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Belladonna 2086

PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:29 am


In the sixth book, Snape was saying that he personally knew of Voldermort's plans for Draco. I think that was a load. I think he knew of something that involved Draco, but he didn't know for sure what that task was to be. Doesn't anybody remember how Ms. Rowling described Snape's face when he had to kill Dumbledore? That description didn't sound like that of someone who knew of the grisly details of Voldermort's plan. And in the beginning when he made that Unbreakable Vow to Draco's mom? He vowed that if Draco couldn't go through with that task, then he himself would. And when the time came, he had to finish what that spineless twerp couldn't, otherwise he would be the one dead.
Those are just a few of my thougths on the subject, and I can't wait until the book surfaces....you just know it'll be a huge hit! Those books are a legend in their own time...
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:14 pm


Those are some good points *ponders all of them*

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:58 pm


oh good points you all thought things through when of course you can see I didn't!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:47 pm


Haha,it helps to hear other peoples thoughts,cause i can forget alot of things xD

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:21 pm


I'm with the people that think that the final horcrux? is within Harry's scar. I'm fairly certain that Harry has to die, but it could go either way. Promising to kill off a key character doesn't mean it has to be the good guy. It could very easily be Ron or Hermione or even Ginny. I mean she has come up in the story by a great deal.
Draco is a pretty major character as well. Every hero needs a rival so they'll have something to aspire to.
Also, when I really think about it, what does Harry really have left to live for at the end of Book Six? Really?
Your parents are dead. Your one chance of a happy psuedo home life is dead. There is no telling that your girlfriend won't be captured and tortured, possibly to death, by your enemy's followers. He's currently the ultimate in cursed souls.
And I know that Ron had a crush on Hermione, but did they have to add so much innuendo in the movies? I even believe from the books that she has or had a little fling for him, but am I the only one that thinks their overshooting this just a little?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:15 pm


YoTeAmo

You can tell in the 6th book that Harry Potter will die in the last book. The author set it up to end like that. If you recall, in the book that Sirius dies in, the prophecy said, "Neither can die while the other lives." That means that they both will die. Harry will probably figure out what the prophecy says and will die in the attempt to kill Voldemort.


I'm proving my nerdiness, but I believe it is "Neither can live while the other SURVIVES," which I think has a lot to do with the horcruxes. If it was "lives," and the prophecy were true, then one of them would have to be dead right now! Voldemort is merely surviving, what with pieces of his soul scattered all over the world. I personally believe Harry will finish him off.

On other note, I'm fairly certain that JK would never give away something as important asa character dying, before the book comes out. Her publishers would never let her get away with it. Harry's death is possible, even probable, but not certain. If you check the rumors section of JK's site, I'm sure it's in there.

*steps off my nerdy soapbox* I have a lot of opinions about books.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:17 pm


Aaaand... Dumbledore and Sirius are definitely dead. Harry has to finish this alone.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:44 pm


So many good points and fatcs are being stated. But,theres only one way to find out for sure,and that comes in July,the realease of the final book!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:27 am


Enheritance
So many good points and fatcs are being stated. But,theres only one way to find out for sure,and that comes in July,the realease of the final book!


Word.

I'm so excited that it's hard not to speculate, though.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:44 pm


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Enheritance
So many good points and fatcs are being stated. But,theres only one way to find out for sure,and that comes in July,the realease of the final book!


Word.

I'm so excited that it's hard not to speculate, though.

Haha 'word' xD Ahem.

Im the same way! I just cant stop thinking of every posibility that might happen.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:39 pm


Enheritance
lunas_maximus
Enheritance
So many good points and fatcs are being stated. But,theres only one way to find out for sure,and that comes in July,the realease of the final book!


Word.

I'm so excited that it's hard not to speculate, though.

Haha 'word' xD Ahem.

