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 Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:08 pm
Roobarb I'm not going to rant because I'm trying to be nice to the new series and it has been getting better I think... but... The only thing worse than the fact that all the major plot points were repeats of stuff they'd already done (zombie-esque people, Doctor climbing tall mast, emotions conquering all, pig people, love between human and alien...) was the absolutely terrible science! I'm not asking for much, I'm a sci fi fan I take all sorts of science crap, but since when does lightning transfer DNA??? I didn't mind them mixing DNA up in a test tube and injecting it... fine... but lightning? Plus, even if the zombie-Dalek-humans (who walk suspiciously like Cybermen...) had Timelord DNA, why would that stop them obeying orders? Timelords are suckers for obeying orders! They didn't absorb the Doctor's memories or feelings did they? They couldn't! *sobs* And I agree with whoever asked why the heck they were walking Sec round like a kinky sex slave dog... Eh? P.S. I know that's a rant. I'm sorry. It wasn't lightning. It was the discharge of a fuppin' great solar flare. Apparently these are a legitimate form of magic o_o
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:34 pm
Roobarb I'm not going to rant because I'm trying to be nice to the new series and it has been getting better I think... but... The only thing worse than the fact that all the major plot points were repeats of stuff they'd already done (zombie-esque people, Doctor climbing tall mast, emotions conquering all, pig people, love between human and alien...) was the absolutely terrible science! I'm not asking for much, I'm a sci fi fan I take all sorts of science crap, but since when does lightning transfer DNA??? I didn't mind them mixing DNA up in a test tube and injecting it... fine... but lightning? Plus, even if the zombie-Dalek-humans (who walk suspiciously like Cybermen...) had Timelord DNA, why would that stop them obeying orders? Timelords are suckers for obeying orders! They didn't absorb the Doctor's memories or feelings did they? They couldn't! *sobs* And I agree with whoever asked why the heck they were walking Sec round like a kinky sex slave dog... Eh? P.S. I know that's a rant. I'm sorry. Didnt they indicate that the bodies had already been injected with the Dalek DNA and the lightning just sorta zap em to life. There was a frankenstein movie out in the 1930s.. it's probebly a sort of parody. The whole "Time Lord DNA" is what i'd be ranting about =/ i mean.. double you tee eff. How'd he manage THAT. No wonder kids these days are stupid if they're being taught that DNA is transfered through Lightning. I'd give a lecture on the whole Solar Flare + Lightning logic and how that works. But there's no reasoning with Doctor Who anymore. The whole conclusion to the plot was stupid, confusing and irritating. The whole episode sung of confusing-cybermen. They took Daleks and ruined them.. AGAIN. The confidential is equally annoying. They choose to focus on scenes which last like.. 2 seconds and you honestly don't give a toss about. You think they would've bothered to explain more on the plot and the reasons rather than "Oh hey look guys! We filmed outside Cardiff LAWLZ". Btw Sec the gimp was pointless but amusing and WTF. I really liked him D: he was strangely cute. heart He was annoying, but also loveable. Awwwww~
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Hairy Priest Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:30 pm
The Daleks have once again become wussified. Bleh. This was the worst story I've seen since the start of New Who.
Since when did the Doctor become super-indestructible? The guy's had his blood sucked out through a straw, absorbed lethal doses of radiation, and now survives getting zapped by enough electricity to fry a small mob of pig-men. Is this really the same guy who regenerated after bumping his head on the TARDIS console?!
The show really needs a scientific consultant and a competent script editor.
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:20 am
'They're vulnerable, and that makes them more dangerous than ever! '
Didn't the ninth doctor say something suspiciously similar about insane daleks in the first series? >.>
And didn't those same insane daleks splice themselves with human DNA to keep their species alive?
The more I think about this episode the less convinced I become about any of it xD
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:26 am
I would just like to say that I know the lightning brought the bodies to life Frankenstein-style and I have absolutely no problem with that! What I have a problem with is the Doctor saying that his DNA got transferred via the lightning into the bodies just cos he grabbed hold of the rod. It wouldn't work. Plus, if it did work, surely by the same principle they'd all be full of angry pig men DNA too since the pigs got zapped in the elevator?
And yeah... the Doctor does seem to have improved his indestructibleness since his 6th incarnation... and all the others come to that. But I can't complain too much, I'd have been really annoyed if he'd regenerated! Tennant must serve his time.
