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Rustig
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:19 am


Have a go re-reading what he said both times, chief. I think we can truly judge him already. He's being a downright c**t.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:59 am


divinitywolf
i understand your anger and mistrust towards him but give him one more chance to prove himself and after that you can truly judge him.
Or get him to make the video and if he does then let him in. I still have some trust for him.
Perhaps both sides are in the wrong in some places.


No, he had yet ANOTHER chance in the conversations.

Yes, I do understand I am NOT a mod in this guild so my say isn't law, but we do not want people like him in this guild. For the good of the community we are trying to rid ourselves of fluff and lies. The way he has constantly acted towards Josh, the lies he just wont seem to drop, and his immature attitude to having his viewpoint questioned has ended up in him getting chance after chance after chance after chance.

I understand you are his friend, but please, STOP asking for him to get another chance, he doesn't deserve another chance, he's had plenty.


And if FLCL CAN destroy matter with energy:

http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

Tell him to go do that, then donate all the money to MPRILC (or Josh's "To be a God" charity, all the money is going to help Josh become a god, it's going to a good place =D....), then he can have one more chance.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:58 pm


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divinitywolf
i understand your anger and mistrust towards him but give him one more chance to prove himself and after that you can truly judge him.
Or get him to make the video and if he does then let him in. I still have some trust for him.
Perhaps both sides are in the wrong in some places.


No, he had yet ANOTHER chance in the conversations.

Yes, I do understand I am NOT a mod in this guild so my say isn't law, but we do not want people like him in this guild. For the good of the community we are trying to rid ourselves of fluff and lies. The way he has constantly acted towards Josh, the lies he just wont seem to drop, and his immature attitude to having his viewpoint questioned has ended up in him getting chance after chance after chance after chance.

I understand you are his friend, but please, STOP asking for him to get another chance, he doesn't deserve another chance, he's had plenty.


And if FLCL CAN destroy matter with energy:

http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

Tell him to go do that, then donate all the money to MPRILC (or Josh's "To be a God" charity, all the money is going to help Josh become a god, it's going to a good place =D....), then he can have one more chance.


You could probably shoot rainbows out of your a** and it wouldn't be good enough for Randi, but that's entirely off-topic.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:05 pm


Obscurus
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divinitywolf
i understand your anger and mistrust towards him but give him one more chance to prove himself and after that you can truly judge him.
Or get him to make the video and if he does then let him in. I still have some trust for him.
Perhaps both sides are in the wrong in some places.


No, he had yet ANOTHER chance in the conversations.

Yes, I do understand I am NOT a mod in this guild so my say isn't law, but we do not want people like him in this guild. For the good of the community we are trying to rid ourselves of fluff and lies. The way he has constantly acted towards Josh, the lies he just wont seem to drop, and his immature attitude to having his viewpoint questioned has ended up in him getting chance after chance after chance after chance.

I understand you are his friend, but please, STOP asking for him to get another chance, he doesn't deserve another chance, he's had plenty.


And if FLCL CAN destroy matter with energy:

http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

Tell him to go do that, then donate all the money to MPRILC (or Josh's "To be a God" charity, all the money is going to help Josh become a god, it's going to a good place =D....), then he can have one more chance.


You could probably shoot rainbows out of your a** and it wouldn't be good enough for Randi, but that's entirely off-topic.


Wow XD....That gave me a damn good laugh lmao.

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Jaw the un

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:01 pm


You guys suck.
I can't believe this. It's "Compuslive Liar with self esteem issues" versus "Hypocritical Megalomaniac with no pity for the lost"

Like, Death match of the century, gaia gambit style.
How old are you losers anyway?
I mean, come on. Seriously. Take a lesson from the emperor of the united states.

A man in california once declared himself emperor of the US. Instead of launching a war against him, The californians played along, and even printed money with his face on it. He didn't ever ask for anything but just a little respect, which was definitely given, since he had had the balls to do what he did, even if it was completely insane. He died alone, but not forgotten.

Now, i'm new, so there are probably a lot of variables that i am unaware of, but..

