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DT-Natalia

PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:13 am


AkureiKnight
Well I dont doubt that you could take it. I just thought I'd offer since we're both in NC. You wouldn't have to go far if you did need some place to stay. 3nodding

Otherwise, like I said before. We are all here for you if you need us. whee


Thank youuuuu crying *hug*
PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:56 am


Duct-Tape-chan
AkureiKnight
Well I dont doubt that you could take it. I just thought I'd offer since we're both in NC. You wouldn't have to go far if you did need some place to stay. 3nodding

Otherwise, like I said before. We are all here for you if you need us. whee


Thank youuuuu crying *hug*


smile You're welcome (hugs)

AkureiKnight


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:11 pm


AkureiKnight
Duct-Tape-chan
AkureiKnight
Well I dont doubt that you could take it. I just thought I'd offer since we're both in NC. You wouldn't have to go far if you did need some place to stay. 3nodding

Otherwise, like I said before. We are all here for you if you need us. whee


Thank youuuuu crying *hug*


smile You're welcome (hugs)

Nice place to stay, nice warm bed, nice warm... other things... xd rofl
PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:42 pm


neoncode
AkureiKnight
Duct-Tape-chan
AkureiKnight
Well I dont doubt that you could take it. I just thought I'd offer since we're both in NC. You wouldn't have to go far if you did need some place to stay. 3nodding

Otherwise, like I said before. We are all here for you if you need us. whee


Thank youuuuu crying *hug*


smile You're welcome (hugs)

Nice place to stay, nice warm bed, nice warm... other things... xd rofl
Fire? XD

Wolf Kazumaru


Bishop_Aldweiss

PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:50 pm


Wolf Kazumaru
neoncode
AkureiKnight
Duct-Tape-chan
AkureiKnight
Well I dont doubt that you could take it. I just thought I'd offer since we're both in NC. You wouldn't have to go far if you did need some place to stay. 3nodding

Otherwise, like I said before. We are all here for you if you need us. whee


Thank youuuuu crying *hug*


smile You're welcome (hugs)

Nice place to stay, nice warm bed, nice warm... other things... xd rofl
Fire? XD

lol

On a more serious note-@Duct-Tape-Chan: It doesn't matter how much money your mother spends on this...endeavour... The success and failure all depends on you. You DO have the right to refuse to cooperate with the counselor. It doesn't matter what treats or bribes they attempt to use, that's all there is to it.

Also, I have serious doubts that any respectable counselor would do anything that risks your mental health in the long run. Out of EVERY "turned straight" case I've seen where the victim is "turned straight", it's nothing more than brain-washing (with the victim is doing nothing more than lying to themselves every day of their lives). Which often, I might add, unravels latter down the line. Leading to sever mental, physical, and social health complications when everything falls apart as the person reverts back to their natural sexuality.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:54 am


Gosh, That's awful. Dx

This is exactly why I'm not going to come out to my parents.

It's just not going to happen. Because, if sending me to counseling is the worst that they'd do, i'd be lucky. They'll most likely kick me out....

Oh well. I can stand being in the closet for a few more years.

Anyway, don't worry, everything will turn out alright. And remember, if you ever need anyone to talk to, like I'm sure i've mentioned before, feel free to PM me. ^_^

Holy Roman Empire


DT-Natalia

PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:47 pm


A.Dream.Within.A.Dream.
Gosh, That's awful. Dx

This is exactly why I'm not going to come out to my parents.

It's just not going to happen. Because, if sending me to counseling is the worst that they'd do, i'd be lucky. They'll most likely kick me out....

Oh well. I can stand being in the closet for a few more years.

Anyway, don't worry, everything will turn out alright. And remember, if you ever need anyone to talk to, like I'm sure i've mentioned before, feel free to PM me. ^_^


Yeah, that was my plan ;_; until my mother 'shoved me out of the closet by force' i guess you could say.