EDIT: Here's a thought, if DNA can go through lightning why didn't they just jam a Dalek up there on top of the Empire State Building? That way when the Doctor clambered up to interfere with their plans it could have just shot him.
EDIT 2: Silly Doctor! I've just realised how he could have solved all these problems. He could have taken off one of his lovely rubber soled shoes and stuck IT on top of the lightning pole! Duh. Instant insulation.
Well... we are in the realms of psuedo science here...
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:02 am
"More power, Igor!"
With that out of the way, I suppose I probably ought to say something about the episode itself. I enjoyed this episode, though I definitely don't think it was quite as good as the last one. I did rather like Dalek Sec though - I had certainly never expected him to become quite that in touch with his human side. He was definitely a pretty radical thinker as far as Daleks go.
One thing I did like was Sec's little Davros reference ("I am your leader! You will obey me!").
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Hairy Priest Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:21 am
Regarding the Time Lord DNA transmitting through electricity bit, one possible explanation I read somewhere is that this occurred because of the Dalekanium. Similar to the way Rose managed to genetically contaminate (and magically power up with spiffy Time Travel Mana particles) the not-really-the-last Dalek back in Series 1.
The Daleks using pig-slaves instead of robomen (like in Dalek Invasion) makes even less sense now that it's been revealed they have such a short lifespan. Why bother?
And just what happened to all those Dalek exterminator rifles at the end of the story? Did the Doctor and Martha collect them all (as well as any other traces of advanced Dalek technology) before hopping back into the TARDIS?
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:11 am
Hairy Priest And just what happened to all those Dalek exterminator rifles at the end of the story? Did the Doctor and Martha collect them all (as well as any other traces of advanced Dalek technology) before hopping back into the TARDIS? Yeah, what did happen to the tommy exterminators?
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:55 am
And did anyone else wonder why on earth they would bother giving them rifles that are so awkward and bulky just so they would look like Dalek-lazerz..?
Martha annoyed me a lot. And the whole plot-continuity..? LACKING. And also, does he have to "die" in EVERY EP??? He's "died" in more than half of series 3, though I agree, he has to stick around cos I, too, love David Tennant... they just need some script-adjustment, especially so that Rose/Martha can be different people!!
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:37 am
ogs-chan And did anyone else wonder why on earth they would bother giving them rifles that are so awkward and bulky just so they would look like Dalek-lazerz..? Because they were in the 30's, so there were an effectively inifinite supply of tommy guns, and putting egg whisks on them makes them shoot death rays. Duh.
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:56 am
Crumpet Lord ogs-chan And did anyone else wonder why on earth they would bother giving them rifles that are so awkward and bulky just so they would look like Dalek-lazerz..? Because they were in the 30's, so there were an effectively inifinite supply of tommy guns, and putting egg whisks on them makes them shoot death rays. Duh. Ah, I get it now... (I really shouldn't post when I'm insanely tired...) but I've always wondered why egg-whisks..? And what does the other thing do?? There's the blue telescope thing on top and there's a plunger and an egg-whisk... Hm... ninja
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:02 pm
Obviously Davros wanted to make sure his minions could make scrambled eggs and fix his toilet when it got stuck. It's pretty tough living in an underground bunker.
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Hairy Priest Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:21 pm
Silly thought just struck me...
Smith And Jones - Doctor gets temporarily "killed" by the Plasmavore. Doctor's costume, blue suit.
Evolution of the Daleks - Doctor gets electrocuted, resulting in temporary "death". Doctor's costume, blue suit.
Just don't wear the blue suit!! lol
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:49 pm
Clearly the Doctor has a death wish.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:18 am
ogs-chan Crumpet Lord ogs-chan And did anyone else wonder why on earth they would bother giving them rifles that are so awkward and bulky just so they would look like Dalek-lazerz..? Because they were in the 30's, so there were an effectively inifinite supply of tommy guns, and putting egg whisks on them makes them shoot death rays. Duh. Ah, I get it now... (I really shouldn't post when I'm insanely tired...) but I've always wondered why egg-whisks..? And what does the other thing do?? There's the blue telescope thing on top and there's a plunger and an egg-whisk... Hm... ninja Apparently, when the suits are empty they get pulled round by the crew pulling on the egg whisk. Which is why the original daleks had slightly bent-in ones. Due to shoddy workmanship. Speaking of. Was anyone else amazed at the short amount of time that Martha needed to set that roast-the-pigmen trap up? If anyone else tried it, things would have fallen over. Oh, the magic of TV.
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