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Haha! I had a short boyfriend who enjoyed the pleasure of viewing the boobages right on...resting comfortably when hugging me...Stupid a** messed that up razz


I agree with that for a certain extent. I mean, I am very traditional when it comes to manners and the sort, yet I would either pay half the bill or alternate who gets to pay it. Some of the things are real silly and I would get rather embarrassed at the whole coat on the puddle thing...but I really do like the idea of being carried across. Man that's the sort of stuff that Mills and Boons publish.

Steve, you're right on that last part.

Knights, believe it or not, weren't all that chivalrous how we believed them to be. I'm sure i've said it before, that knights were feasibly allowed to rape and ransack an enemy's encampment/village after routing stationed troops. Due to the Feudal hierarchy, commoners would pay knights for protection, knights would pay barons for land, and barons were rich folk that paid taxes to the king.

Of course, taxes were mostly compromised of knights and peasants' taxation. Barons paid relatively little.

My point? Commoners didn't have to pay Knights in gold. They could pay a local Knight for protection by means of their daughters / sisters.

The whole 'opening a door for a lady' thing? Only if the door led to the bedroom, and the woman was willing. Otherwise, it was opened by throwing the woman through the door and towards the bed.

mrgreen Sorry for the History lecture, folks.

Yes...supposed to being the key words. I can't imagine them ever straying from the rules set for them...

*cough, cops, cough* xD

Hell, for a minute I thought I was reading the Etymology sub forum of a Grammar Nazi Guild blaugh

Culture and society greatly affects the way we perceive our world and mannerism. For example, in South African society, women are highly valued and are often "bought" via the lobola system which operates on the same means and manners as the Indians with dowry or "bridewealth". If an 18 year old has sex with a 16 year old and gets her pregnant, although both of them were consenting and of consenting age, the boy's family will have to pay a fine for "dishonouring" the 16 year old girl. This is Black South African culture.

For us White South Africans, we are pretty much the type that invites the fiancee to dinner with the parents and announce the engagement like that? And with some families, the family of the Bride pays for the wedding, etc.

What is a great contradiction here is, is that the majority of women beaters in the country are predominantly Black. Sure, there is a small minority of Whites here, yet, there is still a larger percentage in the middle class range where you would think the lack of potential of drugs/alcohol/circumstances playing a role in the abuse. That's not to say that all Black men are women beaters. But the general thought process according to Sociologists here are that men "own" their wives and therefore have the "right" to beat them. And many women allow it. I mean, my domestic worker aka my Black mom gets hit by her husband at home and albeit that she hates him doing it and knows that it is wrong, she still stays with him and allows it to happen.

I agree that there is a double standard here with regards to chivlary, but as there are double standards with most other things. A man who sleeps around is a stud but a women that does is labeled a slut or whore? How fair is that? We just come to label certain things the way we do because it is a general agreement that our fragile society has made amongst different cultures and races. I mean, as much as we are indepedent, free-thinking and curious beings, we still like to have some sort of guide-lines as to how to behave, and what is a fair sense of justice in the world. It's greatly manipulated today by our politicians and world leaders (and this can be shown by views of Gay Marriages and Abortion).