Welcome to Gaia! ::

Debate/Discuss Religion

Back to Guilds

A guild devoted to discussing and debating different aspects of various world religions 

Tags: religion, faith, tolerance, discuss, debate 

Reply Religious Debate
Illegal missionaries Goto Page: [] [<] 1 2 3 ... 4 5 6 [>] [»|]

Quick Reply

Enter both words below, separated by a space:

Can't read the text? Click here

Submit

comfylove

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:41 am


In Medias Res IV
comfortably_dumb
I've never met a Mormon or a Jehovah's Witness. cry


My mother studied with the Witnesses for four years. The ones that I grew up around I absolutely love and are welcome to knock on my door anytime they want, they know that I will never be converted.

It's the ones who just show up at your door and don't know you at all... ack.
I heard that they don't leave, even if they know you're a "lost cause" and will stay over, eat, and play games.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:46 am


comfortably_dumb
In Medias Res IV
comfortably_dumb
I've never met a Mormon or a Jehovah's Witness. cry


My mother studied with the Witnesses for four years. The ones that I grew up around I absolutely love and are welcome to knock on my door anytime they want, they know that I will never be converted.

It's the ones who just show up at your door and don't know you at all... ack.
I heard that they don't leave, even if they know you're a "lost cause" and will stay over, eat, and play games.

Yes, they do.

I think that if you're trying to convert others, you're not secure in your own spirituality.

In Medias Res IV


Samantha_Grey

8,400 Points
  • Wall Street 200
  • Full closet 200
  • Entrepreneur 150
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:12 am


LDS missionaries don't go where it isn't allowed. They recently had to close the mission in Russia because immigration was making it so the missionaries would have to get their visas once every 3 months. That is 6-8 times they have to leave the country to deal with bureaucracy. The risk of something happening to them while this was happening was too much.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:13 am


Samantha_Grey
LDS missionaries don't go where it isn't allowed. They recently had to close the mission in Russia because immigration was making it so the missionaries would have to get their visas once every 3 months. That is 6-8 times they have to leave the country to deal with bureaucracy. The risk of something happening to them while this was happening was too much.


I think that's a sign that they're not wanted in Russia. With the Orthodoxy in Russia, Mormons are certainly not needed.

In Medias Res IV


vampirate tsukinu

3,000 Points
  • Gaian 50
  • Member 100
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:34 am


question
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:27 am


Someoneiknow
I was curious on this guilds perspective of individuals going into countries were proselytizing is illegal. I feel that this sort of missionary work is misleading and doesn't promote the message of God very well. People may feel that the Christian (I do not know about other religions do this) is just out there to do whatever it wants, rather than waiting for God to open the way. What's your thoughts?


I'm against most forms of proselytizing. Sneaking into countries to 'spread the word' is not something that I can condone.

Semiremis
Captain


Lumanny the Space Jew

Blessed Poster

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:21 pm


As always, I agree to the letter with everything In Media Res says.  
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:33 pm


I don't mind door-to-door or stuff, but these people are usually wayyyyy too persistent and annoying.

almisami

Fashionable Fatcat

7,100 Points
  • Forum Regular 100
  • Tycoon 200
  • Forum Sophomore 300

starfishluvsu

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:47 pm


Someoneiknow
starfishluvsu
Let them go on a mission, whether it's illegal in the country or not! I'm not saying they should harrass people to believe, but spread their message respectfully.


How is it showing respect when they go into a country that kills the individual for even believing in something different?

If you feel you need to go, then go.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:49 pm


almisami
I don't mind door-to-door or stuff, but these people are usually wayyyyy too persistent and annoying.

The Jehovah's Witness people used to come ALLLLL the time! But now they haven't appeared recently...

starfishluvsu


Someoneiknow

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:05 pm


starfishluvsu
Someoneiknow
starfishluvsu
Let them go on a mission, whether it's illegal in the country or not! I'm not saying they should harrass people to believe, but spread their message respectfully.


How is it showing respect when they go into a country that kills the individual for even believing in something different?

If you feel you need to go, then go.


You aren't a martyr for going against the law of the country. Ways are opened, but for countries that are not strict, but when you decide to enter a country to proselytize that beheads you for doing so, you deserve to be beheaded. You went against their rules, their religion, and their rights, so you are not dying a martyr, you are dying a fool.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:07 pm


In Medias Res IV
Someoneiknow
starfishluvsu
Let them go on a mission, whether it's illegal in the country or not! I'm not saying they should harrass people to believe, but spread their message respectfully.


How is it showing respect when they go into a country that kills the individual for even believing in something different?


They don't want you there!

Respect their religion, culture, customs and traditions.

How would you feel it if a muslim showed up at your door and told you that you were going to burn in hell because you do not think Muhammed is a messenger and you HAVE TO convert to Islam?

Wouldn't you be a little ticked off?

I'd sure as hell be ticked off.

In fact, I do get ticked off when the JoHo's or the Mormons come knocking on my door and are persistent. I don't want to hear their message, I don't care about Jesus, I don't care about what they have to say, don't come knocking on my door.

You're not welcomed here.


I don't mind door to door, where it is legal in the state, but to blantantly disregard the countries laws and to step foot, for the sole purpose of stirring up religious thought, I believe that's going against Christ's teachings even.

Someoneiknow


Boudica Celtic Queen

8,400 Points
  • Alchemy Level 1 100
  • Pie Trafficker 100
  • Mark Twain 100
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:34 pm


I don't believe in going to other countries and pushing your (a general "your") religion down their throats however "respectfully" it's done.  
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:21 am


Why is it called "mission"? To me that just screams "Militant!"

And why is it so damn important to go into countries with their own religions, cultures, customs, and traditions (much of which you don't even understand) and push a religion on them that they obviously don't want?

I'm sure many of you would start freaking out if Sharia Law was being forced upon us, what makes your preaching of Jesus to others any different?

In Medias Res IV


rmcdra

Loved Seeker

11,700 Points
  • Forum Sophomore 300
  • Partygoer 500
  • Contributor 150
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:31 am


In Medias Res IV
Why is it called "mission"? To me that just screams "Militant!"

And why is it so damn important to go into countries with their own religions, cultures, customs, and traditions (much of which you don't even understand) and push a religion on them that they obviously don't want?

I'm sure many of you would start freaking out if Sharia Law was being forced upon us, what makes your preaching of Jesus to others any different?

Because sharing the Word does not have to only come by preaching. It is also shown by being decent humans, helping the poor and downtrodden. By standing up for those that don't have a voice. This is why it's called a mission. Converting is only a small part of a mission's duty. It's unfortunate that missions make converting it's main focus.
Reply
Religious Debate

Goto Page: [] [<] 1 2 3 ... 4 5 6 [>] [»|]
 
Manage Your Items
Other Stuff
Get GCash
Offers
Get Items
More Items
Where Everyone Hangs Out
Other Community Areas
Virtual Spaces
Fun Stuff
Gaia's Games
Mini-Games
Play with GCash
Play with Platinum