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Lust herself

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:04 am


[BlkCat]
Lust herself
[BlkCat]
Lust herself
Ok, now I know i've been the voice if disagreement several times before. BUT! I actually like this idea. biggrin


So...a book teaching magick is fine, but a wiki teaching it is bad? -.-
Well, with wiki it's all out there. with a book you can provide basic and advacned levels to follow in due time,. with a book you hold more control.


No...with a wiki you hold more control, you can change it anytime you want.
wrong type of control, with a book you have more control as to what the reader sees first, with wiki it's on random. i've never been a big fan of wiki anyway though.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:29 pm


Mitsh
This idea reminds me a whole lot of Disinformation 's "The Book of Lies", which was a very sexy idea.

Count me in, I'm all for rambling about chaos magick or postmodern magick (although you could probably write a bit more eloquently in the former of those two, Josh) , and I'm a fair sport for editing/proofreading if need be.


Postmodern magic. It curses, but it curses "ironically".

Blind Guardian the 2nd


Blind Guardian the 2nd

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 5:32 pm


Lust herself
[BlkCat]
Lust herself
[BlkCat]
Lust herself
Ok, now I know i've been the voice if disagreement several times before. BUT! I actually like this idea. biggrin


So...a book teaching magick is fine, but a wiki teaching it is bad? -.-
Well, with wiki it's all out there. with a book you can provide basic and advacned levels to follow in due time,. with a book you hold more control.


No...with a wiki you hold more control, you can change it anytime you want.
wrong type of control, with a book you have more control as to what the reader sees first, with wiki it's on random. i've never been a big fan of wiki anyway though.


You're working on the premise that people will only read books from beginning to end. One of the first things you learn as a student of the text is that most books only have sections you need, and you can understand things perfectly fine by opening up on page 122 and going from there. I quite often read books from the middle onwards, if that is the part which is useful to me.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:08 pm


Blind Guardian the 2nd
Mitsh
This idea reminds me a whole lot of Disinformation 's "The Book of Lies", which was a very sexy idea.

Count me in, I'm all for rambling about chaos magick or postmodern magick (although you could probably write a bit more eloquently in the former of those two, Josh) , and I'm a fair sport for editing/proofreading if need be.


Postmodern magic. It curses, but it curses "ironically".


Like rain on your wedding day. Or a free ride when you've already paid. ;D

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Joshua_Ritter
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:40 pm


Lust herself
[BlkCat]
Lust herself
Ok, now I know i've been the voice if disagreement several times before. BUT! I actually like this idea. biggrin


So...a book teaching magick is fine, but a wiki teaching it is bad? -.-
Well, with wiki it's all out there. with a book you can provide basic and advacned levels to follow in due time,. with a book you hold more control.

Eh. Never been much for overly controlling. Makes you seem juvenile, and I think more often then not it's only children trying to make a little tidbit seem bigger by hiding it. I'm not worried, because I think the stupid and "dangerous" don't have the patience to learn that simple lessons are complicated to know and hard to master, which is why they like to think the get-rich-quick solution is out there instead, being hidden. I mean, how else could it stay so well hidden unless it was something people didn't want to hear? I wouldn't trust every single initiate to keep it a secret if it was, and it would only take one slip. I just think they don't want to hear that progress takes work and there is no way around it.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:55 pm


But ok. Now that I have some brand spanking new mods, hot off the press, I have a bunch of sweet members who are smart and can write, I think we should at least try to get started on this. If you want to write something, do so, if you want to edit, that's fine too, just, if you volunteer for something, for the Love of God, follow through on what you said you would do, or I will be forced to kill you and desecrate the body. Please don't do it.


On a happier note, though, if no one read the proceeding paragraph or has been noticing the last few big writing bits I've done around here, I will volunteer myself to write a modest chapter on common sense and magick, that sort of stuff.

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iolitefire

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:07 pm


I'd love to edit and write a little on spirits! But editing would be something I'd like to do!
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:18 pm


Yeah, I'd like to edit, too. Actually, it's probably all I can do, since I'm not particularly knowledgeable on any specific subject. So any editing I'd do would be pertaining to the work as a piece of literature in general. Grammar, spelling, etc.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:45 pm


Ok, so iolite, if you want to write some on spirits, that would mean we'd at least have a few words on paper, so to speak. I'm sure we'll have a bunch of editors willing to jump in.

