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| The end is NYE! |
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| It's all BS. |
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 Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:05 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Eltanin Sadachbia There's ALWAYS crap going on. You can't tell me that those people who lived in 1348-50 had less crap going on for them than we do now. During the Black Death Europe lost nearly 2/3 of its entire population. The 1300's was marked by worldwide hardships. There were droughts and famine in North America for over 20 years. Earthquakes in the Middle East, China, and southern Europe. There was too much rain in Europe causing crop failure, and malnutrition. Not to mention wars, religious and ethnic persecution, and political upset and unrest....Does any of this sound familiar? I could point out similarities throughout each century. The only reason there seems to be more crap now is because there are more people, and we have means of instant communication now, so we hear it almost as soon as it happens. If we base disaster per person affected, and we apply that ratio throughout history, then we see that less people are being killed by said disasters than ever before. Sure. But it's only recently that we've developed the power to significantly impact the entire planet. We now have serious environmental problems and the power to destroy the planet though. In my environmental science class, they're saying that there's more disasters. Just because less people are dying form them, doesn't mean they aren't there.
I will ignore how man-made and natural disasters are different...
We have more communication and ways of seeing around the world today so it would make sense that there are more disasters then we knew before. However, natural disasters happen because of nature. It is probably not our doing nor do I think there is more currently than the past. It just happens.
So we RECENTLY have had power to destroy the planet, eh?
Not quite...
WWII was a good possibility of the end. There may not have been nukes, but world domination could lead to the end.
Nukes aren't the only thing that could end the planet anyway and they weren't just recently developed. We just know better to not use them. Reason we don't blow up any country that threatens us as so they.undefined
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 6:35 pm
no. it's all a bunch of bullshit, and it's pissed me off that History Channel made such a killing off the fuss about it from idiots. doomsday theories sell big, so i don't blame them, but i lost interest in alot of my favourite shows because of it...
anywho, i DO think that major events will occur during that year, but it's more like a transition from one epoch or era into another.
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:45 pm
Eltanin Sadachbia xxEternallyBluexx Eltanin Sadachbia There's ALWAYS crap going on. You can't tell me that those people who lived in 1348-50 had less crap going on for them than we do now. During the Black Death Europe lost nearly 2/3 of its entire population. The 1300's was marked by worldwide hardships. There were droughts and famine in North America for over 20 years. Earthquakes in the Middle East, China, and southern Europe. There was too much rain in Europe causing crop failure, and malnutrition. Not to mention wars, religious and ethnic persecution, and political upset and unrest....Does any of this sound familiar? I could point out similarities throughout each century. The only reason there seems to be more crap now is because there are more people, and we have means of instant communication now, so we hear it almost as soon as it happens. If we base disaster per person affected, and we apply that ratio throughout history, then we see that less people are being killed by said disasters than ever before. Sure. But it's only recently that we've developed the power to significantly impact the entire planet. We now have serious environmental problems and the power to destroy the planet though. In my environmental science class, they're saying that there's more disasters. Just because less people are dying form them, doesn't mean they aren't there. It sounds like your Environmental Science Class is pushing theories on you that aren't proven facts. Just because there are more disasters happening now than have ever been recorded as they happened, doesn't mean that the world has never experienced so many disasters at once. It has been proven that the Earth has had periods of turbulence, and just because we are finally approaching one of those periods while we are watching, doesn't make it the end of the world. There are also 3 periods of history that could be interpreted to fulfill Revelation, so what proves to you that this is the "REAL" end. As a Christian, I don't think that we should be so worried about the end. I also feel that we shouldn't be so worried about formalities. If we are so focused on convincing ourselves that this is it, and worrying about whether we are ready for it, and trying so hard to be sure that OUR actions are what they should be, then we ultimately miss the big picture. We shouldn't be following our chosen path because we are worried about what happens to us in the next life, we should be focusing on caring for the people we come across in this life. If we are doing all we can to help everyone we meet to the best of our ability, then we won't be sinning, because our attention will be on positive actions. The fact is, there is an end of this life for everyone. Whether it comes all at once, or for 1 of us at a time, it's still a fact. The only thing we can be sure of is what is happening now. So what are you going to do with NOW? Why does it really matter how it happens? Who's to say you will even make it to the end, so why don't you just focus on how you treat others now? Actually, I don't think we've gone over many theories yet. Mostly we just look at numbers, and what the scientists theorize. We also had to watch an Inconvenient Truth. There are? Which ones? I want to know about that. I'm not worried about it. ^^ I think if it's the end, it's a good thing. I'm not saying it's absolutely the end, and I know things could change and our race could have more time. It just seems like the end is nye, which is fine by me. (Plus every time I start thinking it's not, I see something like the fact that modern science is close to figuring out how to significantly lengthen our lifespan, or see something about how the world's going to Hell in a hand basket, and it feels like it is again. I still figure I could be wrong, but I'm not gonna drive myself nuts looking for evidence I am either.) Total agreement. Thinking the world could very well end is not distracting me from the present. I just find it easier to believe it is the end then not. Like I said, I agree. I'm not gonna waste my live waving a sign the 'End is Near' on a highway or anything.
