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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:26 pm
I knew this was going to pop up at some point or another. Simple solution:
-Get supplies stockpiled -Get firearms -Secure your house (This does not mean locking the doors, it means barring them, along with windows.) -Sit Tight -Bomb shelter seems like a good idea right about now.
That's not even the beginning of what you'll need.
The world's going to pot, and has been for the last few decades. I wouldn't be surprised if Obama got assassinated anytime soon-though it's a shame-as he's the head of this, technically.
I could go on-but that irrelevant. What matters is that people realize what the ******** is going on around them and get their heads out of their asses.
I suppose the next thing coming would either be: Assassination Coup d'état. All out war (Other countries are not going to happy about this) This blows over (This is very, very, unlikely. But still possible. Improbable, but not impossible.)
This is most of what I'm going to say on this.
I'll end with the statement: Learn how to kill someone.
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:32 pm
@Martyrize: You're not alone. I'm scared too, and I definitely don't like this kind of scared.
@Brandon: This is bigger than Obama. An assassination wouldn't do much of anything except give the government cause to retaliate. He just became president and this has been brewing for quite some time.
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:32 pm
A meeting of world leaders is not necessarily to be feared. There is a LOT of fearmongering going on, with relation to this summit.
Obama hasn't declared himself President!!! That is just hysterical nonsense, cooked up by jaded political consultants who know how to make people worry about non-existent issues. These paid consultants have been at it non stop all year, and continue to prey on the ignorant. Blah blah Obama, blah blah Hitler, blah blah Muslim. Americans ought to be ashamed to listen to that kind of slanderous s**t. But some people suck it up without once thinking about what they are embracing.
Matters like the environment and the economy SHOULD be discussed in a global context! It's not like air pollution knows any boundaries. If we don't get a check on nuclear proliferation, we will blow ourselves up, or pollute our planet to the point of uninhabitability.
And we live in a global economy, like it or not. If you want your anime priced reasonably, and you want Chinese laborers to get fair wages, if you want your tuna free of mercury, etc., you must acknowledge the need for talk across borders. That is nothing to be afraid of!! The internet joins us all; but we have to agree on ground rules from time to time.
You cannot just start blithering about a New World Order and being afraid when world leaders talk among themselves. That is their job. And it is counterproductive to fear TALK.
It is a real shame that the protests of these talks always seem to result in violence done by both the protesters and police. The protesters may have legitimate issues to bring to the table. But you cannot deny that many of them are acting out of kneejerk fear and aren't even aware of the issues or the agenda for the summit.
We wish the world to live in harmony? We have to talk to each other. That is not a talking point. It is a fact.
OOOH: stockpile for Armageddon, learn to kill, live in fear, ruin your life. Good advice if you are a total nutbag, I guess.
It is a far better way to learn the issues, read the facts for yourself, talk to both our allies and our opponents, and to always strive to take the high road. How can any reasonable person dispute it?
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:56 pm
I like the part where people are reading the first sentence or two then contributing. Yeah, that's my favorite. Good discussions result in that one rolleyes Yes, we are freaking out because of a global economy and talks about such. Mmm hmm, because that's really a rational reason to be scared. Yupp.
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:22 pm
I cant believe I'm about to stick up for the Clinton News Network, but the article your using has no relation this issue at all. It is in fact an article from when Obama was elected in 2008, the article is dated 11/05/2008. To use it for this topic will only cause a missrepresintation of the report and is purly being used to cause a missinterpretation of the situation. There is no consperecy for world domination.
My Second Point, the only other reference you use is YouTube, which is not the best source for accurrate information for this topic.
Finally, my view on the situation is that we are already a world economy with all the importing and outsourcing we do as a country, the next inevetible step is that we switch to both a unified word currency and government. However, this inevitble step is a long time away and will most likely not happen in our lifetimes, there are still to many dividing issues between cultures for this to happen. Even if it were to happen in the next few years, with the dirt hole Obama is running our economy into there's no way the other countries would except him as "president of the world". In fact the politicle structure would probably be more like our congress or the UN where a number of representatives from each country meet and decide what's best for the world, because everyone would want there country in charge, so it would be the only fair way to do it.
As for the protesters being attacted like that, what do you expect? A large crowd of people outside a building where an important meeting of world leaders is taking place causing a rucus of people protesting and disrupting the meeting. Of course they'd do something to disrupt it. They've been doing the same thing since the 60's, just be thankful they've found a non-lethal way to go about it.
