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 Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:13 pm
Ugh...
As far as I'm concerned, people would either deny that these aliens were gods, or would start worshipping them, thinking they are gods. It wouldn't "disprove" anything. Even if they did come and ******** with us, it would more prove that the miracles did happen. And I think that Itachi_Hare and Julri did damn good explanations, so...
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:42 pm
SchizoSpazz i was a teenager when i was told that there are'worlds beyond number' out there, and that some of those worlds contain life, apparently similar to ours. so it wouldn't discredit the religion i grew up in. our records just cover earth; it doesn't necessarily imply that earth is the only source of life *nods* The possibility of life existing and thriving in some form or another outside of earth is something that I grew up with.
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:48 pm
Zslone2 Ok so I'm sure we've all heard Earth has been visited by Aliens. But the point of this isn't to actually discuss Aliens themselves but rather a What if scenario I found controversial. So the Story of this goes One day as i sat in my room listening to the radio, they happened to be talking about the Pope that day and I happen to hear them quote the Pope saying something along the lines of "If Aliens are discovered then it won't disprove Christianity." Now the What if scenario that spins off this is Say one day we discover Aliens, they say they've been to Earth countless times before. So what do you all think? Would your religion be disproved if Aliens were discovered and claimed to have visited Earth time and time again. My thought on this is yes it would disprove almost every religion but Buddhism. Why because the Aliens would have been considered gods back in ancient times and would have been revered. So now adays they would disprove religions but Buddhism, only because it doesn't really have gods. Why would they have been considered Gods? That's only one possibility. People of Antiquity weren't stupid. I'm willing to wager that their reaction wouldn't differ much from what you might see happening today, some of the more superstitious folk might see them as Gods, other's wouldn't.
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:38 pm
Zslone2 Ok to clearify since most don't understand what my What if is saying. Im asking if Aliens came at a point in are History when the world was only Pagan and ******** with us then. Came back when Noah, Jesus and other Worldly prophets were around and ******** with us again. What I mean is say that they did come when Jesus was said to be alive or Noah or whoever it doesnt matter so much the person but it just has to be a famous religious prophet. Well the Aliens being MUCH MUCH more high tec than us would have done things to prove they were Godly. Maybe some wanted to be worshipped over other so they did "miracles" like Make rocks into bread, cure a blind man of his illness or w/e else Jesus did. Maybe they were the Light Moses saw and they gave him the Commandments not God. That's how it would disprove most Dualistic Religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam intended there). As for Pagan religions it would disprove their gods like Oden or Thor, Isis, Ra, Zeus and so on by the Aliens being said gods. While I'm completely aware this is a big stretch it is a possibility since WERE NOT THE ONLY LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE!! But anyway now that i hopefully cleared up the fogginess please defend your views. I think the joke in my previous quote covers that nicely for the pure and simple fact that if aliens came and claimed to have done all of that I would think either they wer liers and wanted to eat/enslave us or that they did all of that stuff back then so that they could claim to have done them now because they decided to come back and pick up a large batch of slaves ((new possible meaning behind Noah's flood??? maybe they harvested the earth mad noah think the whole earth was flooded when it was really only really close to him???)) and even if they were telling the truth i'm one of those paranoid types that the following saying from a book I read fits perfectly.. : Some see the glass half full, some see it half empty, and others see it covered with alien parasites that want to devour your pancreas. I would be the third type.... and no i don't believe ridiculous conspiracy theories.... I just don't deny that they could be true...
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:53 pm
Aliens wouldn't necessarily disprove christianity. Maybe god created the aliens. In the bible he is responsible for creating all life so maybe aliens were created by him aswell except they were not born into sin. Maybe there was more than one garden in eden or w/e. There is always a lot of what ifs.
What would be interesting is if aliens came to earth and they themselves believed in a common religion like christianity or even muslim lmao. That would be very interesting..... Maybe they believed in something entirely different and tryed converting us.
