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Taijutsu and weapon jutsu are very hard to learn in this guild. It takes more posts to learn a stage of a style with two or three techniques than it does to learn a "Stage" of jutsu in some styles. That said, why does it take soooo long to learn tai and ken jutsu but you get nin,gen, and puppeteering much easier.

Referring to the situation that occuredHERE

I am wondering exactly how someone will be able to go about performing Genjutsu if they always have to inform the opponents about the trap. I know from experience that as soon as you mention someone is in a Genjutsu they'll find some bullshit way to escape it by 'noticing' some irregularity in the illusion and then escaping before any serious damage is inflicted.

Not to mention the countless countermeasures[bloodlines, clan's, fighting styles, jutsu] that protect a roleplayer from any Genjutsu.

All I'm trying to say is, if your using Genjutsu you shouldn't have to come out and tell the opponent you are using one. Personally, when I use a Genjutsu I make it seem like a ninjutsu if I can or make them very subtle so as not to alert the enemy.

... Greg, read the jutsu description. It doesn't require a handseal string. It's an E ranked genjutsu, do you really expect someone to spend half an hour running through a bunch of seals for an E rank technique? And that one specifically states that it requires eye contact and a single handseal.

Honestly, even in the anime/manga, you never see people using multiple seals unless they're using a special technique, like the chidori, or a summon, or some high ranked stuff. Usually it's just a single seal. And in RP, it honestly makes no difference whether the seals were made or not as far as the timeline goes, so there's no real point in it.

Actually, no, most jutsu require a string of about five to seven seals. A half hour's worth? There are not 1000 seal jutsu that I know of. Yes, the jutsu requires one handseal be held for activation, but unless you are of the Battle Support shinobi type, all jutsu requires handseals to mold chakra into its jutsu form.

Actually, there are many jutsu that specifically say "Long handsign string" or just "Handsign string", these are the jutsu that require that 5-7 or 10-15 handsign string. Being a support type just halves or nulls the need for those handsigns, allowing the shinobi to move on a fair bit more quickly. The fact of the matter is that 9 times 10, the RPer just states "So-and-So performs a handsign string and then Blablahblah", which means that 9 times out of 10 they skip the time needed for said jutsu. And yet me, only requiring one handsign as the jutsu dictates, am in the wrong...? And before you emtnion it: the intricate hand movements? Me shoving the handsign in your face -_-

The handsign was for you to look at it, thus being captured in the jutsu, to which you completely ignored _-_ So where does it say handseals are required for Chained Mind exactly...? Example time!

Katon: Ichi (Fire Release: One)
Description: The basic building block of a great many techniques down the line, this is presumably the very same skill that began the study of Katons. Molding their chakra through a simple seal of any choice, the user is able to focus it onto the tip of their index finger in the form of heat. With this, they can cut through things such as glass and rope with some difficulty. However, at this stage, control of one’s chakra is so minimal that this technique can only be used by one finger and essentially has no combat use.

Note, it requires a handsign. It indicates the handsign is needed.


Katon: Fukumen no Jutsu (Fire Release: Veil Technique)
Description: A stall technique which really only helps genins in this stage of learning accustom themselves to the less subtle methods of Katons. Performing the necessary seals, the user claps their hand in front of them and a hot white flash erupts from their hands that blind people in the closest vicinities. With this opening, the user is able to make a hasty escape or even move in for a killing blow. The severity of the flash, however, lasts only a moment and causes only spots to appear until an opponent’s sight becomes clear again.

Note the jutsu description states the needed handsign string


Katon: Nenshou Tosshin (Fire Release: Burning Rush)
Description: A two-part technique that acts much like the Katon: Kyuuka no Jutsu. With the same seal sequence as the aforementioned jutsu, the dragon, ox and hare are added at the end and the technique changes from defensive to offensive. As the customary sphere surrounding the user appears to fade out, it instead sweeps back and wraps itself around the user in the elemental shape of flames at the arms and shoulders. At this, the user finds themselves temporarily invigorated.
Note: This jutsu is both defensive and offensive, both blocking attacks and acting as one itself. The secondary effect here is that the user is able to move at a slightly more increased speed than usual alongside the actual flame effects that obviously harm opponents upon contact.