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:27 pm
Kerberos13 I cant believe I'm about to stick up for the Clinton News Network, but the article your using has no relation this issue at all. It is in fact an article from when Obama was elected in 2008, the article is dated 11/05/2008. To use it for this topic will only cause a missrepresintation of the report and is purly being used to cause a missinterpretation of the situation. There is no consperecy for world domination. My Second Point, the only other reference you use is YouTube, which is not the best source for accurrate information for this topic. Finally, my view on the situation is that we are already a world economy with all the importing and outsourcing we do as a country, the next inevetible step is that we switch to both a unified word currency and government. However, this inevitble step is a long time away and will most likely not happen in our lifetimes, there are still to many dividing issues between cultures for this to happen. Even if it were to happen in the next few years, with the dirt hole Obama is running our economy into there's no way the other countries would except him as "president of the world". In fact the politicle structure would probably be more like our congress or the UN where a number of representatives from each country meet and decide what's best for the world, because everyone would want there country in charge, so it would be the only fair way to do it.
Let's not turn this into a fight between political parties, because honestly, no matter which party is running things, everything is the same. I've never noticed a difference in the way things are run. Our economy was already ******** up when Obama took the reigns. You can blame Bush and his war for that. We'll keep the discussion relevant in that we're not fighting over being conservative or being liberal here.
Thanks for pointing out the flaws in the OP, this is why I encourage people to do their own research on everything before forming an opinion.
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:43 pm
This is retarded. The first link is almost a year old and the rest of the post is clearly biased. The conclusions reached are based on misconceptions: an Orwellian world? Are you serious? Way to completely ignore the other side of the story.
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:48 pm
Rei_Toei A meeting of world leaders is not necessarily to be feared. There is a LOT of fearmongering going on, with relation to this summit. Obama hasn't declared himself President!!! That is just hysterical nonsense, cooked up by jaded political consultants who know how to make people worry about non-existent issues. These paid consultants have been at it non stop all year, and continue to prey on the ignorant. Blah blah Obama, blah blah Hitler, blah blah Muslim. Americans ought to be ashamed to listen to that kind of slanderous s**t. But some people suck it up without once thinking about what they are embracing. Matters like the environment and the economy SHOULD be discussed in a global context! It's not like air pollution knows any boundaries. If we don't get a check on nuclear proliferation, we will blow ourselves up, or pollute our planet to the point of uninhabitability. And we live in a global economy, like it or not. If you want your anime priced reasonably, and you want Chinese laborers to get fair wages, if you want your tuna free of mercury, etc., you must acknowledge the need for talk across borders. That is nothing to be afraid of!! The internet joins us all; but we have to agree on ground rules from time to time. You cannot just start blithering about a New World Order and being afraid when world leaders talk among themselves. That is their job. And it is counterproductive to fear TALK. It is a real shame that the protests of these talks always seem to result in violence done by both the protesters and police. The protesters may have legitimate issues to bring to the table. But you cannot deny that many of them are acting out of kneejerk fear and aren't even aware of the issues or the agenda for the summit. We wish the world to live in harmony? We have to talk to each other. That is not a talking point. It is a fact. OOOH: stockpile for Armageddon, learn to kill, live in fear, ruin your life. Good advice if you are a total nutbag, I guess. It is a far better way to learn the issues, read the facts for yourself, talk to both our allies and our opponents, and to always strive to take the high road. How can any reasonable person dispute it? This is the first sensible post I've read in the thread, especially the bold parts.
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:51 pm
Vanilla eXee Kerberos13 I cant believe I'm about to stick up for the Clinton News Network, but the article your using has no relation this issue at all. It is in fact an article from when Obama was elected in 2008, the article is dated 11/05/2008. To use it for this topic will only cause a missrepresintation of the report and is purly being used to cause a missinterpretation of the situation. There is no consperecy for world domination. My Second Point, the only other reference you use is YouTube, which is not the best source for accurrate information for this topic. Finally, my view on the situation is that we are already a world economy with all the importing and outsourcing we do as a country, the next inevetible step is that we switch to both a unified word currency and government. However, this inevitble step is a long time away and will most likely not happen in our lifetimes, there are still to many dividing issues between cultures for this to happen. Even if it were to happen in the next few years, with the dirt hole Obama is running our economy into there's no way the other countries would except him as "president of the world". In fact the politicle structure would probably be more like our congress or the UN where a number of representatives from each country meet and decide what's best for the world, because everyone would want there country in charge, so it would be the only fair way to do it.