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:49 pm
Shadows-shine xxEternallyBluexx Eltanin Sadachbia There's ALWAYS crap going on. You can't tell me that those people who lived in 1348-50 had less crap going on for them than we do now. During the Black Death Europe lost nearly 2/3 of its entire population. The 1300's was marked by worldwide hardships. There were droughts and famine in North America for over 20 years. Earthquakes in the Middle East, China, and southern Europe. There was too much rain in Europe causing crop failure, and malnutrition. Not to mention wars, religious and ethnic persecution, and political upset and unrest....Does any of this sound familiar? I could point out similarities throughout each century. The only reason there seems to be more crap now is because there are more people, and we have means of instant communication now, so we hear it almost as soon as it happens. If we base disaster per person affected, and we apply that ratio throughout history, then we see that less people are being killed by said disasters than ever before. Sure. But it's only recently that we've developed the power to significantly impact the entire planet. We now have serious environmental problems and the power to destroy the planet though. In my environmental science class, they're saying that there's more disasters. Just because less people are dying form them, doesn't mean they aren't there. There has always been serious environmental problems to destroy the planet.... There has been an ice age, countless other storms and natural disasters. The only reason why it seems worse is because of instant communication now days and the fact there is more people on the planet. Yes, but apparently they've never been a fraction as bad as what's going on now. That's if Al Gore is to be believed, though I'm a little skeptical of An Inconvenient Truth myself. Still that's where I saw the natural cycles argument addressed.
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:55 pm
Shadows-shine xxEternallyBluexx Artto xxEternallyBluexx I think with all the c-r-a-p that's going on, the end will be soon, but I know it's not gonna be on the day all everyone thinks it will be... Christians have been thinking that the end is just around the corner for centuries now... There's a whole bunch of prophecies that were supposed to be fulfilled first that weren't until now. Plus there seems to be a 'live like you're dying' type of attitude in the church, and in some of the Bible, so that attitude could extend to the world. I haven't seen that type of attitude in the churches. I've just seen them teaching the same types of messages that they do every other sunday. Really? They had a lesson on it back when I was in sunday school. The verse about one's days not being guaranteed was brought up, and I think the extreme things the early martyrs and Paul did was also used as an example. Ah, well maybe I'm wrong... sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:06 pm
Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Eltanin Sadachbia There's ALWAYS crap going on. You can't tell me that those people who lived in 1348-50 had less crap going on for them than we do now. During the Black Death Europe lost nearly 2/3 of its entire population. The 1300's was marked by worldwide hardships. There were droughts and famine in North America for over 20 years. Earthquakes in the Middle East, China, and southern Europe. There was too much rain in Europe causing crop failure, and malnutrition. Not to mention wars, religious and ethnic persecution, and political upset and unrest....Does any of this sound familiar? I could point out similarities throughout each century. The only reason there seems to be more crap now is because there are more people, and we have means of instant communication now, so we hear it almost as soon as it happens. If we base disaster per person affected, and we apply that ratio throughout history, then we see that less people are being killed by said disasters than ever before. Sure. But it's only recently that we've developed the power to significantly impact the entire planet. We now have serious environmental problems and the power to destroy the planet though. In my environmental science class, they're saying that there's more disasters. Just because less people are dying form them, doesn't mean they aren't there.