The lesson is, This guy, sam, as far as i can tell, was a bit off center with his honesty. I've met lots of people like that. They suck if you take them seriously. If you play along and accept them, then they are just part of the gang. Everyone just has to remember not to believe anything they say, but still love and respect them anyway.
Just like if you had a friend with turrets, or with some other psychological disorder, or some sort of mental retardation that screwed with their social ability.
Anyway, I know i'm way out of line with this, but, well, i couldn't resist. This sucks. What the hell is wrong with you people. Either keep them both or kick them both out. One's just as bad as the other. He just isn't as socially incongruent as sam is.
(interesting side note, i have a cousin named sam, and a cousin named josh. I also have a cousin named jacob who is mentally and physically retarded, but is extremely well liked by most people who know him.)

EDIT
Oh, and one last thing.
Quote:



And if FLCL CAN destroy matter with energy:

http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

Tell him to go do that, then donate all the money to MPRILC (or Josh's "To be a God" charity, all the money is going to help Josh become a god, it's going to a good place =D....), then he can have one more chance.

Forgive my momentary dialect, but,
If any'o yall can do half the s**t you herein claim to, then why in the name of James Friggin Brown, arent you millionaires? huh?
I bet it's a similar answer, and most of you just don't want to put it up here.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:21 pm


Jaw the un
Quote:
And if FLCL CAN destroy matter with energy:

http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

Tell him to go do that, then donate all the money to MPRILC (or Josh's "To be a God" charity, all the money is going to help Josh become a god, it's going to a good place =D....), then he can have one more chance.

Forgive my momentary dialect, but,
If any'o yall can do half the s**t you herein claim to, then why in the name of James Friggin Brown, arent you millionaires? huh?
I bet it's a similar answer, and most of you just don't want to put it up here.


There's a really good article on psipog about Peabrain's (I believe) experience with Randi. The prize is in bonds, not cash. When you ask the organization *anything* about the nature of those bonds, i.e. their maturation date, who backs them, etc. they tell you to play by their rules or STFU. No wonder no one with any skill goes for that challenge: if they can't disrespect you to the point where you just quit during the planning stage, they have their bogus prize that anyone that does a little research can see isn't worth the expense and effort to be tested by their so-called unbiased scientists.

Once again, completely off-topic.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:51 pm


Jaw the un
You guys suck.
I can't believe this. It's "Compuslive Liar with self esteem issues" versus "Hypocritical Megalomaniac with no pity for the lost"

Like, Death match of the century, gaia gambit style.
How old are you losers anyway?
I mean, come on. Seriously. Take a lesson from the emperor of the united states.

A man in california once declared himself emperor of the US. Instead of launching a war against him, The californians played along, and even printed money with his face on it. He didn't ever ask for anything but just a little respect, which was definitely given, since he had had the balls to do what he did, even if it was completely insane. He died alone, but not forgotten.

Now, i'm new, so there are probably a lot of variables that i am unaware of, but..

The lesson is, This guy, sam, as far as i can tell, was a bit off center with his honesty. I've met lots of people like that. They suck if you take them seriously. If you play along and accept them, then they are just part of the gang. Everyone just has to remember not to believe anything they say, but still love and respect them anyway.
Just like if you had a friend with turrets, or with some other psychological disorder, or some sort of mental retardation that screwed with their social ability.
Anyway, I know i'm way out of line with this, but, well, i couldn't resist. This sucks. What the hell is wrong with you people. Either keep them both or kick them both out. One's just as bad as the other. He just isn't as socially incongruent as sam is.
(interesting side note, i have a cousin named sam, and a cousin named josh. I also have a cousin named jacob who is mentally and physically retarded, but is extremely well liked by most people who know him.)

EDIT
Oh, and one last thing.
Quote:



And if FLCL CAN destroy matter with energy:

http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

Tell him to go do that, then donate all the money to MPRILC (or Josh's "To be a God" charity, all the money is going to help Josh become a god, it's going to a good place =D....), then he can have one more chance.