Let's not turn this into a fight between political parties, because honestly, no matter which party is running things, everything is the same. I've never noticed a difference in the way things are run. Our economy was already ******** up when Obama took the reigns. You can blame Bush and his war for that. We'll keep the discussion relevant in that we're not fighting over being conservative or being liberal here.
Thanks for pointing out the flaws in the OP, this is why I encourage people to do their own research on everything before forming an opinion.
first you missed my addition so here it is "As for the protesters being attacted like that, what do you expect? A large crowd of people outside a building where an important meeting of world leaders is taking place causing a rucus of people protesting and disrupting the meeting. Of course they'd do something to disrupt it. They've been doing the same thing since the 60's, just be thankful they've found a non-lethal way to go about it." second, the war had nothing to do with the fall of the economy, we were in a downward spiral for years. The situation actually started during the Clinton years and Bush actually tried to push for several reform legislations to be passed to stop it from happening but the DEMOCRATIC party shot it down (interestingly enough Obama was on of the major opposers to the reforms, especially the housing reforms which, interestinly enough, it is fact that a major part of his '08 campain was funded by lobbyists from the housing administration, who would have been greatly financially damaged had the bill passed), it's just people finally started to notice it and feel it during the Bush years, got scared, and caused the economy to crash on there own. With all the Bull s**t Pork Barrel legislature that goes on the cost of the war is nothing. Next dont go saying "Bush's War" and insult those who've fought or those whose families have fought, we go to war as a country, using a duragotory term like that is the same as someone saying "FDR's War". You dont support our troops by saying things like that. The reason people are unhappy about things now is becasue we had bad intel and so we found no WMD's, if we had found WMD's people prospective on the war would be completely different. But back to the matter at hand, Obama made everything worse in the long run we were around 1 trillion dollars in debt and he borrowed 4 trillion from other countries to "fix" it, put logic here. And many of the companies that recieved money from that bail out plan still collapsed while the workers were poorly paid and the owners sat in the lap of luxury.
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:55 pm
Baron von Turkeypants This is retarded. The first link is almost a year old and the rest of the post is clearly biased. The conclusions reached are based on misconceptions: an Orwellian world? Are you serious? Way to completely ignore the other side of the story.
Whether the OP is flawed or not, a simple search brings up material on what indeed went on, we also have input here from someone who lives there who has witnessed something of it. While I agree that posting irrelevant citations does nothing to help inform, something is indeed brewing and it's not going to be pretty. There are too many pieces to the puzzle and this is just one of them.
All of the protesters were not peaceful, and they had reason to be worried because of what happened at the one before this, but many innocent people were also indiscriminately attacked. Shoot first, ask questions later. I love it when that's how my government trains it's "peace keepers". rolleyes
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:05 am
Kerberos13 Vanilla eXee Kerberos13 I cant believe I'm about to stick up for the Clinton News Network, but the article your using has no relation this issue at all. It is in fact an article from when Obama was elected in 2008, the article is dated 11/05/2008. To use it for this topic will only cause a missrepresintation of the report and is purly being used to cause a missinterpretation of the situation. There is no consperecy for world domination. My Second Point, the only other reference you use is YouTube, which is not the best source for accurrate information for this topic. Finally, my view on the situation is that we are already a world economy with all the importing and outsourcing we do as a country, the next inevetible step is that we switch to both a unified word currency and government. However, this inevitble step is a long time away and will most likely not happen in our lifetimes, there are still to many dividing issues between cultures for this to happen. Even if it were to happen in the next few years, with the dirt hole Obama is running our economy into there's no way the other countries would except him as "president of the world". In fact the politicle structure would probably be more like our congress or the UN where a number of representatives from each country meet and decide what's best for the world, because everyone would want there country in charge, so it would be the only fair way to do it.
Let's not turn this into a fight between political parties, because honestly, no matter which party is running things, everything is the same. I've never noticed a difference in the way things are run. Our economy was already ******** up when Obama took the reigns. You can blame Bush and his war for that. We'll keep the discussion relevant in that we're not fighting over being conservative or being liberal here.