I will ignore how man-made and natural disasters are different...
We have more communication and ways of seeing around the world today so it would make sense that there are more disasters then we knew before. However, natural disasters happen because of nature. It is probably not our doing nor do I think there is more currently than the past. It just happens.
So we RECENTLY have had power to destroy the planet, eh?
Not quite...
WWII was a good possibility of the end. There may not have been nukes, but world domination could lead to the end.
Nukes aren't the only thing that could end the planet anyway and they weren't just recently developed. We just know better to not use them. Reason we don't blow up any country that threatens us as so they.undefinedXD They don't just happen, though I thought so too. The pollutants we're dumping into the environment are causing more of them. WWII is considered recent in terms of human history. I was referring more to recent in terms of our race, and not to us individually.
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:01 am
xxEternallyBluexx Eltanin Sadachbia There are also 3 periods of history that could be interpreted to fulfill Revelation, so what proves to you that this is the "REAL" end. There are? Which ones? I want to know about that. 1) 1st Century AD- Emperor Nero and the persecution of early Christians. The early Christians had every reason to believe it was the end. Every one of the prophecies in Revelation could be accounted for back then in some shape or another. The book of Revelation is just as likely to be a Preteristic Book describing the happenings during the 1st Century as it is to be a Prophetic book of what's to come. 2)The 1300's- as already mentioned. The Black plague took many lives very quickly. Many people believed that there would be nothing to stop the plague, and all of humanity would die. Many Christians started looking to the Biblical prophecies of the end as a comfort that they would soon be beyond suffering, and could find a definition for every prophetic description they found. 3) More recently, the 1900's and WWII. Many Christians were believing that they would soon be sucked up into the big blue beyond. My Grandpa would tell me stories when I was a kid about churches having long prayer sessions to ensure that the church members wouldn't be left. When I was little, I went to bed scared to death because all they pumped into us was the end of times, the Rapture, and the Tribulation. I was worried that I might not be ready, that I might wake up and my parents be gone. I would get up at night and go to their bedroom and knock on their door to be sure that they were still there. There has always been a way to interpret the prophesies and see something you feel you are familiar with. There has been an instance in every century since Christianity, that believers were fully convinced that they lived in the end days. Now, where is your proof (or more like your environmental class' proof) that our environment being the way it is, is humanities fault? Do you ever research for yourself what you believe, or do you let everyone show you facts they have gathered? There are just as many facts showing that our climate change is a normal environmental cycle. There was also a scandal not so long ago about Mr. Gore fudging some of his "evidence". Did you know that Gore is one of the biggest proponents of carbon points? Many of our esteemed politicians in the USA are as well. They want us to pay for any carbon we use, they propose to measure that carbon by keeping track of our energy usage. Every person would have to buy points to allow us to buy the necessities that we need. These same proponent are the same ppl who talk about it being man's fault for fouling the environment. Google up "Carbon Points" and you'll immediately see all kinds of happy fun joyness about it. If you really want to get into it start researching some of the names behind it. If you look really close, you'll start seeing allot of names of individuals and companies who make allot of money off of energy while at the same time purporting to want to save the environment. Double the money, double the fun. You gotta ask yourself, "who are we paying to better the planet with these points, and what are they doing with it?" Mostly you'll see things like, "to make the world a better place," but sometimes they will go into depth about using the money to make cleaner energy. They're already supposed to be using the crazy amount of money that we pay for that though. Do some of your own research about global climate change, and climate records throughout history. Look up some of NASA's findings, the National Weather Service, and many other unbiased sources. You do well to learn at school, but don't believe everything they present to you, no matter how convincing it is. They're just trying to make you into the good little citizen they want you to be. Learn to do your own research before you believe what everyone tells you. You'll be more prepared to be something great if you can learn to do your own learning.
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