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 Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:57 am
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:58 am
YahuShalum Well my post is moot because you're just an atheist. So yeah I'm just not going to feed you. Atheists can't have opinions on religious matters?
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:01 pm
DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck Look, I'm an atheist, so I don't really give a damn about this particular topic, but I'm just curious about one thing. If you think we're all whack-jobs, what are you doing here? stare You notice the trolls recently too? lol Unfortunately, yes. xp However, I'm thus far unsure about whether or not she's a troll. ninja No it's a classic troll. Just coming in here to stir up trouble without backing herself up with anything more then nu uh I'm right your wrong. She came in with the argument I didn't. She's the one that has to prove the point I don't. (Since I'm not the one making claims.) Anything I'd present she'd fight and she's already trying to win something saying I conceded due to a lack of response. I'm not here to "Win" an argument like she is.
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:03 pm
DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum Well my post is moot because you're just an atheist. So yeah I'm just not going to feed you. Atheists can't have opinions on religious matters? I have no problem discussing religion with atheists. But as soon as it comes to nu uh prove it. What's the point? I used to be atheist myself so I know what's up. (Especially if the atheist and religious person are trying to "Win" a debate. We both know that's impossible)
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:07 pm
YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum Well my post is moot because you're just an atheist. So yeah I'm just not going to feed you. Atheists can't have opinions on religious matters? I have no problem discussing religion with atheists. But as soon as it comes to nu uh prove it. What's the point? I used to be atheist myself so I know what's up. (Especially if the atheist and religious person are trying to "Win" a debate. We both know that's impossible) True, but the point she was trying to make isn't really about god, so that's irrelevant. It's about the religion, itself.
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:10 pm
YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck Look, I'm an atheist, so I don't really give a damn about this particular topic, but I'm just curious about one thing. If you think we're all whack-jobs, what are you doing here? stare You notice the trolls recently too? lol Unfortunately, yes. xp However, I'm thus far unsure about whether or not she's a troll. ninja No it's a classic troll. Just coming in here to stir up trouble without backing herself up with anything more then nu uh I'm right your wrong. She came in with the argument I didn't. She's the one that has to prove the point I don't. (Since I'm not the one making claims.) Anything I'd present she'd fight and she's already trying to win something saying I conceded due to a lack of response. I'm not here to "Win" an argument like she is. I think my definition of trolling is a little different than most peoples. Some people just suck at making an argument. I think trolling takes some amount of intention and that's what I'm not sure she has. But as soon as you involve yourself, you're just as obligated to back up what you say, as she is. Just because she started the argument, doesn't mean she needs more evidence than you.
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:12 pm
DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum Well my post is moot because you're just an atheist. So yeah I'm just not going to feed you. Atheists can't have opinions on religious matters? I have no problem discussing religion with atheists. But as soon as it comes to nu uh prove it. What's the point? I used to be atheist myself so I know what's up. (Especially if the atheist and religious person are trying to "Win" a debate. We both know that's impossible) True, but the point she was trying to make isn't really about god, so that's irrelevant. It's about the religion, itself. She's trying to make an interpretation on prophecy and prove other interpretations wrong. If she wants proof of an interpretation she can find it all over this guild. The mark, the 666, all that fun stuff.
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:16 pm
YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum Well my post is moot because you're just an atheist. So yeah I'm just not going to feed you. Atheists can't have opinions on religious matters? I have no problem discussing religion with atheists. But as soon as it comes to nu uh prove it. What's the point? I used to be atheist myself so I know what's up. (Especially if the atheist and religious person are trying to "Win" a debate. We both know that's impossible) True, but the point she was trying to make isn't really about god, so that's irrelevant. It's about the religion, itself. She's trying to make an interpretation on prophecy and prove other interpretations wrong. If she wants proof of an interpretation she can find it all over this guild. The mark, the 666, all that fun stuff. (Well, proof is kind of bullshit anyways, but I guess that's mostly beside the point. ninja ) So maybe she's just lazy. Maybe she didn't care enough to go looking for those things. Maybe she had already seen them and wanted more substantial evidence. I don't know, I don't care. I'm not sure why you care.
