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 Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 2:58 pm
I can't really say that I've been busy, mostly I've been too lazy to actually get on and post. sweatdrop Anyway, addressing the issues at hand:
Deforestation:
I think we can all agree that we don't like it. Unfortunately, the harvest of trees is essential to our economy and our way of life. At least, as it exists now. My brother's done a lot of research into Industrial Hemp (and no, he's not a druggie, he's just interested). You can make almost ANYTHING out of that stuff. It's easy to grow (obviously, people grow the non-industrial variety in their basement), is a lot easier on the soil than many other cash crops, cheaper to produce, and more of the plant can be used. The Industrial variety is void of the THC that creates the high in marijuana, so that isn't an issue. Anyway, that's off topic. I think that we should be putting more research into finding alternative resources before we run out of them.
In the meantime, I would like to see the US adopt some better forest management practices in order to maintain the pristine beauty that we have. Logging is a huge industry where I am from, so I cannot say that it should just be eliminated. A good portion of the families in my valley would starve. Instead, we might adopt the Swiss (and possibly other countries, don't know) practice of selective cutting, rather than clear cutting. It's healthier for the forests, and doesn't leave the nasty scars across my beautiful hills.
In short, logging is a necessary evil until we find an alternative resource that everyone can be happy about, but we should be smarter about it.
Overpopulation:
Has anyone ever read the book "Shadow Children" by Margaret Hadix? There's actually a whole series, but the first is the best. It deals with exactly what you're talking about, though the limit is two children, not one. The story follows the life of Luke, an illegal third child. The penalty for being an illegal third child is death, as well as severe punishments for his family.
Limiting births is a great idea in principle, but when you go to implement it, there are major flaws. Someone mentioned China's abortion policy, and how it seemed too harsh, but there really is no other way to regulate it. How else would you stop people from having as many kids as they wanted? Or from having "accidents"? There really isn't a way to inforce such a policy without also having to legalize murder (in the abortions, if you believe that, or of the children that were concealed until after they were born)
I agree that something needs to be done to curb our rapid rates of growth. We are using up our resources at an amazing rate, and we're soon not going to have any space. Limiting births would be a wonderful idea if we can find a way to impliment and enforce it effectively.
As for me... I don't know. I want kids, and there's a maternal instinct in me that wants my own kids, but I feel like such an aweful person wanting to bring a new life into the world when there are so many that are unwanted, starving, and in need of a loving home. So I don't know, I've got a while before I need to make that decision though. smile
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Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:18 pm
Hooray for selective cutting! blaugh
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:52 pm
Wow thats really sad cuse I have a forest in my bakyard and I do lik the same things in it and I can understand how much there taking away and I would love to help but I don't have any good ideas unless you deside to start a petition or complain to who ever is doing this to the forest.... 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:14 pm
Well...I suppose you could try to gather a big group of people who want to stop the clear cutting and talk to some wildlife conservation organization or something...they might have the power to try to protect it.
