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 Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:57 pm
I was on facebook earlier. There is this cause that wants to force schools to teach the bible in class. Now, I beleive that this is the most idiotic idea ever, mostly becuase christians already have their own schools and camps and what-not. Also, teaching one religion in schools and not every one is quite unjust, especially to the followers of said religions. But it got me thinking about what other people outside of facebook/myspace imbeciles think.
so, I want your opinions please.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:12 pm
Bible should never be in school, ever, unless it's a religious school or a class that the student has CHOSEN to sign up for.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:40 pm
In Medias Res IV Bible should never be in school, ever, unless it's a religious school or a class that the student has CHOSEN to sign up for.
As always, IMR is right.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:45 pm
In Medias Res IV Bible should never be in school, ever, unless it's a religious school or a class that the student has CHOSEN to sign up for. I agree with you In Medias. I feel that it's okay to teach about the Bible in school, but only to use the class as an elective, one that the students can CHOOSE to sign up for, but it shouldn't be used as a required class.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:03 pm
NO BIBLE IN SCHOOL! I'm already being forced to read parts of Genesis in the bible and I'm protesting every minute of it because it violates the law. Only reason I have to read it is because someone figured out the loophole that it can pass off as a work of literature and not converting people when it doesn't and won't be looked at it like that from a non christian point of view. It's completely unfair that I'm being forced to read the bible as a work of literature and then asked questions about it forcing me to partially believe in it. For E.x. I had to read the Creation and Fall from Genesis and then I was asked how the story awe inspired me when it didn't. Like how is that fair to ask?
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:03 pm
Schools have Harry Potter in the classrooms?, but the Bible is not welcome. And we wonder why children are shooting up the schools killing teachers and picking up on every detestable thing that is presented too them. It should be avaiable and elective. Just imagine a society that knew and use the wisdom to follow the ten commandments OR just love others as they loved themselves. can you just imagine.
We offer students how to have safe sex and in the event they don't get it right the first time and pregnancy occours, we will instruct as to how to have an abortion without your parents knowledge or consent. As a matter of fact you can learn almost anything that will satisfy your flesh and possibly destroy it, but by no means can we allow a book that might help you avoid some of the snares of life. That part of our system is stricly for your parents, oh in case your parents happen to lack knowledge of GOD's written word, you'll just have to live without the knowledge. confused
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:06 pm
Um... Quietstorm it's illegal to teach religion in public schools hence a Federal Law in the United States, while I don't know outside the country I know in the U.S it's illegal to teach religion in the public school system. Your allowed to bring the bible into school and read it yourself but your not allowed to make everyone else read it.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:27 pm
quietstorm 2 Schools have Harry Potter in the classrooms?, but the Bible is not welcome. And we wonder why children are shooting up the schools killing teachers and picking up on every detestable thing that is presented too them. It should be avaiable and elective. Just imagine a society that knew and use the wisdom to follow the ten commandments OR just love others as they loved themselves. can you just imagine. We offer students how to have safe sex and in the event they don't get it right the first time and pregnancy occours, we will instruct as to how to have an abortion without your parents knowledge or consent. As a matter of fact you can learn almost anything that will satisfy your flesh and possibly destroy it, but by no means can we allow a book that might help you avoid some of the snares of life. That part of our system is stricly for your parents, oh in case your parents happen to lack knowledge of GOD's written word, you'll just have to live without the knowledge. confused That's because Harry Potter is fiction, not religious.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:43 pm
Zslone2 Um... Quietstorm it's illegal to teach religion in public schools hence a Federal Law in the United States, while I don't know outside the country I know in the U.S it's illegal to teach religion in the public school system. Your allowed to bring the bible into school and read it yourself but your not allowed to make everyone else read it. And by all means it should not be forced but it should certainly have equality to other educational literature. and it good news to know at least it can enter the doors by those who take it in. smile
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:05 pm
quietstorm 2 Zslone2 Um... Quietstorm it's illegal to teach religion in public schools hence a Federal Law in the United States, while I don't know outside the country I know in the U.S it's illegal to teach religion in the public school system. Your allowed to bring the bible into school and read it yourself but your not allowed to make everyone else read it. And by all means it should not be forced but it should certainly have equality to other educational literature. and it good news to know at least it can enter the doors by those who take it in. smile Then the Bible would fall under "mythology class" because that is what it is, mythology. It would NOT be taught as literature.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:08 pm
Tsukiyo Moon Yes Harry Potter is fictional, however it opens the door to witchcraft, which is very real and pratice as a religion in Hatti, its called Voodoo. but thats another and big subject. So as not to change the subject I'm Just saying the Bible opens up a diffrent door and if doors are going to be open, our children should not only be exposed to just ;the bad, the ugly and inbetween; how about some life saving skills (the good).
Someone mentioned the legallity, (some red tape). Well you might have heard about the housing crisis, where people through bad loans lost their homes, the lenders were given permission to rape that system, it was legal, the results were not good. Yes we are to respect the law, but I remember in the bible were Jesus said he did not come to break the law but to fulfill it.