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:17 pm
DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck Look, I'm an atheist, so I don't really give a damn about this particular topic, but I'm just curious about one thing. If you think we're all whack-jobs, what are you doing here? stare You notice the trolls recently too? lol Unfortunately, yes. xp However, I'm thus far unsure about whether or not she's a troll. ninja No it's a classic troll. Just coming in here to stir up trouble without backing herself up with anything more then nu uh I'm right your wrong. She came in with the argument I didn't. She's the one that has to prove the point I don't. (Since I'm not the one making claims.) Anything I'd present she'd fight and she's already trying to win something saying I conceded due to a lack of response. I'm not here to "Win" an argument like she is. I think my definition of trolling is a little different than most peoples. Some people just suck at making an argument. I think trolling takes some amount of intention and that's what I'm not sure she has. But as soon as you involve yourself, you're just as obligated to back up what you say, as she is. Just because she started the argument, doesn't mean she needs more evidence than you. I find it trolling because she's trying to discredit an interpretation that you can't discredit because it's exactly what it is an interpretation. Most find the bible's prophecy as straight forward as I find it. As well as I find it with figurative and literal meanings.(Even the same scripture has both literal and figurative meanings.) You can't just be black and white in the situation. So what's wrong with us calling the angel-chip the mark of the beast? What's the point of trying to discredit our belief that this indeed can be the mark of the beast? I know plenty of atheist that will refuse this chip because it is fundamentally an evil thing to mark people with a chip.
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:26 pm
YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck Look, I'm an atheist, so I don't really give a damn about this particular topic, but I'm just curious about one thing. If you think we're all whack-jobs, what are you doing here? stare You notice the trolls recently too? lol Unfortunately, yes. xp However, I'm thus far unsure about whether or not she's a troll. ninja No it's a classic troll. Just coming in here to stir up trouble without backing herself up with anything more then nu uh I'm right your wrong. She came in with the argument I didn't. She's the one that has to prove the point I don't. (Since I'm not the one making claims.) Anything I'd present she'd fight and she's already trying to win something saying I conceded due to a lack of response. I'm not here to "Win" an argument like she is. I think my definition of trolling is a little different than most peoples. Some people just suck at making an argument. I think trolling takes some amount of intention and that's what I'm not sure she has. But as soon as you involve yourself, you're just as obligated to back up what you say, as she is. Just because she started the argument, doesn't mean she needs more evidence than you. I find it trolling because she's trying to discredit an interpretation that you can't discredit because it's exactly what it is an interpretation. Most find the bible's prophecy as straight forward as I find it. As well as I find it with figurative and literal meanings.(Even the same scripture has both literal and figurative meanings.) You can't just be black and white in the situation. So what's wrong with us calling the angel-chip the mark of the beast? What's the point of trying to discredit our belief that this indeed can be the mark of the beast? I know plenty of atheist that will refuse this chip because it is fundamentally an evil thing to mark people with a chip. Well, first off, interpretations can't be discredited, but their sources can. Like any other opinion. Maybe it's true that there are no right and wrong opinions. (Not that I agree, but for the sake of argument...) Does that mean one person can't explain to another person why their opinion is moronic, without being called a troll? In that case, we're all trolls. And I believe the point of her stance against you calling it "the mark of the beast", is the same point we have for every stance we take. It's what we believe to be true and people like to be agreed with. Every time you make an argument for the angel-chip being the mark of the beast, you validate anyone who believes otherwise, to argue against it. That's what we do, as human beings. We argue.
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:27 pm
DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum Well my post is moot because you're just an atheist. So yeah I'm just not going to feed you. Atheists can't have opinions on religious matters? I have no problem discussing religion with atheists. But as soon as it comes to nu uh prove it. What's the point? I used to be atheist myself so I know what's up. (Especially if the atheist and religious person are trying to "Win" a debate. We both know that's impossible) True, but the point she was trying to make isn't really about god, so that's irrelevant. It's about the religion, itself. She's trying to make an interpretation on prophecy and prove other interpretations wrong. If she wants proof of an interpretation she can find it all over this guild. The mark, the 666, all that fun stuff. (Well, proof is kind of bullshit anyways, but I guess that's mostly beside the point. ninja ) So maybe she's just lazy. Maybe she didn't care enough to go looking for those things. Maybe she had already seen them and wanted more substantial evidence. I don't know, I don't care. I'm not sure why you care. I don't care; I'm just bored.
