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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:43 pm
Hello and welcome! Please do excuse me for not greeting you until now.
You know what? The fact you can process your dreams into POSTS tells me you have talent. You've made sense out of whacked out hallucinations brought out by YOUR BRAIN MALFUNCTIONING ON A DAMN TIMETABLE. Think about it. That is AWESOME.
I can't imagine you could possibly be a failure at this point. You just need to find things that work for you. And we're here to help.
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:08 am
saint_savin I can't imagine you could possibly be a failure at this point. You just need to find things that work for you. And we're here to help. Omg, I totally just squeed. I love this guild SO MUCH, I can't even say how happy I am to have found you guys! I've been sort of wondering around trying to bounce ideas off my semi-illiterate friends for so long now, and it just is such a boundless relief to have people who at least appreciate my helpless lust for writing!!! whee
Thank you so much!!!!! heart heart
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:24 pm
Nuuuu, bounce ideas off of us! WE'VE BEEN THERE. We know what we're doing... err, at least we have a better idea of what it is to write than people who don't write of their own volition.
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:28 pm
SO.... yeah, I was sitting here messing around in my e-mail, and I was looking over all the messages I'd gotten from fanfiction.net favoriting my 1 story, or adding me as an author to their favorites list. And I was like, "These poor people actually expect me to write something else!"
And then I was like, "Ohhh... I did write something else. In may. Maybe I should finish it."
So that's the plan for now. ATM, it's 6,109 words, which is like, accomplishment city for me; The one I finished and posted is only 2,951 words, and, I think, like the only thing I've ever finished. I forget to mention it a lot because it's fanfiction and it's so short anyway, and I wrote it when I was like, hallucinating in Spain. I don't really remember writing it, just that I did, with a blanket over my head so that the light of the computer wouldn't keep my parents up. I was like deathly ill and couldn't sleep anyway, so I was like, "I'm going to f**king write something and try and distract myself."
Apparently it worked out pretty well for me. *shrugs*
Anyway, later, in May, I wrote another story, or started to, anyway. Same fandom (South Park), different pairing... and I got pretty far on it before I wondered away. I posted what I had like a month or two ago for my friends, and they were all pretty positive about it, so I figure that I might as well give it a shot!
So this is basically me, in public, pledging to finish the damn thing.
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:33 pm
ANY HELP YOU NEED I WILL HAPPILY GIVE biggrin .
...tell me it's TTGL slash.
/fangirl biggrin
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:52 pm
saint_savin ANY HELP YOU NEED I WILL HAPPILY GIVE biggrin . ...tell me it's TTGL slash. /fangirl biggrin Gurren Lagann? Not quite. It's South Park slash; actuallyyyyy..... I haven't finished watching TTGL because I was too emotionally destroyed after episode 8. I have since vowed to watch the rest of it, but since that was like two days ago, I've been a bit distracted in the meanwhile XDThis is a personal note NOT TO THROW IT AWAY BECAUSE PARTS OF IT ANNOY ME. THAT IS WHAT EDITING IS FOR. /end noteThis kind of thing stresses me out. They always say not to chuck it, but the first time I wrote it, I got stuck and chucked half of it. That was 4,764 words. I deleted 1,759 words and started over. Apparently it worked out pretty well, until now, although now that I'm sitting here, I don't know if I actually did any good either way. I don't really like either version. I think I'm too picky, but I don't know... I've decided the fic's theme song for today is Freak by Emily Haines (formerly lead singer of Metric)
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:26 pm
Today when my sister and I were driving home from Ave. Q, I was talking about how I felt bad because my friend, who I hadn't known was in town, had wanted a ride to Denver, and I would have given her one (that's where the show was) if I'd known she was here. My sister asked why she wanted to go up to Denver, and I said it was to see her cat, and my sister pointed out that that was probably an excuse to see her ex-boyfriend. I insisted that my BFF really was crazy enough to drive all the way to Denver and waste a ton of both of our limited cash supplies just to see her stupid, psychotic, evil, inbred cat--
And here's where it gets interesting. My sister, who was really just thinking out loud, started pointing out all of my friend's specific character traits, the ones I'd never really been able to grasp. I've known this girl for 17 years now and I've never, ever really been able to "get" her, despite our really deep connection and strong, lasting friendship. I think about it a lot, when I try and write about her, how I don't really get what motivates her, ever. She's so chaotic and -loud-, you know?