Im the same way! I just cant stop thinking of every posibility that might happen.


sweatdrop Yes, 'word.' I try to sound intelligent but I'm really not, stuff like that slips through all the time. =p

I've really never been so excited about the release of a book. Mostly cause the stuff I like is already published, but, well. I'm excited. There are so many possibilities! JK is one tricksie woman.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:42 pm


lunas_maximus
Enheritance
lunas_maximus
Enheritance
So many good points and fatcs are being stated. But,theres only one way to find out for sure,and that comes in July,the realease of the final book!


Word.

I'm so excited that it's hard not to speculate, though.

Haha 'word' xD Ahem.

Im the same way! I just cant stop thinking of every posibility that might happen.


sweatdrop Yes, 'word.' I try to sound intelligent but I'm really not, stuff like that slips through all the time. =p

I've really never been so excited about the release of a book. Mostly cause the stuff I like is already published, but, well. I'm excited. There are so many possibilities! JK is one tricksie woman.

Haha no worries,i do that all the time,myself xD

Same for me.July couldnt come any sooner!! There are so many questions that need to be answered in just one book.And,from the past lengths,the 7th definatly wont be less then 700pgs.If it is,i'll be shocked.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:37 pm


Please don't shoot me for this post, I know I will tick off people but I am just voicing my opinion on the matter.

I am sick and tired of this Harry potter craze. Sure it is a great book, and I love JK for getting so many people into reading.

BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

I have too many people running around in azkaban shirts at my school. Too many people with Hogwarts scarves from varied houses. Too many people running around with all the Harry potter junk they can get. I am sick and tired of this fashion crazed book. MAKE IT STOP! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Seriously! My friends came to summer school wearing cloaks and mourning make-up the day after the 6th book was out because he died! Sorry, but that's just stupid.

On another, more topic friendly, note:

My English teacher says that Voldemort is going to die, and that JK can't touch a hair on Ron or Hermione's head. Harry, however, is fair game, mostly. Wile she can't kill Harry, she can do almost whatever she wants to him because "there are three things that sell; love, sex and violence."~ My English teacher.

And personally, I will just have to walk around with ear plugs for ages so I don't hear the spoilers pouring out from every open mouth before I read the book. Because I am not paying sixty five dollars for a book I probably will only read once. And the only reason I will read it in the first place is so I don't get weird looks when people spout out references to the book.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:10 pm


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YoTeAmo

Actually, I do not think that Dumbledore is dead. I think that Snape faked killing him to place Dumbledore into hiding. Why else wouldn't he try to kill Harry as well?



Hmmmm. Now that is an interesting concept there. Dumbledore always trusted Snape, and took up for Snape. So, that could be a possibility. I loathe the thought of Harry expiring. I was always disappointed that Harry and Hermione didn't hook up; early on I thought they would. I love Ron too though, so whatever happens...happens I guess. The book will definitely be a page turner.

I agree,that is an intresting theory.
I'll also be upset when/if harry does infact 'expire' as you put it,but like a former statement said about the prphecy,it seems unlikely he'll live.
About Hermione and Harry though,i was always glad is was Ron instead,lol.
I don't think Dumbledore would fake die as he don't want the school to be shut down. And Snape wanted Draco to kill dumledore. Maybe Snape knew Draco wouldn't be able to do it... But it's right Snape really had a haste getting up in the tower. Maybe because he didn't want any of the others to kill him at real first. Anyeone who remember if Snape said the spell loudly or did it quietly? If he did it quietly there could still be a possibility he cast another spell. But as I said in the beginning, I think dumbledore would die rather that see the school be shut down. So I don't think he did it to place him into hiding but maybe to fool the other, how do you say in english? Dead eaters? That's my correct translation from swedish.

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Annikaya

PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:00 pm


I think some of you have forgotten that Snape took an unbreakable oath that said he had to kill Dumbledore if Draco Malfoy failed. That means that if Snape didn't kill Dumbledore, he would die. I think, based on this, that it's pretty clear that Snape really did kill Dumbledore. He could still be good though; Dumbledore could have been asking Snape to do it when he said "please." Dumbledore would be the type to sacrifice himself for a student, even one that's headed down the wrong path.
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