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:30 pm
YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum I have no problem discussing religion with atheists. But as soon as it comes to nu uh prove it. What's the point? I used to be atheist myself so I know what's up. (Especially if the atheist and religious person are trying to "Win" a debate. We both know that's impossible) True, but the point she was trying to make isn't really about god, so that's irrelevant. It's about the religion, itself. She's trying to make an interpretation on prophecy and prove other interpretations wrong. If she wants proof of an interpretation she can find it all over this guild. The mark, the 666, all that fun stuff. (Well, proof is kind of bullshit anyways, but I guess that's mostly beside the point. ninja ) So maybe she's just lazy. Maybe she didn't care enough to go looking for those things. Maybe she had already seen them and wanted more substantial evidence. I don't know, I don't care. I'm not sure why you care. I don't care; I'm just bored. I don't believe you. ^_^
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:32 pm
DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck Unfortunately, yes. xp However, I'm thus far unsure about whether or not she's a troll. ninja No it's a classic troll. Just coming in here to stir up trouble without backing herself up with anything more then nu uh I'm right your wrong. She came in with the argument I didn't. She's the one that has to prove the point I don't. (Since I'm not the one making claims.) Anything I'd present she'd fight and she's already trying to win something saying I conceded due to a lack of response. I'm not here to "Win" an argument like she is. I think my definition of trolling is a little different than most peoples. Some people just suck at making an argument. I think trolling takes some amount of intention and that's what I'm not sure she has. But as soon as you involve yourself, you're just as obligated to back up what you say, as she is. Just because she started the argument, doesn't mean she needs more evidence than you. I find it trolling because she's trying to discredit an interpretation that you can't discredit because it's exactly what it is an interpretation. Most find the bible's prophecy as straight forward as I find it. As well as I find it with figurative and literal meanings.(Even the same scripture has both literal and figurative meanings.) You can't just be black and white in the situation. So what's wrong with us calling the angel-chip the mark of the beast? What's the point of trying to discredit our belief that this indeed can be the mark of the beast? I know plenty of atheist that will refuse this chip because it is fundamentally an evil thing to mark people with a chip. Well, first off, interpretations can't be discredited, but their sources can. Like any other opinion. Maybe it's true that there are no right and wrong opinions. (Not that I agree, but for the sake of argument...) Does that mean one person can't explain to another person why their opinion is moronic, without being called a troll? In that case, we're all trolls. And I believe the point of her stance against you calling it "the mark of the beast", is the same point we have for every stance we take. It's what we believe to be true and people like to be agreed with. Every time you make an argument for the angel-chip being the mark of the beast, you validate anyone who believes otherwise, to argue against it. That's what we do, as human beings. We argue. I actually don't try to discredit the other person usually. I got uppity earlier because I figured she was a christian. But now that she's not I really don't care lol. But instead of me trying to take away from the other persons argument I just spam them with things showing my point. I don't try to attack the other persons opinion I just put a bunch of my stuff forward. Like right now I could easily spam her with a bunch of mark of the beast stuff. Go into detail what we figure the beast is. Ect. Nothing discrediting her but just showing her why we can easily be led to believe what we believe and how it makes sense. But I'm far too lazy for that right now and I'm confident this guild has plenty about it already.
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:35 pm
DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum DysFUNKtional Duck YahuShalum I have no problem discussing religion with atheists. But as soon as it comes to nu uh prove it. What's the point? I used to be atheist myself so I know what's up. (Especially if the atheist and religious person are trying to "Win" a debate. We both know that's impossible) True, but the point she was trying to make isn't really about god, so that's irrelevant. It's about the religion, itself. She's trying to make an interpretation on prophecy and prove other interpretations wrong. If she wants proof of an interpretation she can find it all over this guild. The mark, the 666, all that fun stuff. (Well, proof is kind of bullshit anyways, but I guess that's mostly beside the point. ninja ) So maybe she's just lazy. Maybe she didn't care enough to go looking for those things. Maybe she had already seen them and wanted more substantial evidence. I don't know, I don't care. I'm not sure why you care. I don't care; I'm just bored. I don't believe you. ^_^ I did care earlier because I assumed she was christian. But now that I found out she's atheist I actually don't care at all. I'd rather debate Christians over this then someone that doesn't believe in the book at all.
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:42 pm
Sorry. I was unintentionally broad with my snark. I was directing it mostly to the Guild Captain, and when not at her (him?), at other dispensationalist types. Hence, "you guys." I've also noticed that the dispensationalists tend to go for the more extreme side of the whole conspiracy thing and are much more eager to believe anything that fits with their worldview.
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