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 Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 6:14 pm
Hard subject, but let's see... I do think the Bible should be taught in schools, not really because it's my religion (though I'll admit I'm biased sweatdrop ) but because it has a major influence on Western Civiliztion as we know it. Part of understanding people is knowing where they came from, and many people in history were influenced by their religion. Christianity was and is a major religion, so teaching the roots of it isn't a bad thing. Having electives for different major religions (you can't do them all, but we teach Spanish and French, right? To me it's like that. We have to go with what has the greatest effect) , or clubs, wouldn't be a bad thing either.
And Zslone, sorry to hear that. There should be allowance for different opinions at least, and ways for nonthiests to avoid religion. I just also think there shoud be ways for those of us who are religious to be encouraged in that in school too.
As for Harry Potter, Christian kids shouldn't be encouraged to read it unless their parents agree with it. Groups that don't mind should be allowed to read as it as they will, but keep it away from those who think it's wrong.
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:26 pm
Zslone2 King James Edition of Genesis. And i did tell why i thought it sucked. Sorry to offend anyone if I do but it is my personal opinion. Beautiful language but really crappy translation, it even omits and adds verses to it. I'm surprised they didn't go with NIV or NASV instead. I'm not clear on why you though it sucked though. I see you saying that it's bullshit and that you don't believe it but I'm not seeing why you think its bullshit or why you don't believe in it has any relevance to the question your teacher asked. I don't believe in the Greek creation myths but I still find it pretty amazing to read and awe inspiring. I even like the various myths the Greeks had about the creation of Man. If anything I think you're letting your beliefs get in the way of understanding why the creation story in genesis and the rest of the Bible was/is significant to Western Thought and ultimately Western Literature. Edit: For a world lit class I'm surprised that the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Bhagavad Gita were not included. Both text here are pretty significant since EoG since there is many parallels to Hebrew myths and Bhagavad Gita is a foundation text of Eastern Thought.
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:36 am
The Epic of Gilgamesh was there we read various parts of it. It just doesn't awe inspire me I can't be awe inspired by something all powerful being going Bam light! and going from there. Like it just sucked in my opinion.
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 2:11 pm
Zslone2 King James Edition of Genesis. And i did tell why i thought it sucked. Sorry to offend anyone if I do but it is my personal opinion. That is generally the best version. I doubt you should have upset anyone, it usually takes quite an effort to be both honest and offensive.
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:23 pm
CH1YO Zslone2 King James Edition of Genesis. And i did tell why i thought it sucked. Sorry to offend anyone if I do but it is my personal opinion. That is generally the best version. I doubt you should have upset anyone, it usually takes quite an effort to be both honest and offensive. Why the KJV? I'm more of a NIV man myself, with all the effort that scholars put into it to make it as authentic as possible, instead of tainting it with English politics.
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:34 am
PrometheanSet CH1YO Zslone2 King James Edition of Genesis. And i did tell why i thought it sucked. Sorry to offend anyone if I do but it is my personal opinion. That is generally the best version. I doubt you should have upset anyone, it usually takes quite an effort to be both honest and offensive. Why the KJV? I'm more of a NIV man myself, with all the effort that scholars put into it to make it as authentic as possible, instead of tainting it with English politics. It's the best written text- a book should be literature first and foremost and seventeenth century English politics are not terribly subversive today- except where Locke has slipped past the censors.
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:49 pm
CH1YO PrometheanSet CH1YO Zslone2 King James Edition of Genesis. And i did tell why i thought it sucked. Sorry to offend anyone if I do but it is my personal opinion. That is generally the best version. I doubt you should have upset anyone, it usually takes quite an effort to be both honest and offensive. Why the KJV? I'm more of a NIV man myself, with all the effort that scholars put into it to make it as authentic as possible, instead of tainting it with English politics. It's the best written text- a book should be literature first and foremost and seventeenth century English politics are not terribly subversive today- except where Locke has slipped past the censors. Yes, because religion is all about pretty language! lol Nevermind what the founder of the faith actually said, lets just keep it flourished elegantly. LOL!!!
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:52 pm
PrometheanSet CH1YO PrometheanSet CH1YO Zslone2 King James Edition of Genesis. And i did tell why i thought it sucked. Sorry to offend anyone if I do but it is my personal opinion. That is generally the best version. I doubt you should have upset anyone, it usually takes quite an effort to be both honest and offensive. Why the KJV? I'm more of a NIV man myself, with all the effort that scholars put into it to make it as authentic as possible, instead of tainting it with English politics. It's the best written text- a book should be literature first and foremost and seventeenth century English politics are not terribly subversive today- except where Locke has slipped past the censors. Yes, because religion is all about pretty language! lol Nevermind what the founder of the faith actually said, lets just keep it flourished elegantly. LOL!!! Any demagogue must be eloquent- in religious affairs is it right to capture the word before the spirit?
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:24 pm
PrometheanSet CH1YO Zslone2 King James Edition of Genesis. And i did tell why i thought it sucked. Sorry to offend anyone if I do but it is my personal opinion. That is generally the best version. I doubt you should have upset anyone, it usually takes quite an effort to be both honest and offensive. Why the KJV? I'm more of a NIV man myself, with all the effort that scholars put into it to make it as authentic as possible, instead of tainting it with English politics. And the translation is horrible. Seriously how the hell do you get Sodomite out of male prostitute or witch out of poisoner?
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:26 pm
-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden PrometheanSet CH1YO Zslone2 King James Edition of Genesis. And i did tell why i thought it sucked. Sorry to offend anyone if I do but it is my personal opinion. That is generally the best version. I doubt you should have upset anyone, it usually takes quite an effort to be both honest and offensive. Why the KJV? I'm more of a NIV man myself, with all the effort that scholars put into it to make it as authentic as possible, instead of tainting it with English politics. And the translation is horrible. Seriously how the hell do you get Sodomite out of male prostitute or witch out of poisoner? Sodomy from the trade, sodomite for the actor. Witch for poisoner seems quite fair to me, nefariousness and what not.
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:59 pm
I wouldn't mind, but if you're gonna teach the Bible teach the Old Testament, the Qu'Ran, the DaoDeJing, the Bahà'ì scriptures and secular philosophy to round it up nicely. Some Hinduism and Sikhism would also add to the mix nicely along with some Buddhism, because we have to be fair to everyone, you know.
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:23 pm
There shouldn't be any specific religion taught in schools. They should teach about all of them, so kids can choose what they want to believe without bias. Or just to learn the effects that religions have had on the world. (Including the wars, if you don't mind.)
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:34 pm
I think you should have the option of learning about whatever religion you like, but you have to learn about something. Didn't one of the presidents say it was a bad idea to educate men without morals?
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:50 pm
xxEternallyBluexx I think you should have the option of learning about whatever religion you like, but you have to learn about something. Didn't one of the presidents say it was a bad idea to educate men without morals? Religion =/= morals.
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Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:50 pm
Shiori Miko xxEternallyBluexx I think you should have the option of learning about whatever religion you like, but you have to learn about something. Didn't one of the presidents say it was a bad idea to educate men without morals? Religion =/= morals. They don't exactly teach morals in school either. And for morals, Christanity's Law of Agape, the Golden Rule, and the Ten Commandments are all great places to start, huh?
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