Forgive my momentary dialect, but,
If any'o yall can do half the s**t you herein claim to, then why in the name of James Friggin Brown, arent you millionaires? huh?
I bet it's a similar answer, and most of you just don't want to put it up here.



1. He's WAY off honesty.

2. We shouldn't just "let these people be" THIS IS WHAT ******** CAUSES THE PROBLEM. If we force these people to realize that they will NOT get friends with lies they MIGHT change, either way, we don't have to deal with their bullshit.

3. Sam doesn't deserve respect. No liar does.

4. I DO have video proof of telekinesis, and I DO have people who admit I have healed them, and I DO have people who have felt my energy before and know it's there.

I DO have proof of 90% of my claims that CAN be proved. Sam has 0% proof. Do the research before you open your mouth.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:03 am


Well... I know I'm not the most active poster in this guild (Lurker by nature), but I've read a lot of things by Sam on here, and frankly, I think he's got some serious problems. On several different occasions, I've seen him claim to be several different types of otherkin/vampire/whatever, flaunt his so-called "Radical energy manipulation", and basically make himself out to be some sort of amazingly powerful being. His so-called "1% human" s**t is ridiculous, and to me, it sounds like the template for a crappy anime character. I've read all kinds of things by him in the Kinetics subforum, and I can't vouch for the reliability of those claims (I'm not very skilled in even basic energy manipulation yet, so I still haven't tried them), but from reading everything I've seen of his, he seems like a real jackass. He doesn't seem to be concerned with teaching and helping others as he is with having people stroke his ego.

Yami-no-Albedo


divinitywolf

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:23 pm


ok i have made what i think clear and i wont repeat it.
We have different views and this is for josh to decide now. i dont even know him that well but i guess i just have an impulse to help him. I can still talk to him on msn and all.

Can i see your video proof of telekenisis?

also once again sorry if i annoyed anyone. I just feel strongly for my views thats all. I dont want to have all hell break loose at me. It seems to me all this has already started to turn the guild bad so maybe you guys are right but i said i'd help him and i am.

I think the quicker the decision is made the quicker things can get back to the peaceful way they were before. Now it seems like the guild is just a big massive argument and rave at sam which isn't what this guild is about and i know most joined the guild to learn and talk to helpful, friendly people and i'm not insulting anyone but things do seemed to have hotted up in the atmosphere.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:37 pm


divinitywolf
ok i have made what i think clear and i wont repeat it.
We have different views and this is for josh to decide now. I dont mind if he doesnt get back in that much, i dont even know him that well but i guess i just have an impulse to help him. I can still talk to him on msn and all.

Can i see your video proof of telekenisis?

also once again sorry if i annoyed anyone. I just feel strongly for my views thats all. I dont want to have all hell break loose at me. It seems to me all this has already started to turn the guild bad so maybe you guys are right but i said i'd help him and i am.

I think the quicker the decision is made the quicker things can get back to the peaceful way they were before. Now it seems like the guild is just a big massive argument and rave at sam which isn't what this guild is about and i know most joined the guild to learn and talk to helpful, friendly people and i'm not insulting anyone but things do seemed to have hotted up in the atmosphere.


Of course:

www.shadedgreen.com/downloads/public/malice/telekenesis1.swf

And for the record, my face was covered, no fans or AC was on, I even covered my computer vent. It's not magnetism because it's foil on top of a nail, foil = doesn't attract, and if it was, the nail would be moving too. If air was causing it, the foil would have fallen off the nail because it was barely balancing XD.

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divinitywolf

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:37 pm


Thats really good xd but people could question that by saying you could be blowing it. I've seen proof like that before.
What i'd like to see is someone raise something up in mid air- they could move their hand over the top to prove its not being held up. Then no one could say its fake. Could you do that?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:10 pm


divinitywolf
Thats really good xd but people could question that by saying you could be blowing it. I've seen proof like that before.
What i'd like to see is someone raise something up in mid air- they could move their hand over the top to prove its not being held up. Then no one could say its fake. Could you do that?