And no, Yondara-san, I will NEVER cooperate with anyone trying to brainwash me. D: I shall unleash a can of DOOM UPON THEIR FAMILY. Or, you know, maybe just protest.. or something....

A group of friends and I are planning to definately participate in the Day of Silence this year. At school people know me as an avid gay-rights supporter, though, not a lesbian. Just warming them up to that side so they won't be too shocked if or when they ever find out. But yeah. the 26th will be an interesting day. Think I should tell my mom the reason i won't be talking that day, or make up some excuse?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:34 pm


Just dont talk to her at all. Let her guess and get pissed at the thought of you ignoring her. She loves you (despite how it seems) and she wont hurt you over not talking to her. Then after you can tell her what point you were trying to make. I think I'd come across better if you did it like that.

But it's up to you and what you want to do. If you feel you need to tell her then do so.

AkureiKnight


DT-Natalia

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:57 am


Oh boy, folks, an update.

My mom really did it yesterday. That was the last straw.

If you look in the writing/art subforum you'll see that i've been working on a manga. Shojou-ai, of course. I always keep it in my purse(coughcough, bodybag, cough). And, guess what. It turns out my mother went through my purse, found my art book, and read it all. I guess you could say we had a little 'talk', with her doing most of the yelling, me doing most of the glaring. She hardly gave me a chance to speak. I was unbelievably pissed at her. So I told her that since she pissed me off and is unreasonable, and since she thinks my art talent is such a gift to be "wasted" on so-called crap like my manga, I quit. I quit any art that isn't for school, and even that will be half-assed work. She didn't believe me, but I'll show her what her stupid closed-minded-ness and nosy-ness has done. And the Day of Silence will be a breeze, since I'm never talking to her again anyways, at least for a while. She makes me SO SICK. Literally. I actually almost threw up a few times yesterday. If we didn't have family over, I would've jumped out my window and gotten some fresh air.. for several hours. Thankfully she works all week, and I have this week off to go on the computer, read, whatever. Hooray spring break. School is stressful, sure, but at least that'll be a break from my mom as well.

So, if any moderators feel my now worthless manga thread in the writing/art subforum is just taking up space, feel free to delete it, or, something.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:19 am


Damn her..

I say do what you got to do.. but I'd rather you not give up on a talent that you have. Dont let her take everything just because she took one part of who you are. (hugs)

AkureiKnight


Holy Roman Empire

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 10:58 am


AkureiKnight
Damn her..

I say do what you got to do.. but I'd rather you not give up on a talent that you have. Dont let her take everything just because she took one part of who you are. (hugs)


I agree.

I understand you're upset, but, giving up doesn't seem like a proper solution...

But, What the hell do I know? Maybe i'm wrong...

I'm just sure there's got to be a better way to prove your point.

I still can't believe anyone would do something like that. I'm so sorry. -hugs-
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:31 pm


******** her! You shouldn't give up on art because she's a b***h. That's what she wants. Do not give her that damned satisfaction!

hazellazer
Captain


Trish the Stalker

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:09 am


The poor woman sounds terrified. Why does she think it's wrong? Why does she want you fixed? Is she religious? She needs to find it in herself to have a rational talk with you, and also to read the articles in SUPPORT of homosexuality and say why they're wrong. If she can't find anything wrong with the articles in support of it then she's missing the point. You can argue for hours and hours that the newly implemented neighbourhood watch is the reason your house hasn't been robbed, or you can look at the fact that your house hasn't been robbed before they put it into effect. To understand an argument she must see both sides.

I think she's a stupid woman, but she's obviously just afraid because her beliefs are being challenged and its easier for her to believe she can change you than for her to change her beliefs (it's true: it takes about 15 years to completely change most people's beliefs on certain basic elements of their belief system).

If anything, explain to her that counselling is probably not going to help and most likely make things work. Perhaps you can promise to try it for her if all else fails. Tell her if it doesn't work (which it won't) after so many visits that you won't do it anymore. It'll probably be hell to put up with it but it might make a point to your mother.