And, sidenote, anyone who feels like writing something, tell me here, and when you write it, post it in the writing subforum as "Fragment:, Essay: or Chapter:Whatever" in relation to how much you've written, and on what subject. That way, we'll have a thread to post more related stuff in, and it won't be swept away like in the main forum. If enough is added or joined together, any mod feel free to change the header to Essay or whatever.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:03 pm


Ok, I was thinking about this, and I think the best idea is to appoint an Editor-In-Chief who wouldn't mind writing and jabbing other people to write, to be in charge of the whole project, someone who's around all the time and preferably doesn't have any other job. But if we can't get enough people to work on this, I'll shelve it. I know if I send them out to do it and it doesn't get done, this whole thing will die, and I'm not gonna let that happen.

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Ravenyote


Feral Shapeshifter

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:47 am


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(D; Hey, if people can give me questions and topics to rant on I'll research, and yammer quite a bit. I mean I've been looking for a way to let out all these thoughts I've been thinking in a nice consolidated way, that allows others to have a look over and make sure I'm not spouting nonsense.

I think it might be a little hard to work with me for the idea that, I pretty much ignore most of the usual; and just go from experience, or common sense like tidbits I've picked up over the years. This written another way says: Our beliefs may be different, so we may want to show a few different opinions on the subject.

So yeah. Throw topics at me. o_o; I know at least a little bit on most subjects, but I have a hard time thinking of what to put down first. XD; YOU'VE ALL SEEN MY POSTS FROM HELL! I can go on for ages about things dangit, just need topics!
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 6:59 pm


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(D; Hey, if people can give me questions and topics to rant on I'll research, and yammer quite a bit. I mean I've been looking for a way to let out all these thoughts I've been thinking in a nice consolidated way, that allows others to have a look over and make sure I'm not spouting nonsense.

I think it might be a little hard to work with me for the idea that, I pretty much ignore most of the usual; and just go from experience, or common sense like tidbits I've picked up over the years. This written another way says: Our beliefs may be different, so we may want to show a few different opinions on the subject.

So yeah. Throw topics at me. o_o; I know at least a little bit on most subjects, but I have a hard time thinking of what to put down first. XD; YOU'VE ALL SEEN MY POSTS FROM HELL! I can go on for ages about things dangit, just need topics!

Alright, cool. If you can get us a sweet start on stuff, then maybe we won't need to mothball this idea for a while. I'll probably want you to start simple, so go for, lets say... Energies, shielding, and myriads of types of perception outside the old 5 senses.

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Ravenyote


Feral Shapeshifter

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:29 am


Joshua_Ritter

Alright, cool. If you can get us a sweet start on stuff, then maybe we won't need to mothball this idea for a while. I'll probably want you to start simple, so go for, lets say... Energies, shielding, and myriads of types of perception outside the old 5 senses.
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Alrighty! I'll see what I can do. ^^; I'll probably post what I come up with in a few days or so.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:52 pm


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Joshua_Ritter

Alright, cool. If you can get us a sweet start on stuff, then maybe we won't need to mothball this idea for a while. I'll probably want you to start simple, so go for, lets say... Energies, shielding, and myriads of types of perception outside the old 5 senses.
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Alrighty! I'll see what I can do. ^^; I'll probably post what I come up with in a few days or so.

Danke. I don't know what everyone else thinks, but I think this would be one of the coolest projects ever, should we do it.

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Ravenyote


Feral Shapeshifter

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:01 pm


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I had this big old notepad written about the basics. Shielding, Psiballs, Grounding, and Centering. My Laptop promptly died and I lost it all. b*****d.

However I found a Psiball help bit I wrote a while back for someone in my Guild. Not -that- Helpful but eh, at least it's something more than what looks like complete abandonment. Personally I like starting people with Psi-balls. Gives them a boost of confidence that really helps with the rest.


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Alright then! Psi-balls are our natural energy, pushed into balls in front of ourselves. Firstly sit up straight, posture is good for your energy, it allows it to move freely instead of hitting something like a crink in a water hose. Find something comfortable, but try not to slouch more than necessary.

Personally I enjoy sitting in the 'lotus' position. Basically, grab your right foot, and set it on your left leg,Then pull your left foot and cross your right leg. At first, I know from experience, it's extremely uncomfortable. In fact, a lot of people I know fail to flex that far! Sitting crosslegged is a great sitting pose too.