Not yet, but I'm trying. =P

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:59 pm


Jaw the un
You guys suck.
I can't believe this. It's "Compuslive Liar with self esteem issues" versus "Hypocritical Megalomaniac with no pity for the lost"

Like, Death match of the century, gaia gambit style.
How old are you losers anyway?
I mean, come on. Seriously. Take a lesson from the emperor of the united states.

A man in california once declared himself emperor of the US. Instead of launching a war against him, The californians played along, and even printed money with his face on it. He didn't ever ask for anything but just a little respect, which was definitely given, since he had had the balls to do what he did, even if it was completely insane. He died alone, but not forgotten.

Now, i'm new, so there are probably a lot of variables that i am unaware of, but..

The lesson is, This guy, sam, as far as i can tell, was a bit off center with his honesty. I've met lots of people like that. They suck if you take them seriously. If you play along and accept them, then they are just part of the gang. Everyone just has to remember not to believe anything they say, but still love and respect them anyway.
Just like if you had a friend with turrets, or with some other psychological disorder, or some sort of mental retardation that screwed with their social ability.
Anyway, I know i'm way out of line with this, but, well, i couldn't resist. This sucks. What the hell is wrong with you people. Either keep them both or kick them both out. One's just as bad as the other. He just isn't as socially incongruent as sam is.
(interesting side note, i have a cousin named sam, and a cousin named josh. I also have a cousin named jacob who is mentally and physically retarded, but is extremely well liked by most people who know him.)

EDIT
Oh, and one last thing.
Quote:



And if FLCL CAN destroy matter with energy:

http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

Tell him to go do that, then donate all the money to MPRILC (or Josh's "To be a God" charity, all the money is going to help Josh become a god, it's going to a good place =D....), then he can have one more chance.

Forgive my momentary dialect, but,
If any'o yall can do half the s**t you herein claim to, then why in the name of James Friggin Brown, arent you millionaires? huh?
I bet it's a similar answer, and most of you just don't want to put it up here.

Don't you EVER compare Sam with Norton I. That man was one of the coolest people who ever lived. (He lived in San Fransisco, btw. And they didn't print money. He just issued Imperial Bonds that people accepted because he was so damn cool.) Sam is not.

Oh, and if you want to go and call me a Hypocritical Meglomanic with no pity for the lost, that's fine. But understand that you just got here, you don't know me, and you immediately start talking s**t. So, you can call me what you like. You just need to be able to back it up, or I will set you on fire. True story.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:59 pm


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divinitywolf
Thats really good xd but people could question that by saying you could be blowing it. I've seen proof like that before.
What i'd like to see is someone raise something up in mid air- they could move their hand over the top to prove its not being held up. Then no one could say its fake. Could you do that?


Not yet, but I'm trying. =P


If you do get that far, I'd really like to see you levitate something, then take two halves of an empty see through 2L bottle, then completely close both halves over the levitated object, then rotating the bottle, all the while still levitating it. Gets rid of just about every means of pretend telekinesis I can personally think of.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:01 pm


Yami-no-Albedo
Well... I know I'm not the most active poster in this guild (Lurker by nature), but I've read a lot of things by Sam on here, and frankly, I think he's got some serious problems. On several different occasions, I've seen him claim to be several different types of otherkin/vampire/whatever, flaunt his so-called "Radical energy manipulation", and basically make himself out to be some sort of amazingly powerful being. His so-called "1% human" s**t is ridiculous, and to me, it sounds like the template for a crappy anime character. I've read all kinds of things by him in the Kinetics subforum, and I can't vouch for the reliability of those claims (I'm not very skilled in even basic energy manipulation yet, so I still haven't tried them), but from reading everything I've seen of his, he seems like a real jackass. He doesn't seem to be concerned with teaching and helping others as he is with having people stroke his ego.

Dude, swear to god I've never seen you. Hope it's just because you are invisible and not because I don't pay attention, but... cool. I have Shadow-Solders who come out of nowhere to back me up in an argument. Super Schweet.
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