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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:40 am
D: I was taught that it's not good, or respectful to 'mix and match' dieties. So, if you want to celebrate Nordic dieties, stick with nordic dieties.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:45 pm
Elusive M D: I was taught that it's not good, or respectful to 'mix and match' dieties. So, if you want to celebrate Nordic dieties, stick with nordic dieties. I see your point there, but I personally think that it's impractical to only honor deities of one tradition. For instance, suppose you have decided to only work with ancient Greek deities. Fine. Well, a few months later you start having some problems cutting down on your chocolate intake. You want to stop eating 2 bars of chocolate a day (BIG bars) and you want to have a little ritual to help you keep your chocolate intake under control. Great idea. Only problem is, you'd like to call on a deity associated with chocolate. The ancient Greeks had no access to chocolate, and therefore had no deity of chocolate. The Aztecs did, but you believe that it's disrespectful to 'mix and match' deities. So, you struggle to keep your blood sugar levels from spinning out of control without any spiritual gidance to back you up. I don't mean to bash what you were taught, that's just my opinion. Personally, I'm perfectly happy with my patron Goddess being Xi Wang Mu and my patron God being the Green Man. I enjoy working simultaniously with Zeus and Quetzalcoatl, Bast and Odin, Brigit and Min. But, to each their own, I suppose.
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:32 am
chilecavy~guineapig Elusive M D: I was taught that it's not good, or respectful to 'mix and match' dieties. So, if you want to celebrate Nordic dieties, stick with nordic dieties. I see your point there, but I personally think that it's impractical to only honor deities of one tradition. For instance, suppose you have decided to only work with ancient Greek deities. Fine. Well, a few months later you start having some problems cutting down on your chocolate intake. You want to stop eating 2 bars of chocolate a day (BIG bars) and you want to have a little ritual to help you keep your chocolate intake under control. Great idea. Only problem is, you'd like to call on a deity associated with chocolate. The ancient Greeks had no access to chocolate, and therefore had no deity of chocolate. The Aztecs did, but you believe that it's disrespectful to 'mix and match' deities. So, you struggle to keep your blood sugar levels from spinning out of control without any spiritual gidance to back you up. I don't mean to bash what you were taught, that's just my opinion. Personally, I'm perfectly happy with my patron Goddess being Xi Wang Mu and my patron God being the Green Man. I enjoy working simultaniously with Zeus and Quetzalcoatl, Bast and Odin, Brigit and Min. But, to each their own, I suppose. If you're having chocolate problems it's probably best to stay away from chocolate related Gods. Instead take it up with your main patron, asking for the strength of resistance or to ask other gods for help.
I dunno, I kinda feel that if I was to devote my time to certain set of Dieties, and suddenly changed my mind and started encorperating many of them, I'd be denying my heratige and making seem as if the Dieties my ancestors worshipped weren't good enough for me.
I still think it's disrespectful to devote yourself to a certain set of pagan sect and then go off and twiddle with other dieties from other pagan sects.
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:40 am
That's a bit silly, don't you think? If you have problems with, say, water, (be it flooding, or contamination, or a simple strange taste) you wouldn't avoid water gods because you need help, or because they don't fit within a set. Rather, I feel that it would be rude to the gods you worship to use them "exclusively", as if they should be cut off entirely from the rest of the divine beings.
Take yourself for example. If I wanted to be friends with someone, and they told me, "Well, you aren't Nordic, so I'm sorry, you're of no use to me." I know I'd be pissed. Wouldn't you? And to not call on someone who knows what you're dealing with is downright foolish. You don't say to someone, "You know to much about the water I'm having trouble with, so I'm going to call on this other god, who doesn't really fulfill the requirements of what I'm asking him to do, but my ancestors worshiped him, so I'm sure it'll be just fine."
Or do you say that...?
Love and Vale, -LD
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:53 am
Well, actually... If you read up on the old Norse people, you'll realise that only blonde haired and blue eyed folks were alowed to be any kind of a religious icon. Anytime you ask a Norse god for help you NEED to give an offering... which mustn't be too big.
And I agree with Elusive M. It's neither respectful or practical to worship gods out of several pantheons. For one thing, you're supposed to know what you're doing, you're supposed to read up on the legends, the myths, the folklore, the traditions, the way they were handled and asked for assistance, any hooks and catches there might be connected to them and so on. Just saying: "Oh he's a god of chocolate" is not good enough.
I centred myself on the Nordic gods, I study Slavic mythology because it is mine. I rarelly ask anyone for help, but if I did, I'd want to know exactly who.
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:15 pm
Yeah.. Heh she got to the point a lot quicker then I did.
Plus I don't mean to offend anyone, but I believe PERSONALLY, not trying to push it on anyone else, that if I choose something, I'm going to stick with it, learn it and apply it. Not flit off whenever I can't get the right answer.
I try not to take the easy way out.
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:57 am
i may sound like a complete idiot here, but it is my belief that most things are universal. Not in the sense that Venus is Aphrodite, but that their representation to a dictated group of people is similar. It seems like there can be an infinate number of names and representations for any given idea. As has already been stated different cultures worshipped/revered their gods in different ways. And I dont want to tread on anyones beliefs.
Personally rather than asking a certain diety for help I do as [Helmorana], I try not to ask for aid but to believe/rely on my inner strength. I prefer to acknowledge an undefined higher power and offer it all of my thoughts or insecurities with the hopes that it will help me clear things up. A wiccan agnostic for lack of better terms.
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:38 pm
I belive in many but personally only use two, one representing feminine and the other masculine.
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Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:01 pm
I believe you can use whichever dieties you wish. As long as you feel comfortable with using a diety I say use it.
I personally have a select few that I use but they come from many different traditions, a few from Celtic since I decend from that area. An egyptian goddess because I have always had an affinity with ancient egypt. And only recently have added a few from Greece. I stay away from Roman because I feel they are a cheap rip off of the Greek. Well they literally are anyway, damn the romans
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