Alright, all comfy? I'd suggest distractions be removed, like, pausing your music, flicking off the overhead lights, tying your little brother in the closet with duct tape over his mouth, whatever you feel you need to do. I personally like to be in pitch black, but if a little light music is your thing, in some candlelight, go! Do it! This is all about you right now!

Now, put your hands out in front of you, about an inch between them. Can you feel the warmth from them? Maybe a little tingle? That's your energy. For the sake of my brain being unable to spell energy the first time, I'm going to call it chi.

Chi builds up in your stomach, right behind your navel. Yep, you guessed it, when your stomach is digesting food, it lets out energy right from there! So of course it would be the basis of your natural ebb and flow. Can you feel it whirling around in there a bit? Maybe it's just a bit of heavy weight, hovering in the back of your mind. Try to get it to move, maybe push your hands out, and pull them in.

Inside your mind try to feel it making waves, like an ocean, slooowly sweeping across the expanse. It's not even contained in your belly, work it so it's almost out of reach, make it huge if you like! Is it moving? Clench your inner muscles, tense up, that's how I manipulate mine, but you might go for a free flowing approach.

When your chi can move when you tell it too, try to make it oooze up your arms and into your fingertips. A tingling, or heating sensation is what usually happens. If you're putting too much force, you can actually end up with heat rash or boils! You might not heat up at all, it might cool down, or you might feel a heavy weight, that or you might just -know- that it's moving there.

Put your hands out again, maybe you touch your fingers together, maybe not. Just what you want to do is focus your Chi into a little sphere between your hands. A nice happy little circle, push energy in, and knead it like dough. Force it smaller, more dense, heavier. Keep adding Chi until you feel like you've accomplished something.

If you start to feel dizzy, or tired, don't worry much. You've probably expended quite a bit of Chi doing this! Just grab a nice sugary snack to snap you out of the stupor. If you keep forcing yourself beyond your limitations, you can cause your body to wreck revenge against you. You could gain bad health, your previously hidden condition could come into play, you might have a heart attack! As long as you can sense when you're coming to your edge, there's not much of a worry. Just take care of yourself, lay down if you need too.

Afterwards remember, the more often you use your energy, the stronger it becomes. Like a muscle. You can start bouncing the psi-ball between your hands. At one point, I managed to make it strong enough that I -felt- it bounce off my palm. Throw it at the wall, and -see- the splatter like paint, or feel it bounce back to you and catch it. Try to knock someone's hat off while on the bus, use it in everyday life!

At the end of playing however, remember to unclench, and release it back into the 'wild' so that it doesn't hover around bugging you. Try sucking it back into yourself, or if you like, offering it back to the Earth. After all, we eat the plants that grow out of her, so it's only fair we pass her a treat once in a while. ;D


It also seems to help with the basics of making your energy flow. :3 Or at least visualization. There's also an answer to someone who asked the question up top. I tried to help with what I knew already.


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[How can I focus this energy to make it stronger and much more accurate? (Premonitions/Future Manipulation)]

The usual answer is practice. Your psychic strength is something like a muscle, and if you flex it often enough you can make it stronger.

I'd suggest working on randomized cards. Get a pack of poker cards and start by trying to think whether they are red or black. Then move up to which suit, and finally get the number. Practice this often, and at random. So you can do it at whim! If you like, you can ask people to think of a random card from the deck, and see if you can get that right. It's the same thing as left hand or right, but with a lot more variables to work with. Check out car races on TV, which car will win? Maybe Horses. Which stallion do you see winning?

You can also try some things that aren't in your particular field. You're something like a seer, but you use your mind to manipulate things, or see them. Try to get a dice to roll the same number, over and over. Foresee which one it'll do instead for a little variety.

Of course you could also see how far you can see into/manipulate the future. Choose a date on the calendar. What's the weather going to be like? What will the first letter of the first name of the first person you see that day be? Try to push it ahead, until you can see what happens next year!

You also say you dream, premonitions. Try getting lucid dreams. Try to realize you're in the dream, and see if you can manipulate it. If you already can, try and wake yourself up with a pre-decided signal to yourself. Like crossing your fingers, snapping, touching your right ear lobe. See how much of the dreams you remember. Start a dream journal, and write them down every day. Mark on your journal the moon phase, the weather, the date, and what time you are writing it/woke up. Later on, you can look back and see patterns. Maybe you'll see you're stronger on the full moon, or when it's rainy.


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