Thanks for pointing out the flaws in the OP, this is why I encourage people to do their own research on everything before forming an opinion.
first you missed my addition so here it is "As for the protesters being attacted like that, what do you expect? A large crowd of people outside a building where an important meeting of world leaders is taking place causing a rucus of people protesting and disrupting the meeting. Of course they'd do something to disrupt it. They've been doing the same thing since the 60's, just be thankful they've found a non-lethal way to go about it." second, the war had nothing to do with the fall of the economy, we were in a downward spiral for a long time it's just people finally started to notice it, got scared, and caused the economy to crash. With all the Bull s**t Pork Barrel legislature that goes on the cost of the war is nothing. Next dont go saying "Bush's War" and insult those who've fought or those whose families have fought, we go to war as a country, using a duragotory term like that is the same as someone saying "FDR's War". You dont support our troops by saying things like that. The reason people are unhappy about things now is becasue we had bad intel and so we found no WMD's, if we had found WMD's people prospective on the war would be completely different. But back to the matter at hand, Obama made everything worse in the long run we were around 1 trillion dollars in debt and he borrowed 4 trillion from other countries to "fix" it, put logic here. And many of the companies that recieved money from that bail out plan still collapsed while the workers were poorly paid and the owners sat in the lap of luxury.
Oh please. I'm not insulting anyone by saying "Bush's war". I've got family over there too, and I support them. They don't choose where the wars are or what they're fought over. They just choose to defend their country and their loved ones regardless of whether they believe the cause or not. Losing their lives because of politics. So again, I can call it whatever I please and that does not disrespect them. I was angry about the war the moment I heard of it, because I don't believe war is ever the answer. I was so young I didn't even know what it was about. WMD's didn't even come into the equation for me until recently.
The borrowing issue is what happens when you have a plan and the people involved don't go along with it. But again, we were already far into the hole beforehand. If you have a problem with it, come up with your own plan instead of bellyaching about how terrible Obama is for trying to do something about it.
As for the protesters being attacked, we do have a right to protest in this country. If people can come and protest at soldier's funerals, why can't they protest this without getting attacked?
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:40 am
Vanilla eXee Kerberos13 Vanilla eXee Kerberos13 I cant believe I'm about to stick up for the Clinton News Network, but the article your using has no relation this issue at all. It is in fact an article from when Obama was elected in 2008, the article is dated 11/05/2008. To use it for this topic will only cause a missrepresintation of the report and is purly being used to cause a missinterpretation of the situation. There is no consperecy for world domination. My Second Point, the only other reference you use is YouTube, which is not the best source for accurrate information for this topic. Finally, my view on the situation is that we are already a world economy with all the importing and outsourcing we do as a country, the next inevetible step is that we switch to both a unified word currency and government. However, this inevitble step is a long time away and will most likely not happen in our lifetimes, there are still to many dividing issues between cultures for this to happen. Even if it were to happen in the next few years, with the dirt hole Obama is running our economy into there's no way the other countries would except him as "president of the world". In fact the politicle structure would probably be more like our congress or the UN where a number of representatives from each country meet and decide what's best for the world, because everyone would want there country in charge, so it would be the only fair way to do it.
Let's not turn this into a fight between political parties, because honestly, no matter which party is running things, everything is the same. I've never noticed a difference in the way things are run. Our economy was already ******** up when Obama took the reigns. You can blame Bush and his war for that. We'll keep the discussion relevant in that we're not fighting over being conservative or being liberal here.
Thanks for pointing out the flaws in the OP, this is why I encourage people to do their own research on everything before forming an opinion.
first you missed my addition so here it is "As for the protesters being attacted like that, what do you expect? A large crowd of people outside a building where an important meeting of world leaders is taking place causing a rucus of people protesting and disrupting the meeting. Of course they'd do something to disrupt it. They've been doing the same thing since the 60's, just be thankful they've found a non-lethal way to go about it." second, the war had nothing to do with the fall of the economy, we were in a downward spiral for a long time it's just people finally started to notice it, got scared, and caused the economy to crash. With all the Bull s**t Pork Barrel legislature that goes on the cost of the war is nothing. Next dont go saying "Bush's War" and insult those who've fought or those whose families have fought, we go to war as a country, using a duragotory term like that is the same as someone saying "FDR's War". You dont support our troops by saying things like that. The reason people are unhappy about things now is becasue we had bad intel and so we found no WMD's, if we had found WMD's people prospective on the war would be completely different. But back to the matter at hand, Obama made everything worse in the long run we were around 1 trillion dollars in debt and he borrowed 4 trillion from other countries to "fix" it, put logic here. And many of the companies that recieved money from that bail out plan still collapsed while the workers were poorly paid and the owners sat in the lap of luxury.