Anyway the point is, that, as a writer, I was like mega ashamed that this basic personality trait that my sister had so easily identified had completely ILLUDED me for so many years! It's not that I'm a bad friend and that I don't pay attention to her (I spend a lot of time dwelling on her, actually) but it's just another huge, blaring example of how often really simple things (like basic plot) escape me so completely. It made me really sad.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:18 am
Carnemire saint_savin ANY HELP YOU NEED I WILL HAPPILY GIVE biggrin . ...tell me it's TTGL slash. /fangirl biggrin This is a personal note NOT TO THROW IT AWAY BECAUSE PARTS OF IT ANNOY ME. THAT IS WHAT EDITING IS FOR. /end noteThis kind of thing stresses me out. They always say not to chuck it, but the first time I wrote it, I got stuck and chucked half of it. That was 4,764 words. I deleted 1,759 words and started over. Apparently it worked out pretty well, until now, although now that I'm sitting here, I don't know if I actually did any good either way. I don't really like either version. I think I'm too picky, but I don't know... I've decided the fic's theme song for today is Freak by Emily Haines (formerly lead singer of Metric)It's okay to feel stressed out about it, and it's okay to have the urge to go back and re-write or edit what you've already written, but I guerentee that it's going to be ten times harder for you to get it done. I had this problem for a while, going back and editing every chapter before I started the next one, and it absolutely slows you down. Here's the reason why: As time goes by, you mature, and every day that passes, your writing gets that much better. Honestly, you don't even have to write to see a change. For example - if you write a chapter, then don't write anything for a month, then come back to it and try to continue by re-reading what you write, it's extremely hard to continue, because you find so many mistakes in what you've already written, and it's almost instinct to go back and fix it. And I'm not just talking spelling errors or whatever, I'm also talking about your style of writing. See, for that whole month, your brain matured, and now looking back at your writing, you cringe - how could you have possibly written such crap?- and it forces you to need to fix it so you're not embarrassed by it. Totally had that problem for the longest time. Now, however, I've learned a really important lesson: When writing (especially something long, like, I dunno, a novel?), just write the whole damn thing out. From beginning to end (or skipping around, but just get it all done!), before you go back. That way, you feel like you've reached a goal: A hurdle. Not only will you be less stressed out about finishing an entire novel (you just did!), but fixing it up won't take nearly as much time, plus without the added stress, it will fly by much faster (and your family will be happy that you're not snapping at them angrily!), AND your edits will all kind of come together and make more sense as one. It's easier to sync up a novel to make sense if you're not scattered around. Now, after typing all that up (while I should be writing, no less!), it's safe to say that this doesn't work for everyone, but I can say with assurance that every professional that I've ever asked has given me the above answer. ^.^ I know it's a hard habit to brea, but you just have to force yourself out of it. What I did, was tell myself that once I got 10,000 words done, I could go back and read what I wrote, make notes about them, and then continue on. With the next 10,000, I could do the same, and again, the same. Setting goals and limits is a great way to help yourself, and pick rewards for yourself at the end. It does wonders! Carnemire Anyway the point is, that, as a writer, I was like mega ashamed that this basic personality trait that my sister had so easily identified had completely ILLUDED me for so many years! It's not that I'm a bad friend and that I don't pay attention to her (I spend a lot of time dwelling on her, actually) but it's just another huge, blaring example of how often really simple things (like basic plot) escape me so completely. It made me really sad. Don't worry about being unobservent like that. It's actually really good that you've realized it - now it's time to fix it. I've become obsessed with studying people. Really, it's actually very rude, but now I don't even realize that I'm doing it - I actually stare at people when I go out into public - I study their habits. I watch them talk, watch them move, try to hear their tone of voice or inflection. And then I obsess about why they act the way they do. What drives them forward? Why do they respond to people, or why don't they? And why not use your best friend? Ask her (very nicely and respectfully) if she can tell you why she says certain things the way she does? Ask her to dig deep and get to the bottom of it. Why did she reply that way? Why did she ask that question? If it's too personal, that's okay, and sometimes, people just don't know. ^.^
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:26 am
Oh my god, thank you sooooo much for taking the time to write all this out; it's very good advice! One time when I was little, my mom took me to a book signing and I asked the man pretty much the same question, and he said that he had to just write out each chapter and then put them in a drawer until he was done. I was like "Oh, interesting advice," but then I read his book and it sucked, so I didn't pay a lot of attention. sweatdrop I think I was like 12 at the time, though. Still writing Neopets fanfiction. rolleyes
It's true, though, like everything that you said! I have to re-read the stuff to figure out where I was going with it, and I'm just like WHY DID I WRITE THIS. STOP IT NOW. And then I just get all frustrated and off-track. I think my hugest personality flaw is that I'm a HUGE defeatist, and if something goes wrong I usually just give up and look for something else to screw up.