I'll sad use the example where the police car chased the speeding car to stop the speeder from possible hurting him/herself or others; but in the persuit the police have to also break the same law against speeding. sad
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:12 pm
quietstorm 2 Tsukiyo Moon Yes Harry Potter is fictional, however it opens the door to witchcraft, which is very real and pratice as a religion in Hatti, its called Voodoo. but thats another and big subject. So as not to change the subject I'm Just saying the Bible opens up a diffrent door and if doors are going to be open, our children should not only be exposed to just ;the bad, the ugly and inbetween; how about some life saving skills (the good). Someone mentioned the legallity, (some red tape). Well you might have heard about the housing crisis, where people through bad loans lost their homes, the lenders were given permission to rape that system, it was legal, the results were not good. Yes we are to respect the law, but I remember in the bible were Jesus said he did not come to break the law but to fulfill it. I'll sad use the example where the police car chased the speeding car to stop the speeder from possible hurting him/herself or others; but in the persuit the police have to also break the same law against speeding. sad Umm no it doesn't. Prove your statement or shut up. neutral
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:24 pm
quietstorm 2 Schools have Harry Potter in the classrooms?, but the Bible is not welcome. And we wonder why children are shooting up the schools killing teachers and picking up on every detestable thing that is presented too them. It should be avaiable and elective. Just imagine a society that knew and use the wisdom to follow the ten commandments OR just love others as they loved themselves. can you just imagine. We offer students how to have safe sex and in the event they don't get it right the first time and pregnancy occours, we will instruct as to how to have an abortion without your parents knowledge or consent. As a matter of fact you can learn almost anything that will satisfy your flesh and possibly destroy it, but by no means can we allow a book that might help you avoid some of the snares of life. That part of our system is stricly for your parents, oh in case your parents happen to lack knowledge of GOD's written word, you'll just have to live without the knowledge. confused
People have done horrible things despite a religious upbringing or even sometimes in its name.
Kids don't shoot up schools because they are not Christian. And they don't shoot up schools because they read Harry Potter either...
And the ten commandments are a pretty awful code of morals. Almost half of them are bascially "Worship me!"
But it fails to forbid things a lot of things that I think everyone here can agree are morally wrong. Like slavery and selling your daughter. :l (Exodus 21:1-11)
I apologise for mocking the bible to prove my point, but I don't take it back.
It bothers me when people assume that acts of evil are committed because of atheism.
But I do agree that students should be allowed to learn about the bible.
I don't know if I would be so far as to make a class for it. At least not until college.
But I definitely support religious after-school clubs, as long as the school doesn't discriminate by allowing one religious group to have a club and denying another because of its religion.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:34 pm
quietstorm 2 Tsukiyo Moon Yes Harry Potter is fictional, however it opens the door to witchcraft, which is very real and pratice as a religion in Hatti, its called Voodoo. but thats another and big subject. So as not to change the subject I'm Just saying the Bible opens up a diffrent door and if doors are going to be open, our children should not only be exposed to just ;the bad, the ugly and inbetween; how about some life saving skills (the good). Someone mentioned the legallity, (some red tape). Well you might have heard about the housing crisis, where people through bad loans lost their homes, the lenders were given permission to rape that system, it was legal, the results were not good. Yes we are to respect the law, but I remember in the bible were Jesus said he did not come to break the law but to fulfill it. I'll sad use the example where the police car chased the speeding car to stop the speeder from possible hurting him/herself or others; but in the persuit the police have to also break the same law against speeding. sad
I'm 18 now.
Still not practicing witchcraft...
And among people who really do practice witchcraft, I don't think anybody would take you seriously if you were waving a wand around yelling "Accio Book of Shadows!"
And that law is to make it harder to discriminate againts people of other religions.
What about the students who grew up following Judaism or Islam? Or one of countless pagan religions? Do they get a class too?
Good luck getting funding.
Students need to be encouraged to make good choices on their own. And the school can't possibly be expected to teach that.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:26 pm
-Tsukiyo-Moon Maiden quietstorm 2 Tsukiyo Moon Yes Harry Potter is fictional, however it opens the door to witchcraft, which is very real and pratice as a religion in Hatti, its called Voodoo. but thats another and big subject. So as not to change the subject I'm Just saying the Bible opens up a diffrent door and if doors are going to be open, our children should not only be exposed to just ;the bad, the ugly and inbetween; how about some life saving skills (the good). Someone mentioned the legallity, (some red tape). Well you might have heard about the housing crisis, where people through bad loans lost their homes, the lenders were given permission to rape that system, it was legal, the results were not good. Yes we are to respect the law, but I remember in the bible were Jesus said he did not come to break the law but to fulfill it. I'll sad use the example where the police car chased the speeding car to stop the speeder from possible hurting him/herself or others; but in the persuit the police have to also break the same law against speeding. sad Umm no it doesn't. Prove your statement or shut up. neutral Matthew 5:17 do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
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