You sound like you're stubborn (I am too, don't take this negatively) like your mother and the only thing that will end this is one person admitting they won't fight anymore (and even if she's wrong, she doesn't seem to want to give up). I don't think that was the best recommendation, but if you run out of ideas or perhaps a home and don't have anywhere to go, it might be worth a shot.

PS: About the art thing, I'd say take some paint and paint some nice shoujo-ai all over your bedroom walls if she really does something horrible. It'd be a nice touch to do it the night before she ships you off to counselling if you end up being forced into it.

Also, do you have your art online? I'm not really a fan of slash type works but it'd be cool to check out your talent.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:02 pm


LaBelleIsolde
The poor woman sounds terrified. Why does she think it's wrong? Why does she want you fixed? Is she religious? She needs to find it in herself to have a rational talk with you, and also to read the articles in SUPPORT of homosexuality and say why they're wrong. If she can't find anything wrong with the articles in support of it then she's missing the point. You can argue for hours and hours that the newly implemented neighbourhood watch is the reason your house hasn't been robbed, or you can look at the fact that your house hasn't been robbed before they put it into effect. To understand an argument she must see both sides.

I think she's a stupid woman, but she's obviously just afraid because her beliefs are being challenged and its easier for her to believe she can change you than for her to change her beliefs (it's true: it takes about 15 years to completely change most people's beliefs on certain basic elements of their belief system).

If anything, explain to her that counselling is probably not going to help and most likely make things work. Perhaps you can promise to try it for her if all else fails. Tell her if it doesn't work (which it won't) after so many visits that you won't do it anymore. It'll probably be hell to put up with it but it might make a point to your mother.

You sound like you're stubborn (I am too, don't take this negatively) like your mother and the only thing that will end this is one person admitting they won't fight anymore (and even if she's wrong, she doesn't seem to want to give up). I don't think that was the best recommendation, but if you run out of ideas or perhaps a home and don't have anywhere to go, it might be worth a shot.

PS: About the art thing, I'd say take some paint and paint some nice shoujo-ai all over your bedroom walls if she really does something horrible. It'd be a nice touch to do it the night before she ships you off to counselling if you end up being forced into it.

Also, do you have your art online? I'm not really a fan of slash type works but it'd be cool to check out your talent.


yes, my stuff can be found here.

Wow, i wasn't expecting such a long comment o: And yes, she's extremely religious. It's horribly annoying, I'm sick of religion. I really don't believe in or care about god anymore. I'd love to put shojou-ai all over my walls but see, this is only between me and my mother. The rest of the family has no idea, but i know for a fact that they'd be on her side if they ever found out. I already keep telling her that councelling will only make things worse, but she insists that a shrink will fix anything.

And lately I've been having worse depression problems, feelings I've not felt for a while, maybe not since middle school. Explanation? Well, first off, there was an exchange student from Italy at my school last year. Her name's Laura, and I'm crazy about her. She never gets online, and called me once but i wasn't there to answer the phone. The message she left me has been saved on my phone for months now. cry A photo of her can be found here. She's so beautiful, and lovely and kind and fun to be around. But she left last November, went back home to Italy. I've missed her so badly. And lately, my best friend Caroline has been in England, also for an exchange program. Laura got to stay with Caroline for a week this month. They talk on the phone a lot. I feel like a horrible, jealous person. But it's just like before, when Caroline got all the guys. Back when every guy i thought i might like fell for her and ignored me. It's been like that since the seventh grade, and i felt so shitty. And now it's coming back. I love Laura so much, but she gets to spend so much time with Caroline. I'm so sad i could throw up. I've been feeling like that more and more often lately. And during hard times, I'd always be able to stay with Caroline at her house, but now I can't because she's in England. I hate everything that's going on right now. There's more to say but I don't feel like typing anymore for a while. Maybe later. sad

DT-Natalia


DT-Natalia

PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:03 pm


BakaTulip


See, that's just it. She'll hate it if I stop art. It'll make her feel horrible, which will make me feel happier.
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