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:41 am
AriaStarSong I can't really say that I've been busy, mostly I've been too lazy to actually get on and post. sweatdrop Anyway, addressing the issues at hand: Deforestation: I think we can all agree that we don't like it. Unfortunately, the harvest of trees is essential to our economy and our way of life. At least, as it exists now. My brother's done a lot of research into Industrial Hemp (and no, he's not a druggie, he's just interested). You can make almost ANYTHING out of that stuff. It's easy to grow (obviously, people grow the non-industrial variety in their basement), is a lot easier on the soil than many other cash crops, cheaper to produce, and more of the plant can be used. The Industrial variety is void of the THC that creates the high in marijuana, so that isn't an issue. Anyway, that's off topic. I think that we should be putting more research into finding alternative resources before we run out of them. In the meantime, I would like to see the US adopt some better forest management practices in order to maintain the pristine beauty that we have. Logging is a huge industry where I am from, so I cannot say that it should just be eliminated. A good portion of the families in my valley would starve. Instead, we might adopt the Swiss (and possibly other countries, don't know) practice of selective cutting, rather than clear cutting. It's healthier for the forests, and doesn't leave the nasty scars across my beautiful hills. In short, logging is a necessary evil until we find an alternative resource that everyone can be happy about, but we should be smarter about it. Overpopulation: Has anyone ever read the book "Shadow Children" by Margaret Hadix? There's actually a whole series, but the first is the best. It deals with exactly what you're talking about, though the limit is two children, not one. The story follows the life of Luke, an illegal third child. The penalty for being an illegal third child is death, as well as severe punishments for his family. Limiting births is a great idea in principle, but when you go to implement it, there are major flaws. Someone mentioned China's abortion policy, and how it seemed too harsh, but there really is no other way to regulate it. How else would you stop people from having as many kids as they wanted? Or from having "accidents"? There really isn't a way to inforce such a policy without also having to legalize murder (in the abortions, if you believe that, or of the children that were concealed until after they were born) I agree that something needs to be done to curb our rapid rates of growth. We are using up our resources at an amazing rate, and we're soon not going to have any space. Limiting births would be a wonderful idea if we can find a way to impliment and enforce it effectively. As for me... I don't know. I want kids, and there's a maternal instinct in me that wants my own kids, but I feel like such an aweful person wanting to bring a new life into the world when there are so many that are unwanted, starving, and in need of a loving home. So I don't know, I've got a while before I need to make that decision though. smile That's a good idea, but I have one thing to say, ******** the economy, Bush needs to fix his problems so we can begin to get out of the billion dollar debt he put us in, but I do believe that hemp is a good alternative, I just don't think money is more important than protecting the world from killing our oxygen.
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:31 pm
Devin_Kruljac_Truessence AriaStarSong I can't really say that I've been busy, mostly I've been too lazy to actually get on and post. sweatdrop Anyway, addressing the issues at hand: Deforestation: I think we can all agree that we don't like it. Unfortunately, the harvest of trees is essential to our economy and our way of life. At least, as it exists now. My brother's done a lot of research into Industrial Hemp (and no, he's not a druggie, he's just interested). You can make almost ANYTHING out of that stuff. It's easy to grow (obviously, people grow the non-industrial variety in their basement), is a lot easier on the soil than many other cash crops, cheaper to produce, and more of the plant can be used. The Industrial variety is void of the THC that creates the high in marijuana, so that isn't an issue. Anyway, that's off topic. I think that we should be putting more research into finding alternative resources before we run out of them. In the meantime, I would like to see the US adopt some better forest management practices in order to maintain the pristine beauty that we have. Logging is a huge industry where I am from, so I cannot say that it should just be eliminated. A good portion of the families in my valley would starve. Instead, we might adopt the Swiss (and possibly other countries, don't know) practice of selective cutting, rather than clear cutting. It's healthier for the forests, and doesn't leave the nasty scars across my beautiful hills. In short, logging is a necessary evil until we find an alternative resource that everyone can be happy about, but we should be smarter about it. Overpopulation: Has anyone ever read the book "Shadow Children" by Margaret Hadix? There's actually a whole series, but the first is the best. It deals with exactly what you're talking about, though the limit is two children, not one. The story follows the life of Luke, an illegal third child. The penalty for being an illegal third child is death, as well as severe punishments for his family. Limiting births is a great idea in principle, but when you go to implement it, there are major flaws. Someone mentioned China's abortion policy, and how it seemed too harsh, but there really is no other way to regulate it. How else would you