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 Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:58 pm
As I stated on the first page, it is not our place to judge. we are all "fake" at one point or another by those qualifications. I'm sure every person in this thread can think or at least one time (most likely more) when you did not act Christian while claiming to be one. I know I am. I fall daily. I'm also sure that each of us has had a moment where we did not act Christian, even in church. Many people say that the things that make us most angry are the things that we do. It is not our place to pass judgment. We have no right. only one without sin may judge the sins of others. If you believe
John 8:1-11
"But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, 'Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?' They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, 'If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.' Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, 'Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?'
'No one, sir,' she said.
'Then neither do I condemn you,' Jesus declared. 'Go now and leave your life of sin.'"
What right have we to cast a stone upon one who has fallen short? No one is without sin.
Romans 3:23
"for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"
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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:17 am
singin4Christ As I stated on the first page, it is not our place to judge. we are all "fake" at one point or another by those qualifications. I'm sure every person in this thread can think or at least one time (most likely more) when you did not act Christian while claiming to be one. I know I am. I fall daily. I'm also sure that each of us has had a moment where we did not act Christian, even in church. Many people say that the things that make us most angry are the things that we do. It is not our place to pass judgment. We have no right. only one without sin may judge the sins of others. If you believe John 8:1-11 "But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, 'Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?' They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, 'If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.' Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, 'Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?' 'No one, sir,' she said. 'Then neither do I condemn you,' Jesus declared. 'Go now and leave your life of sin.'" What right have we to cast a stone upon one who has fallen short? No one is without sin. Romans 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" I agree with what you are saying, we have no right to judge others. However, it talks about in 2 Corinthians 13:5 - "Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified." From what I have been taught, we need to check each other in the faith to make sure that we are not slipping from the faith. But minus that, I agree with you again.
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:35 am
It's kinda scary. I don't know why. But the people who say they're Christian and they're aren't. They scare me. I've been to Christian camp before and there are people who kept swearing. And yet there were others who wouldn't. At church, in the parking lot, some teenage chicks from the church went out and tipi-ed a car. O.O
That just shows how vulnerable some of us are, to Satan, right? If you are doubting, just say Jesus or God outloud and Satan will go away. That is true, right? Is it? Is it saying His name or self-control and faith that makes Satan go away?
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Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:48 am
if you are being tormented by satan you can command him to flee in Jesus' name. but God won't remove all temptation from your life because that would hinder growth. you have to use self control to resist it yourself, but God will assist if you ask.
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Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:33 am
something___5324 singin4Christ As I stated on the first page, it is not our place to judge. we are all "fake" at one point or another by those qualifications. I'm sure every person in this thread can think or at least one time (most likely more) when you did not act Christian while claiming to be one. I know I am. I fall daily. I'm also sure that each of us has had a moment where we did not act Christian, even in church. Many people say that the things that make us most angry are the things that we do. It is not our place to pass judgment. We have no right. only one without sin may judge the sins of others. If you believe John 8:1-11 "But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, 'Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?' They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, 'If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.' Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, 'Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?' 'No one, sir,' she said. 'Then neither do I condemn you,' Jesus declared. 'Go now and leave your life of sin.'" What right have we to cast a stone upon one who has fallen short? No one is without sin. Romans 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" I agree with what you are saying, we have no right to judge others. However, it talks about in 2 Corinthians 13:5 - "Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified." From what I have been taught, we need to check each other in the faith to make sure that we are not slipping from the faith. But minus that, I agree with you again. Are we to check each other or ourselves? and if we are to check each other, should we not speak with one another if there is fault instead of taking it to the world to see? "If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over" Matthew 18:15
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:11 pm
i think you've answered your own question with that verse. read the next few verses and they will tell you what to do if he doesn't listen. but keep in mind, that verse is talking about if you have a personal problem with person, not just if there is something about them that you don't like. we are only to confront someone if they do something that directly harms us or those close to us. God will take care of general character flaws.
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Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:37 pm
singin4Christ something___5324 singin4Christ As I stated on the first page, it is not our place to judge. we are all "fake" at one point or another by those qualifications. I'm sure every person in this thread can think or at least one time (most likely more) when you did not act Christian while claiming to be one. I know I am. I fall daily. I'm also sure that each of us has had a moment where we did not act Christian, even in church. Many people say that the things that make us most angry are the things that we do. It is not our place to pass judgment. We have no right. only one without sin may judge the sins of others. If you believe John 8:1-11 "But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, 'Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?' They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, 'If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.' Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, 'Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?' 'No one, sir,' she said. 'Then neither do I condemn you,' Jesus declared. 'Go now and leave your life of sin.'" What right have we to cast a stone upon one who has fallen short? No one is without sin. Romans 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" I agree with what you are saying, we have no right to judge others. However, it talks about in 2 Corinthians 13:5 - "Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified." From what I have been taught, we need to check each other in the faith to make sure that we are not slipping from the faith. But minus that, I agree with you again. Are we to check each other or ourselves? and if we are to check each other, should we not speak with one another if there is fault instead of taking it to the world to see? "If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over" Matthew 18:15 *nods* the easy answer is both
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