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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:02 pm
Neither. We do what we've always done. Investigate, publish and discuss relevant issues, try to keep things stable, and prepare to do whatever's neccecary to protect Gaia. How is it helping Gaia to hoard info? It should be open to the public, whether we get recognition for it or not.
And "running around with a battle-rifle blowing the streets to hell" is, of course, not an option either. Why do you mention it?
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:03 pm
NikiPound Quinn Cillian Yeata Zi Quinn Cillian Yeata Zi Ummmm.... Neither? We're an information gathering Group. We investigate what is going on..... out in the open. We leave our guild open... and we certainly don't run around with "battle-rifles"...... But what about the trust of the people, Zi? Aren't they who we do this for? Not really. I don't care if they trust us. And neither of teh listed two options will make them trust us.... Are you going to trust a guy with a gun or a guy hiding in the shadows? No. I care that we protect them if we must, aaaaaaaand that we gather enough information to predict problems well in advance. Forget the public. Theyre all so wishywashy. they change their like of us at the drop of a hat. So you do not believe it is beneficial to try to flip that hat the other way? To get them to trust us even a little bit? To, once we gather info, give it to the public? It's not like they are all fools... They ARE Gaia. Whatever happened to 'Your First, Last, and Only line of Defense'? That YOUR is certainly not us. Indeed. In fact, I was initially drawn to the GIB becaue of a post, I think it was in the GCD, about threats from 06 and 11. I thought, "How cool. Here's an organization that finds all the information they can get, and has made a judgement that the public needs to know about this. They're professional, they take initiative, and they feel that the public needs to know about threats. That was why I never bought into that whole "GIB is too secretive" thing. If we withdraw too far from the public, none of us will think to inform them of threats. And that is neccessary. So I think we should take a third option: Watch, theorize, participate, and inform the uninformed. How does that sound? I'm glad you support my ideals... I like yours.
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:06 pm
Quinn Cillian Yeata Zi Quinn Cillian Yeata Zi Ummmm.... Neither? We're an information gathering Group. We investigate what is going on..... out in the open. We leave our guild open... and we certainly don't run around with "battle-rifles"...... But what about the trust of the people, Zi? Aren't they who we do this for? Not really. I don't care if they trust us. And neither of teh listed two options will make them trust us.... Are you going to trust a guy with a gun or a guy hiding in the shadows? No. I care that we protect them if we must, aaaaaaaand that we gather enough information to predict problems well in advance. Forget the public. Theyre all so wishywashy. they change their like of us at the drop of a hat. So you do not believe it is beneficial to try to flip that hat the other way? To get them to trust us even a little bit? To, once we gather info, give it to the public? It's not like they are all fools... They ARE Gaia. Whatever happened to 'Your First, Last, and Only line of Defense'? That YOUR is certainly not us. Some people don't like us, and we can't change that. We can't turn into something we aren't for people that don't even bother to see if we're truly evil or not. The important part is to protect them, even if they get mad at us for trying to do so. Of course it'd be nicer if they liked us, but not everyone will. And, personally, most of our efforts should go to gather information and protect Gaians than into making Gaians like us more. I'd be useless to be the most loved group if we can't tell them all the things they need to know and fail to protect them should danger appear. Not that I'm saying getting a good PR is wrong, just that.. it shouldn't be our priority. I think.
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:06 pm
in all actuality, I was really amused with the general public. one day there is a flock of people trying to kill us all ((and some slight throwing of the cookies)), and then the plot shifts releasing an angry mob of people who can't get in due to there past posts and general mindset. point being, we really should not care about them. they will only make our life a living hell. but, as an Agent it is our duty to inform them even when the cookie has been thrown, and if keeping the guild public is the only way to do it, then why the hell are there so many threads in the main forum talking about a hypothetical action that will stop just a few people from seeing what were talking about.
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:13 pm
The Iron Magus Neither. We do what we've always done. Investigate, publish and discuss relevant issues, try to keep things stable, and prepare to do whatever's neccecary to protect Gaia. How is it helping Gaia to hoard info? It should be open to the public, whether we get recognition for it or not.
And "running around with a battle-rifle blowing the streets to hell" is, of course, not an option either. Why do you mention it? I understand. I did not mean hording it, sir. I simply thought it would be a good idea to at least get some credit for it. But, as SHOULD be custom, what the boss says goes. I will continue to try and help the public. But what you say makes sense. I was not around for all of that. I do not have the knowledge needed to make a wise decision. I apologize. Let us protect Gaia!
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:20 pm
Yes, Quinn. We give our research to the public. But they still won't trust us. I've been down this path before young padawan.
TIM totally said almost exactly what I said.
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:23 pm
Yeata Zi Yes, Quinn. We give our research to the public. But they still won't trust us. I've been down this path before young padawan. TIM totally said almost exactly what I said. I understand, Zi. I am just... I'm a defender of the peace by nature... It's a long story, maybe I'll tell you sometime. I just don't like seeing anyone at all being forgotten or abandoned. The way you spoke made it seem like you were talking about giving up on the GIB credo. I'm sorry.