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:50 pm
Zslone2 Ok to clearify since most don't understand what my What if is saying. Im asking if Aliens came at a point in are History when the world was only Pagan and ******** with us then. Came back when Noah, Jesus and other Worldly prophets were around and ******** with us again. What I mean is say that they did come when Jesus was said to be alive or Noah or whoever it doesnt matter so much the person but it just has to be a famous religious prophet. Well the Aliens being MUCH MUCH more high tec than us would have done things to prove they were Godly. Maybe some wanted to be worshipped over other so they did "miracles" like Make rocks into bread, cure a blind man of his illness or w/e else Jesus did. Maybe they were the Light Moses saw and they gave him the Commandments not God. That's how it would disprove most Dualistic Religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam intended there). As for Pagan religions it would disprove their gods like Oden or Thor, Isis, Ra, Zeus and so on by the Aliens being said gods. While I'm completely aware this is a big stretch it is a possibility since WERE NOT THE ONLY LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE!! But anyway now that i hopefully cleared up the fogginess please defend your views. Uh, I guess if all of that happened it could help to disprove certain religions, but it's a lot of what ifs. That's like saying "If it turned out that Jesus was really a belly dancing Power Ranger who was in league with Satan and faked his death in order to gain evil minions to destroy France would it disprove Christianity?" I mean, I guess it would, but what the ******** are the chances of any of that?
Anyway, I believe that there's a large possibility that aliens exist, but I think it's silly to make all of these random assumptions about them. Unless a highly advanced race of aliens actually does come to Earth claiming that they came here thousands of years ago and were mistaken as gods, it's all sort of a moot point, just like the question about a belly dancing Power Ranger Jesus is moot unless a belly dancing Power Ranger actually comes to earth in the near future claiming to be Jesus.
Gah, I don't even know what my point was now...
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:55 pm
Julri Zslone2 Ok to clearify since most don't understand what my What if is saying. Im asking if Aliens came at a point in are History when the world was only Pagan and ******** with us then. Came back when Noah, Jesus and other Worldly prophets were around and ******** with us again. What I mean is say that they did come when Jesus was said to be alive or Noah or whoever it doesnt matter so much the person but it just has to be a famous religious prophet. Well the Aliens being MUCH MUCH more high tec than us would have done things to prove they were Godly. Maybe some wanted to be worshipped over other so they did "miracles" like Make rocks into bread, cure a blind man of his illness or w/e else Jesus did. Maybe they were the Light Moses saw and they gave him the Commandments not God. That's how it would disprove most Dualistic Religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam intended there). As for Pagan religions it would disprove their gods like Oden or Thor, Isis, Ra, Zeus and so on by the Aliens being said gods. While I'm completely aware this is a big stretch it is a possibility since WERE NOT THE ONLY LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE!! But anyway now that i hopefully cleared up the fogginess please defend your views. Uh, I guess if all of that happened it could help to disprove certain religions, but it's a lot of what ifs. That's like saying "If it turned out that Jesus was really a belly dancing Power Ranger who was in league with Satan and faked his death in order to gain evil minions to destroy France would it disprove Christianity?" I mean, I guess it would, but what the ******** are the chances of any of that?
Anyway, I believe that there's a large possibility that aliens exist, but I think it's silly to make all of these random assumptions about them. Unless a highly advanced race of aliens actually does come to Earth claiming that they came here thousands of years ago and were mistaken as gods, it's all sort of a moot point, just like the question about a belly dancing Power Ranger Jesus is moot unless a belly dancing Power Ranger actually comes to earth in the near future claiming to be Jesus.
Gah, I don't even know what my point was now... This. Your scenario is *defined* as aliens proving that God as we experienced Him was fake, so yes, it would obviously that prove that our religions were false. Even if aliens showed up and made those claims though, there would hardly be any way to prove them. Instead, many Christians would label them false prophets and demons (perhaps correctly).
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:21 pm
Eh well at least your defended yourselves. I'm happy enough to understand your views. So thanks for sharing why you would or wouldn't believe them @Itachi I agree man those damn aliens wanna enslave the Earth man!! And I'm no huge conspiracy person but come on THEY EXIST WE ALL KNOW IT!