I know it's completely unproductive behavior, and I'm trying really hard to change it, especially when it comes to things I love.
I should do that with my bff, though. And a lot of the time I do, but I think I'm doing it to try and talk her out of whatever it is she's doing; I have (what must be) a really annoying habit of being like, "How is that important?" when my friends are upset about something I think is irrelevant. I'm sure that my wife Sally, if she ever reads this, will be the first to agree. She had to LIVE with me for like a year. xp SO, maybe I should try and change my approach to a more conversational, "why?"
I think I go about characters in a weird way; I don't turn people into characters, I take character traits and turn them into people. It's weird, but I find tiny things about people that interest me and sort of grab them and pile them together until I have somebody who I think seems kind of realistic. I'm not sure if that's the way I should be going about it or not.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:52 pm
Wow! Thank you, Sugar. That was MOST inspirational.
Carnemire, that's because it's all true XD.
I've posted about this in other journals, but my theory of getting work done is "YOU DON'T = IT WON'T". You don't write it, it won't get done. End of story. Literally.
Everyone writes for difference reasons. I get angry that the things I want to read don't exist. So, I write them.
Some things in life, you don't have to know WHY. Writing, you kind of do. If you know why you're writing something as a whole, you can determine the reasons for everything that happens.
AND ANY TIME YOU NEED A PEP TALK YOU KNOW WHERE TO FIND US.
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:06 am
Your darling wife has been watching the first season of Heroes on DVD for the last few days, and thus only stumbled across this today... Although I guess I'm only a day late...
But first a quick question: You can write fanfiction about Neopets??? confused
As far as talking your friends out of things that you find unimportant... In retrospect, you were usually right. Thanks for putting up with my obstinance for a year too. However, the question "why" is a little more... conversational, perhaps, than the question "How is that important," because the latter sort of implies that it's not important. If you're curious about certain personality traits, "objective" observations are probably better than involved (we'll call it subjective) concern for your friend's emotional well-being. So there is a time and a place for everything. If you want to talk me (or Moo) out of doing something stupid for the sake of a boy, or just something stupid in general, stick with the "How is that important" question. But if you just want some deep observations about personality traits and reasoning, the why question is the way to go, yo.
(and this next bit is a comment sort of back to Sugar too) Also, watching people is pretty damn fascinating. And it's not rude (I've decided) if you're doing it for literary purposes! Of course, the person you're staring at in public might think you're a freak, but hey, no one cares what they think.
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:18 am
Hi there!
... And, strangely enough that's all I can think of to say. XD I was just stopping by to say hello, and by the time I got here I'd completely forgotten what else I was going to say. (I blame the fact that I have to leave for the second half of my school day in fifteen minutes, the stress is addling my brain). So, rather than wait until I remember what else I was going to say, I'm going to do a very Kitty-ish thing and just jump straight in and post anyway. Nothing like a Big Hello from crazy maniac with amnesia, right? mrgreen
So... Now, you have a random greeting to clutter up your thread. I apologise in advance. XD
And, hello. xd
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Psychotic Maniacal Sanity Crew
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:15 am
HI PMS/KITTY. biggrin Don't ever worry about like, cluttering this thing or getting off track, because I'm not quite sure it HAS a track. Think of my brain not so much as a train, but as a very dizzy, near-sighted person wondering through a very cluttered forest. There really isn't a wrong way to go, unless you like--- well, I could come up with several gruesome woods related incidents that would be unpleasant, but you know what I mean. *twitch* Thanks for saying hi :3sally_black But first a quick question: You can write fanfiction about Neopets??? confused Dude, you have no idea. I wrote EPIC stories about neopets. That was back in the day when Dr Sloth was still the main villain, (actually, if I'm going to be honest, it was just after the Space Faerie defeated him and he became a mega LAME BOT). Anyway, I wrote a really, really ridiculous story about a little Wocky girl named Fidget and a White Lupe named Ith (I'd already gotten Pepper by this point, and only wanted things that looked like wolves/shepherds) Um I think there was like a dimensional rift involved, and code stones, and they kidnapped humans and like neopets and there was a boy named Dicken and a chick named.... something gay like Ivy or... plant.... I forget. O_o (Before you ask, Sally, it wasn't Violet.) Weirdly enough, I was also reading JtHM at the time, and remember trying to channel Happy Noodle Boy into Plant very unsuccessfully. It's weird how at that age the highest form of humor is just like screaming things that make absolutely no sense.
