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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:29 pm
soupygirl Ok converting is a statement that says "i belong to this religion or group" And it's not fair to say that ALL Christians shove religion down people's throats... i don't and i love listening to different ideas... sorry i had to say something... Converting to different religions such as Judism you can marry into it, be born into it, or decide(convert) to become part of the faith... and every religion or group has a "ritual" (if you want to call it that) to become part of that religion. First: The dictionary defines converting as so "To persuade or induce to adopt a particular religion, faith, or belief" Second: I'm fairly certain nobody said that ALL Christians shove religion down people's throats.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:18 pm
In Christianity(or the form I practice atleast) our God asked us to go out to the world, we are supposed to ask the people if they want to hear God's message & continue on if they don't. I've never once met a Christian soliciting religion however, Jehova's witness not included. No one has ever come up to me & said hey can I tell you about Jesus & the Bible? I've been begining to percieve forcable soliciting of religion as a stereotype, I keep hearing people say it happens but I just don't see it. I'm sure it does happen though, I'm sure people can take things too far when it comes to delivering the message.
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 7:20 am
I don't force my religion. However, when I do try to get people to accept Christ, it is out of concern for them not going to Heaven. I mean no harm to them.
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:44 pm
Well, there is that whole "great commission" spread-the-Christianity thing, but I don't really believe in trying to make people accept my religion as their own. I don't really think everyone who believes differently than I will go to Hell, though. I'm not saying it's bad to tell people about Christianity (or any other religion) when they want to hear it, but it just isn't right to try to force anything on anyone.
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:25 am
They feel it's their duty to save people's souls. Usually, they don't mean any harm and they're just trying to be nice- but they can be asses about it (now that's talent).
Door-to-door people can be a little scary though. A Jehova's Witness stalked my stepmom for weeks. gonk And nothing's worse than when they use scare tactics. ZOMG you'll burn in hell!
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 10:06 pm
Kraggus Doomhammer ffdarkangel Proudly_Jewish Judaism discourages conversion to our religion. Aren't people born into Judaism? You can follow the religion without being born Jewish. There is basically a ritual for converting to Judaism. First a person has to ask to become Jewish (They don't go out trying to solicit members.) After they ask they are generally turned away. If they ask again after some time the rabbi will generally ask them questions about the religion and why they want to join. I'm pretty sure I got that all right. If anyone sees any mistakes please fix them for me. You're close. People interested in converting to Judaism have to go to a synagogue and ask a rabbi. By Jewish law, the rabbi is required to make 3 full attempts at changing the person's mind. If after this the person still wants to convert, the rabbi then invites the person to start attending synagogue services regularly and also take special courses to study the religion. Studying often takes several years. When the rabbi finally decides that the convert is ready, a special ceremony is done and if they're male, they have to be circumcized (ouch XD). Otherwise, people are born Jewish. You're considered a Jew if your mum is one.
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 2:57 pm
People don't understand why I have become Buddist, and a lot of my friends are christians. When I tell them it's because it doesn't have a God, it's based on the human, it's tolerant, peaceful and has science in it, they say "well then, who created the Earth?" And I tell them natural formation and they just shake there heads and walk away.
Truthfully, I just don't understand why people must convert. But one reason why I left Christianity is because it condemns anyone who doesn't beleive in it to Hell. And that's most of the worlds population...
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Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:07 am
Well, I know that Christianity tells it's believers that those who don't attempt to convert people are "accountable for their blood". So it strikes fear in some, I suppose. They worry they'll be responsible for people's afterlives.
Other love their religion, and love others enough that they want to share what makes them that happy.
I personally have no issue with people who want to share their beliefs with me. I'm always open to hearing their ideas.
my problem is with people who simply won't drop it when they know I'm not comfortable with the religion, and will not cease to shove it down my throat.
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:41 am
mazarati In answer to your question, from the Islamic point of view: Islam disapproves of "making" people convert to your religion, since finding your beliefs is something you need to do on your own. However, what IS required of Muslims is to spread knowledge about the religion, without forcing people to convert at the same time. Edit: However, we do welcome conversions openheartedly. This is true. Because of that, I personally consider the word "convert" to be only intransitive, and not transitive in that specific context particularly. Basically: One can convert. One cannot be converted (by another individual).
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:34 pm
Kimyanji One can convert. One cannot be converted (by another individual). I really like that way of putting things. And should be true of ALL religions, who think themselves true. After all, how can someone BE a true convert if they did not make that choice and commitment themselves rather than being pushed into it? Like that hymn by William Clegg! Know this, that every man is free To choose his life and what he'll be. For this eternal truth is given, God will force no man to heaven. He'll call, persuade, direct aright, Bless with wisdom, love, and light; In nameless ways be good and kind, But never force the human mind.
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:55 pm
I am actually Christian again, no matter how surprising it may seem XD Um... I havent tried converting people, but if people ask about the Bible or Christianity, I tell them. Along with that, we beleive it is the right way, the correct path, and we want others to come to heaven as well. So... I hope that answers your questions biggrin
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Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:57 pm
Kimyanji mazarati In answer to your question, from the Islamic point of view: Islam disapproves of "making" people convert to your religion, since finding your beliefs is something you need to do on your own. However, what IS required of Muslims is to spread knowledge about the religion, without forcing people to convert at the same time. Edit: However, we do welcome conversions openheartedly. This is true. Because of that, I personally consider the word "convert" to be only intransitive, and not transitive in that specific context particularly. Basically: One can convert. One cannot be converted (by another individual). But if one is Islam and someone becomes Christian, don't a lot of Islam's kill or hurt the convert? Or is that just the radical muslims?
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