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:07 pm
Nebulance Julri Zslone2 Ok to clearify since most don't understand what my What if is saying. Im asking if Aliens came at a point in are History when the world was only Pagan and ******** with us then. Came back when Noah, Jesus and other Worldly prophets were around and ******** with us again. What I mean is say that they did come when Jesus was said to be alive or Noah or whoever it doesnt matter so much the person but it just has to be a famous religious prophet. Well the Aliens being MUCH MUCH more high tec than us would have done things to prove they were Godly. Maybe some wanted to be worshipped over other so they did "miracles" like Make rocks into bread, cure a blind man of his illness or w/e else Jesus did. Maybe they were the Light Moses saw and they gave him the Commandments not God. That's how it would disprove most Dualistic Religions (Christianity, Judaism, and Islam intended there). As for Pagan religions it would disprove their gods like Oden or Thor, Isis, Ra, Zeus and so on by the Aliens being said gods. While I'm completely aware this is a big stretch it is a possibility since WERE NOT THE ONLY LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE!! But anyway now that i hopefully cleared up the fogginess please defend your views. Uh, I guess if all of that happened it could help to disprove certain religions, but it's a lot of what ifs. That's like saying "If it turned out that Jesus was really a belly dancing Power Ranger who was in league with Satan and faked his death in order to gain evil minions to destroy France would it disprove Christianity?" I mean, I guess it would, but what the ******** are the chances of any of that?
Anyway, I believe that there's a large possibility that aliens exist, but I think it's silly to make all of these random assumptions about them. Unless a highly advanced race of aliens actually does come to Earth claiming that they came here thousands of years ago and were mistaken as gods, it's all sort of a moot point, just like the question about a belly dancing Power Ranger Jesus is moot unless a belly dancing Power Ranger actually comes to earth in the near future claiming to be Jesus.
Gah, I don't even know what my point was now... This. Your scenario is *defined* as aliens proving that God as we experienced Him was fake, so yes, it would obviously that prove that our religions were false. Even if aliens showed up and made those claims though, there would hardly be any way to prove them. Instead, many Christians would label them false prophets and demons (perhaps correctly). If aliens were advanced enough already back then they could very easily prove that they had come, 1 they could have recorded there visit on some hologrph playing device... there's some prophet in the bible that supposedly went with god to the heaven place while he was still alve in order to live forever or something so if it were aliens they would either have him, his remains, or some clone of him, ect... also they could prove their visit by knowing where, say a giant cube that could create life was supposed to be.. (yeah, I made a transformers reference) on the other hand they could obduct some old jewish person, erase his memory and rewrite it with what the guy back then was supposed to know, make a fake video holograph of the supposed visit or create a copy of some long lost artifact, plant it, and then tell us where its supposed to be so it all depends on how paranoid one is and how skeptical ect...
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:26 am
I don't see how they would disprove religion....but maybe point out some flaws or forgotten areas. I honestly believe with all the multiple galaxies out there, that it is statistically in favor of us not being the only intelligent life to evolve.
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:33 pm
Ice_Veins I don't see how they would disprove religion....but maybe point out some flaws or forgotten areas. I honestly believe with all the multiple galaxies out there, that it is statistically in favor of us not being the only intelligent life to evolve. The chances of life evolving are 1 in a number with more zeros then I could type. It's rather unlikely, unless God saw fit to create others besides us.
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:29 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Ice_Veins I don't see how they would disprove religion....but maybe point out some flaws or forgotten areas. I honestly believe with all the multiple galaxies out there, that it is statistically in favor of us not being the only intelligent life to evolve. The chances of life evolving are 1 in a number with more zeros then I could type. It's rather unlikely, unless God saw fit to create others besides us. but what are the chances that in the WHOLE universe that life was created on only one planet? and this is a question of the odds not the answwer only if christianity or (insert other religion here) is the truth?
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