Oh please. I'm not insulting anyone by saying "Bush's war". I've got family over there too, and I support them. They don't choose where the wars are or what they're fought over. They just choose to defend their country and their loved ones regardless of whether they believe the cause or not. Losing their lives because of politics. So again, I can call it whatever I please and that does not disrespect them. I was angry about the war the moment I heard of it, because I don't believe war is ever the answer. I was so young I didn't even know what it was about. WMD's didn't even come into the equation for me until recently.
The borrowing issue is what happens when you have a plan and the people involved don't go along with it. But again, we were already far into the hole beforehand. If you have a problem with it, come up with your own plan instead of bellyaching about how terrible Obama is for trying to do something about it.
As for the protesters being attacked, we do have a right to protest in this country. If people can come and protest at soldier's funerals, why can't they protest this without getting attacked?
Well, I am old enough to remember when the war first started and to remember the fear of WMD attacks, let me tell you it was a major reason for going over. You say they choose to defend there country because they felt there was a threat to it, but calling it "Bush's war" is insulting because it implies things such as "Bush is just trying to finish what daddy started" and "he's only doing it for the oil" which is basically saying that there was no real threat and no reason for the deaths. Your idealistic views are the greatest flaw of this generation. When a man points a gun at you and you have a gun big enough to protect yourself, will you not use it to defend yourself if his only objective is to blow you and everyone you love off the face of this earth? The war is not the answer philosiphy would have draged out and caused more deaths if it were a concern when we dropped the bomb. To your comment about "when you have a plan and the people involved don't go along with it", they did go along with it they had government agents watching and forcing them to change. I did have a solution but people would oppose it and I dont have the influence in the first place to have anyone hear it let alone to get it passed, because the only solution is a very harse (and very unpopular politically, meaning it would fix the problem but every politician who let it happen would lose there job) reality that most people dont want to accept. I'm not bellyacheing that Obama tried to do something about it, I'm bellyaching because he did something completly wrong and completely moronic to try and do it and actually wound up making things worse. The protesters at the funeral werent causing a scene in huge numbers where important world leaders were grouped together trying to work together on issues. That's the difference.
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:52 am
Here let me do the research
Google mainstream news search for "New World Order"
"45,842 for new world order"
Africa and South America: A new world order confirmed http://en.afrik.com/article16219.html
A new world order? http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/article/701295
Emerging markets wrest bigger role in new world order http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/emerging-markets-wrest-bigger-role-in-new-world-order/371378/
Emergence Of G-20 Signals New World Order http://www.rttnews.com/Content/TopStories.aspx?Id=1077187&Category=Top Stories&SimRec=1&Node=B1
New World Order: Obama to Widen G-20's Role http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/politics/G20-092509-61436387.html
G-20 Seeks To Forge New Economic World Order http://www.rferl.org/content/Upbeat_G20_Takes_New_Lead_Role_On_Global_Economy/1836785.html
G-20 Advances New World Order, Media Admit http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/economy/commentary-mainmenu-43/1969-g20-advances-new-world-order-media-admit
Brazil after new world order in economy http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=106926§ionid=351020706
This is not one cnn title.
But this has been coming it is expected its just being proven. The more important part is the complete loss of civil rights and the beginning of a new police nation.
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:57 am
These are not politically single protests, Democrats, Rebublicans, Iraq veterians, Tibetan Monks! And more importantly the people who are being gassed, bombarded with sound cannons, and beaten are the students who were walking home, families and children on their lawns.  Does he look like an anarchist, a dirty stinky hippy liberal?
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:58 am
While we are on current news...
Iran test fires long-range missile Posted: 03:01 AM ET
(CNN) — Iran test fired a long-range Shahab-3 missile on Monday, state-run Press TV reported.
Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps began a series of missile exercises Sunday to promote the armed forces’ defense capabilities.
The tests, which are expected to conclude on Monday, are codenamed “Payghambar-e Azam 4″ or “The Great Prophet 4,” Press TV said.
Shahab-3 missiles are touted by Iran as being able to strike targets within a range of about 800 to 1,250 miles (1,300 to 2,000 kilometers).
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