Oh maybe I'm confusing two stories I wrote, and Fidget isn't in this one. I wrote so many goddamned stories about Neopets. I even had a spinoff comic of Dr. Jekyll, Mrs. Hyde, which, as a young impressionable child, thrilled me in ways I can no longer explain. I had an RPG that has since turned into Fraggle Cemetery, which is the video game I'm planning on writing one of these days.
idk, the internet was still really exciting back in those days. I spent all my time on Petz spin!chats, downloading skins and breeds for my dogz and ******** around on Neopets, feeling thrilled by Midis and animated gifs. Life was good back then. I spent a lot of time making faerie pixel dolls.
... I just spent a bit of time going through the bizallions of old files I still have, and here's a quote. Her name is Isabelle; her SISTER'S name is Ivy. Who'da thunk.Quote: Isabelle had been contemplating the mysteries of life, the universe and everything, with the aid of a book written by the man she thought had all the answers: Douglas Adams. The book lay open to a page discussing quantum physics, a subject that perplexed Isabelle so much, she didn’t even know where to start. She looked contemplative for a moment as she looked out at the rising moon, it’s image swollen, yet crisp. She looked at it, so lost in it’s face that she almost didn’t notice when aliens landed on her lawn. I think it's funny that I was writing about Quantum Physics (not really ABOUT it, but w/e) when I was 12 & 13. Anyway, that was a random, unrelated chapter; I have a couple of strains of this particular fic, and in the longest version, she's introduced last. Even after Ith finds out that Fidget (who really is in this fic after all) betrays him and joins Dr Sloth for POWER and to SEEK REVENGE on her mean brother. sally_black Also, watching people is pretty damn fascinating. And it's not rude (I've decided) if you're doing it for literary purposes! Of course, the person you're staring at in public might think you're a freak, but hey, no one cares what they think. LOL. My art teacher says that artists (and that includes writers) are naturally voyeurs. I was like YES I AM FINALLY JUSTIFIED. Anyway about all that other stuff... idk yeah. We can talk about that later smile I MISS YOU. SO MUCH. *sob* saint_savin Wow! Thank you, Sugar. That was MOST inspirational. I've posted about this in other journals, but my theory of getting work done is "YOU DON'T = IT WON'T". You don't write it, it won't get done. End of story. Literally. Everyone writes for difference reasons. I get angry that the things I want to read don't exist. So, I write them. Oh man, I'm the same way! I definitely get frustrated by the lack of things that I find enthralling these days, and that includes like fandom and even styles of art/writing. Right now I want to make a ton of pixel art, but I haven't the slightest clue how to begin. Also think there should be more vector art out there.
As far as writing goes, I think that there should be more meaningful horror, and more stories that are just generally messed up and painful, but also inspiring and charming. I think Joss Whedon and Holly Black are pretty good at that sort of thing, and like I said, I'm majorly into Silent Hill. I just want MOAR. GWAR. rolleyes
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:03 pm
saint_savin Wow! Thank you, Sugar. That was MOST inspirational. *bows* I have my (rare) moments. xd saint_savin AND ANY TIME YOU NEED A PEP TALK YOU KNOW WHERE TO FIND US. This is true. Savin is like, the all-mighty being of pep-talks. Fo' real. Carnemire Dude, you have no idea. I wrote EPIC stories about neopets. Lol. I wrote epic stories about Inuyasha. And before that it was Gundam Wing and Sailor Moon. My mom used to give me crap. She'd read them and say: "Honey, this is so great! Why aren't you writing original stuff? You're wasting your time and talent!" And then I'd say: "Foo, Mom! I get attention from fanfiction!" And then I'd hog up the family computer.
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:07 pm
I'm going on a reading binge as soon as I get finished here. I haven't read anything substantial or good in a year D:.
...
I might have to repost my eventual review hoard here.
At the very least, you'll know about anything good that I find! Hell yeah!
YOU ARE A GOOD WRITER AND YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH A LOT.
There ^^.
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