Again, note the handsign string being stated



Katon: Hidoko no Jutsu (Fire Release: Bed of Fire Technique)
Description: Defensive or offensive, this just is simple enough to have many uses. Heaving a mighty breath, a shinobi will spew an oily substance in front or even around them. It will rush forth like liquid and ignite as soon as the user wills it. The effect is obvious enough, resulting in a carpet of flame in whatever manner the user provided. It could be in a cone laid out in front of them as an opponent is rushing forth, or it could be scattered across a weapon.

Note the absence of handsigns being specified



Katon: Hi Shinten no Jutsu (Fire Release: Flame Spread Technique)
Description: This jutsu allows the user to extend the flame from their hand to any weapon or item they may be holding. This creates a surrounding layer of flame around the object, but the object is unharmed. This can only extend to a length of 3 feet maximum, or the length of a medium sized sword.

Again, absence of handsign string.


Now, why would some specifically state the required handsign string for some, and in others not? Because they aren't needed. My original state was flawed: the jutsu types don't follow the String-Medium-Nothing rule, but rather the three types of jutsu contain all three activators.

Ignoring others' points... something you do quite often -_- Which you did. My point, which I've been trying to get into your head, is that no where does it say anything about a handseal, so there's no handsign needed. The handseal was used for, once again, to bring out the whole "LOOK AT ME" thing. MY point, is that the descriptions vary, using other jutsus of similar types and yet vary in description when it comes to handsigns, as I'm trying to point out. Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe, the reason for the absence of needed handsign strings in the jutsu description could very well mean... *Gasp* No handsigns are needed!

And as for you're argument that we're a Naruto guild following common Naruto rules, we'd have the Mangekyo in the guild. We'd have bloodlines being accepted and not being deleted a year later because all of a sudden, without any change from then to now, is suddenly God-mode. We'd have a Guild Leader recognized as a Guild Leader, and Crew as Crew, rather than a Guild Lead as a Guild Lead and a Crew that wants to be and tries to act as the Guild Lead regardless of what anyone says. We'd have multiple people covering multiple things, rather than one person who wants to, says he is, then gets pissed when he's overwhelmed by everything he's trying to cover and does a PMS Ragemode at the nearest innocent Gaian. You use this 'We're a Naruto Guild' as a cover for when it works for you, then turn around and say 'We're not Naruto' for when it doesn't.

All you do, all you EVER do, is make up unwritten rules that everyone is expected to follow, which are all just attempts to control the flow of whatever you are apart of, either it be a particular argument or a certain fight. This isn't the first time you've tried this, but lookie who's the one going back and forth with you... which is what it seems we always and only do. All you ever do is listen to the points that work for you, and ignore what doesn't, because as we've all been taught "If I don't see it, it doesn't exist." Guess what, here, as multiple people, ranging from crew to member, are trying to point out and get past that stubborn head of yours: "If I don't see it, it doesn't exist, If I don't see it, it doesn't exist, If I don't see it, it doesn't exist........ I SEE IT!!!!!!!"

So no, I'm not just riding this out as a "Ok, let this blow over and move on" moment. I'm not backing down with this. I did with the Chakra Manipulation clan, the new profile format where changes that had to be made were harshly judged, and the dragon summoning. I will not let this be the fourth time you have tried to screw me over. I apologize to anyone getting annoyed with this and have actual questions that need to be answered, but neither do I want this to go to PMs again where we will argue, ignore, and not have any communication for six days, where I was suppose to change something without anyone saying so. Nor do I want anyone to be confused as to what is actually being said. Everything is out in the open for all to see.

... Your move ...