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:23 pm
Yeata Zi Yes, Quinn. We give our research to the public. But they still won't trust us. I've been down this path before young padawan. TIM totally said almost exactly what I said. Wasn't trying to copy you. XP
Promise.
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:24 pm
The Iron Magus Neither. We do what we've always done. Investigate, publish and discuss relevant issues, try to keep things stable, and prepare to do whatever's neccecary to protect Gaia. How is it helping Gaia to hoard info? It should be open to the public, whether we get recognition for it or not.
And "running around with a battle-rifle blowing the streets to hell" is, of course, not an option either. Why do you mention it? Oh, why thank you for clearing up why we shouldn't go hidden. surprised
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:25 pm
Quinn Cillian Yeata Zi Yes, Quinn. We give our research to the public. But they still won't trust us. I've been down this path before young padawan. TIM totally said almost exactly what I said. I understand, Zi. I am just... I'm a defender of the peace by nature... It's a long story, maybe I'll tell you sometime. I just don't like seeing anyone at all being forgotten or abandoned. The way you spoke made it seem like you were talking about giving up on the GIB credo. I'm sorry. I think a raised eyebrow emote needs to be created. AAAAAAAAND this thread is about ignoring those choices in the first post.... because...it's not the way we roll.
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:27 pm
Quinn Cillian NikiPound Quinn Cillian Yeata Zi Quinn Cillian Yeata Zi Ummmm.... Neither? We're an information gathering Group. We investigate what is going on..... out in the open. We leave our guild open... and we certainly don't run around with "battle-rifles"...... But what about the trust of the people, Zi? Aren't they who we do this for? Not really. I don't care if they trust us. And neither of teh listed two options will make them trust us.... Are you going to trust a guy with a gun or a guy hiding in the shadows? No. I care that we protect them if we must, aaaaaaaand that we gather enough information to predict problems well in advance. Forget the public. Theyre all so wishywashy. they change their like of us at the drop of a hat. So you do not believe it is beneficial to try to flip that hat the other way? To get them to trust us even a little bit? To, once we gather info, give it to the public? It's not like they are all fools... They ARE Gaia. Whatever happened to 'Your First, Last, and Only line of Defense'? That YOUR is certainly not us. Indeed. In fact, I was initially drawn to the GIB becaue of a post, I think it was in the GCD, about threats from 06 and 11. I thought, "How cool. Here's an organization that finds all the information they can get, and has made a judgement that the public needs to know about this. They're professional, they take initiative, and they feel that the public needs to know about threats. That was why I never bought into that whole "GIB is too secretive" thing. If we withdraw too far from the public, none of us will think to inform them of threats. And that is neccessary. So I think we should take a third option: Watch, theorize, participate, and inform the uninformed. How does that sound? I'm glad you support my ideals... I like yours. Thanks. I like my ideals too. ::giggles:: Lauren, it's 2:30 in the morning at night. GO TO BED. Someone help me out here. Please. We need to get up in the morning.
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:29 pm
IlilotIblake The Iron Magus Neither. We do what we've always done. Investigate, publish and discuss relevant issues, try to keep things stable, and prepare to do whatever's neccecary to protect Gaia. How is it helping Gaia to hoard info? It should be open to the public, whether we get recognition for it or not.
And "running around with a battle-rifle blowing the streets to hell" is, of course, not an option either. Why do you mention it? Oh, why thank you for clearing up why we shouldn't go hidden. surprised Are you being sarcastic?
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:31 pm
The Iron Magus IlilotIblake The Iron Magus Neither. We do what we've always done. Investigate, publish and discuss relevant issues, try to keep things stable, and prepare to do whatever's neccecary to protect Gaia. How is it helping Gaia to hoard info? It should be open to the public, whether we get recognition for it or not.
And "running around with a battle-rifle blowing the streets to hell" is, of course, not an option either. Why do you mention it? Oh, why thank you for clearing up why we shouldn't go hidden. surprised Are you being sarcastic?Oh yes. I was being sarcastic. rolleyes : P [/attitude(?)/sarcasm]
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:33 pm
IlilotIblake The Iron Magus IlilotIblake The Iron Magus Neither. We do what we've always done. Investigate, publish and discuss relevant issues, try to keep things stable, and prepare to do whatever's neccecary to protect Gaia. How is it helping Gaia to hoard info? It should be open to the public, whether we get recognition for it or not.
And "running around with a battle-rifle blowing the streets to hell" is, of course, not an option either. Why do you mention it? Oh, why thank you for clearing up why we shouldn't go hidden. surprised Are you being sarcastic?Oh yes. I was being sarcastic. rolleyes [/attitude(?)/sarcasm] The internet is confusing. I can't hear anyone's tone of voice. ::still shoving at her:: Go to sleep! You're too tired to talk to people.
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