good fun friends but so can drug useres and drunks. We can't just say,"Well they might be a Sodomite(or Lesbian) but they are fun!" God doesn't think(per His whole Word) that Sodomites are funny or cute. But now-days we have to be politically correct. Well I for one am sick having history, science, English, math etc destroyed by the hummanists. I am sick of Christians going on retreats how are we on Judgement Day going to say we did something when we didn't? I agree with you all and I to wish this subject wouldn't come up. Yours in Him, Sage Don't judge less you miss the beam in your eye for pointing out the speck in your sisters. We answer for ourselves and for those whom we've led astray on judgement day; not for those who have made their own concious desicing despite our living good examples of a Godly life. And it is not up to us to regulate this secuar world-Christ's kingdom is not on earth as the biblical jews wrongly hoped and today's Isralites seem to believe, but rather in Heaven. Don't fret over this world, worry about your own relation to the next. And show God's love to all people, no matter if they are homosexual or not. And I dislike the word gay to because I first learned it to mean 'happy and light' and that is how I use it but to many people take offence. Let's just say homosexual; it is politicaly correct and it only has the one deffinition as well. Everyone happy.
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 3:34 pm
Having had a long, and I mean long, legal debate on this front with a law student who, if I am not mistaken, is rather representative of the USAs legal profession, and many references to Supreme court rulings on various issues, I can reveal three things. 1) You have one less right than you would think by reading the constitution. The Supreme court ruled in a certain case known as the Slaughterhouse Cases that a certain part of the fourteenth amendment doesn't apply in most circumstances, thus making it irrelevant. This is the part used by gay rights protestors in favour of fully equal marrage rights; Quote: All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Bold part is bunk. 2) The primary reason that homosexuality is not protected in any way is because it is not legaly recognised as something that needs any form of protection, simply because it has not been brought up on a high enough level yet. The main reason I can see for this is that it has no protection, so cases involving it are never brough far enough. Only a supreme court ruling or act of congress would actualy offer them any legal standing, but that won't happen because they don't have the legal standing to be recognised. Morals or even human rights don't come into the issue unless enough people get behind it and make themselfs known. 3) The difference between civil unions and marrages is arbitary, but people want it retained because; a) It helps smooth things over between the religious right and the homosexual community. b) It draws a line in the sand, so straight people can say they are married and be known to be straight. c) It allows a tradition that hasn't really ever been formal to be made formal. However, this arbitary line is normaly abused, because they try to make it look more real by restricting the definition of civil unions. Marrage, in law, has nothing to do with religion, but still they feel that it needs to fit the religious view of the subject. I hate law when this happens.
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:41 pm
TANSTAAFL Having had a long, and I mean long, legal debate on this front with a law student who, if I am not mistaken, is rather representative of the USAs legal profession, and many references to Supreme court rulings on various issues, I can reveal three things. 1) You have one less right than you would think by reading the constitution. The Supreme court ruled in a certain case known as the Slaughterhouse Cases that a certain part of the fourteenth amendment doesn't apply in most circumstances, thus making it irrelevant. This is the part used by gay rights protestors in favour of fully equal marrage rights; Quote: All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Bold part is bunk. 2) The primary reason that homosexuality is not protected in any way is because it is not legaly recognised as something that needs any form of protection, simply because it has not been brought up on a high enough level yet. The main reason I can see for this is that it has no protection, so cases involving it are never brough far enough. Only a supreme court ruling or act of congress would actualy offer them any legal standing, but that won't happen because they don't have the legal standing to be recognised. Morals or even human rights don't come into the issue unless enough people get behind it and make themselfs known. 3) The difference between civil unions and marrages is arbitary, but people want it retained because; a) It helps smooth things over between the religious right and the homosexual community. b) It draws a line in the sand, so straight people can say they are married and be known to be straight. c) It allows a tradition that hasn't really ever been formal to be made formal. However, this arbitary line is normaly abused, because they try to make it look more real by restricting the definition of civil unions. Marrage, in law, has nothing to do with religion, but still they feel that it needs to fit the religious view of the subject. I hate law when this happens. During my parent's lifetime, sodomy was illegal in all 50 states plus our territories. In fact, if you read or have heard on the news the female that was raped in Durham, NC, was sodomized. It is indeed a crime. Even taking the word "gay" and applying it to sodomy or homosexuality shows an insentivitiy and intolerance to others that disagree. To disagree, it would seem to these individuals, is to be labelled a emotional charged term that has no foundation in reason.
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:20 pm
Sage~of~Water During my parent's lifetime, sodomy was illegal in all 50 states plus our territories. In fact, if you read or have heard on the news the female that was raped in Durham, NC, was sodomized. It is indeed a crime. Anti-sodomy laws were ruled unconstitutional. The landmark case, Lawrence vs. Texas, where two homosexual men were arrested in their own home after a hoax call was made by a neighbour and police walked in on them. They appealed and the supreme court found in their favour. As such, all laws that went against this ruling became illegal, and today only one remains in the USA, which will probably go as soon as anyone tries to apply it. In the case of the rape, sodomy has been used to refer to a**l penetration, now thought to be with 'an object'. It isn't the fact that it is sodomy that makes it illegal, but the fact that it was forced sodomy, which comes under normal rape laws. Today it will normaly carry a harsher penalty than 'normal' rape as it is seen as a more violent and painful, not to mention degrading attack. Just sharing the facts.
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:22 pm
The bible says that it is an abomination for a man to lie with a woman as with a man (Lev. 18:22; 20:13). The bible says that because of certain abominations such as homosexuality, a land will vomit out its inhabitants (18:25).
I mean, when people exchange the truth of god which it clearly states in the bible, for a lie, they are given up to evil. When values are turned upside down like we see in our decaying society and moral anarchy appears, men burn with lust for other men and women burn for women, and they will receive in their own bodies the punishment for their actions (Rom. 1:22-27)
So, from reading the bible.... the standpoint is CLEAR. The rise of homosexuality is a sign that a society is in the last stages of decay.
If you are a Christian, you know the word is 100% true. Dont listen to lies of Satan telling you that homosexuality is ok... because its not. I myself have friends who are homosexuals but I will nt judge one sin over the next because we ALL have sin in our life! Just know in your heart that it is wrong.
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