stop people from having as many kids as they wanted? Or from having "accidents"? There really isn't a way to inforce such a policy without also having to legalize murder (in the abortions, if you believe that, or of the children that were concealed until after they were born) I agree that something needs to be done to curb our rapid rates of growth. We are using up our resources at an amazing rate, and we're soon not going to have any space. Limiting births would be a wonderful idea if we can find a way to impliment and enforce it effectively. As for me... I don't know. I want kids, and there's a maternal instinct in me that wants my own kids, but I feel like such an aweful person wanting to bring a new life into the world when there are so many that are unwanted, starving, and in need of a loving home. So I don't know, I've got a while before I need to make that decision though. smile That's a good idea, but I have one thing to say, ******** the economy, Bush needs to fix his problems so we can begin to get out of the billion dollar debt he put us in, but I do believe that hemp is a good alternative, I just don't think money is more important than protecting the world from killing our oxygen. I will agree with you that Bush needs to stop being a dumbass... but I can't agree with you that the money from the logging industry isn't neccessary. As I said, I come from a community with a very big logging industry. I cannot allow myself to morrally say that these families deserve to starve so that we can preserve our forests. There aren't alternative vocations for them here, the unemployment in my area is high as it is, if the timber industry disapeared, it would put thousands of people on the streets. Also, the way our society is said up, we cannot do without timber products. Go through a day and count how many things you use than came from a tree. As we are currently, we NEED the timber industry, it isn't just something frivolous. I do think that we need to be putting a much bigger emphasis on alternative resources though, because we can't continue harvesting our planet for that much longer. Well instead of throwing away all the old furniture into dumps, the wood can be reused for materials and there can be jobs for that, not only will people still have jobs and maybe even more employment, but the environment will suffer little losses if any. People need to learn how to conserve what they have, instead of just taking from the earth and depriving us of our world in its natural state.
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:47 pm
AriaStarSong I will agree with you that Bush needs to stop being a dumbass... but I can't agree with you that the money from the logging industry isn't neccessary. As I said, I come from a community with a very big logging industry. I cannot allow myself to morrally say that these families deserve to starve so that we can preserve our forests. There aren't alternative vocations for them here, the unemployment in my area is high as it is, if the timber industry disapeared, it would put thousands of people on the streets. Also, the way our society is said up, we cannot do without timber products. Go through a day and count how many things you use than came from a tree. As we are currently, we NEED the timber industry, it isn't just something frivolous. I do think that we need to be putting a much bigger emphasis on alternative resources though, because we can't continue harvesting our planet for that much longer.
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:53 pm
I especially hate it when they cut down the rainforest. Come one people, they've found over 100 cures for common disease from stuff in the rainforest. There could be even more cures in there. By cutting it down, you're just getting rid of the chance for finding a cure to cancer or AIDs. This is totally appropriate right now: 
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:56 pm
shampoo-suicide I especially hate it when they cut down the rainforest. Come one people, they've found over 100 cures for common disease from stuff in the rainforest. There could be even more cures in there. By cutting it down, you're just getting rid of the chance for finding a cure to cancer or AIDs. This is totally appropriate right now:
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:22 pm
Poor trees. *sniffles* No wonder you rarely see anymore Great Oak trees in the world.
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:56 pm
Devin_Kruljac_Truessence Poor trees. *sniffles* No wonder you rarely see anymore Great Oak trees in the world.
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:59 pm
rikuHEART Devin_Kruljac_Truessence Poor trees. *sniffles* No wonder you rarely see anymore Great Oak trees in the world. Redwood Saquoias(sp?) are such beautiful trees and are so full of water that if you pushed you hand onto the tree, you could actually make an imprint on it. That's why these trees are very non-flammable because of the great amount of water they have to hold.
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:14 pm
Devin_Kruljac_Truessence rikuHEART Devin_Kruljac_Truessence Poor trees. *sniffles* No wonder you rarely see anymore Great Oak trees in the world. Redwood Saquoias(sp?) are such beautiful trees and are so full of water that if you pushed you hand onto the tree, you could actually make an imprint on it. That's why these trees are very non-flammable because of the great amount of water they have to hold.
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:56 pm
Edit: sorry, wrong thread... stressed
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Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:10 pm
Epona Bride Edit: sorry, wrong thread... stressed
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