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 Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 5:20 pm
cellphonetragedy Gambol cellphonetragedy Catholism is different from Christianity.... Incorrect. Catholicism is a denomination of Christianity. yet at the core it has a lot of different beliefs... Like what?
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:20 pm
cellphonetragedy Gambol cellphonetragedy Catholism is different from Christianity.... Incorrect. Catholicism is a denomination of Christianity. yet at the core it has a lot of different beliefs...
For goodness sakes, there are tons of Christian denominations. Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, Pentacostle, Episcopalians, Catholics, even non-denominationals!
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Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:34 pm
i dont think the hp book series are cristian books because they talk about wizards, and evil stuff so i voted no for my voting of posts.
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:28 am
Many great authors don't intend to have things in their novels but when written, things are discovered. There's symbolism in things they didn't think about. Perhaps it was subconscious or just chance. But when I read the series I did see some symbolism that could relate to Christianity. So Rowling didn't intend for it. So?
As for talking about wizards. CS Lewis wrote his Narnia series to be religious but they have witches and talking animals. Does that mean it's not a religious book? No. razz
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:44 pm
Lady Kayura Many great authors don't intend to have things in their novels but when written, things are discovered. There's symbolism in things they didn't think about. Perhaps it was subconscious or just chance. But when I read the series I did see some symbolism that could relate to Christianity. So Rowling didn't intend for it. So?
As for talking about wizards. CS Lewis wrote his Narnia series to be religious but they have witches and talking animals. Does that mean it's not a religious book? No. razz I COMPLETLY AGREE
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:11 am
The Wild Eyed Dream EVERY Christian denomination has different beliefs. I doesn't make either any less Christian as long as they believe the only way to salvation is through Jesus Christ. Which is what Catholics DO believe.
For goodness sakes, there are tons of Christian denominations. Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, Pentacostle, Episcopalians, Catholics, even non-denominationals! Precisely.
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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:08 am
Gambol The Wild Eyed Dream EVERY Christian denomination has different beliefs. I doesn't make either any less Christian as long as they believe the only way to salvation is through Jesus Christ. Which is what Catholics DO believe.
For goodness sakes, there are tons of Christian denominations. Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, Pentacostle, Episcopalians, Catholics, even non-denominationals! Precisely. yet they beleive in having to "do works to earn forgiveness"
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:04 am
I wil say in the seventh book there pretty much a Bible verse on Lily and James' tomb, and the Christian overtones in that book are pretty strong. You also have to consider JKR is Christian and the western world is predominently Christian. No matter what you believe, your thoughts and actions reflect Christianity in some way. Most literature today has some form of Biblical allusion in it, including Harry Potter.
But I wouldn't say its Christian. Of course, its not evil either. It's just a work of fiction people read for enjoyment. Nothing more, nothing less.
And Catholics are definetly Christian- heck they're the original Christian- everything broke off from them.
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:36 pm
Hm... I don't think there was a Christian core *intentionally.*
However, now that I think about it...
Voldemort resembles a serpent, and remember the Devil as a serpent?
Then, there is Lucifer Malfoy, and Lucifer is another name for Satan.
The Gryfindor *lion* defeating Slytherin *snake*
Then the fact that almost all the people in Slytherin were decisive, mean, rude, evil, etc. like Satan, and the sign for Slytherin is a snake~
And... well.... yup! That's all I could think of right now~
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:33 pm
mazuac
Hm... I don't think there was a Christian core *intentionally.*
However, now that I think about it...
Voldemort resembles a serpent, and remember the Devil as a serpent?
Then, there is Lucifer Malfoy, and Lucifer is another name for Satan.
The Gryfindor *lion* defeating Slytherin *snake*
Then the fact that almost all the people in Slytherin were decisive, mean, rude, evil, etc. like Satan, and the sign for Slytherin is a snake~
And... well.... yup! That's all I could think of right now~
Overall, its just a story of good vs evil, which is pretty much almost every story.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:48 pm
freelance lover mazuac
Hm... I don't think there was a Christian core *intentionally.*
However, now that I think about it...
Voldemort resembles a serpent, and remember the Devil as a serpent?
Then, there is Lucifer Malfoy, and Lucifer is another name for Satan.
The Gryfindor *lion* defeating Slytherin *snake*
Then the fact that almost all the people in Slytherin were decisive, mean, rude, evil, etc. like Satan, and the sign for Slytherin is a snake~
And... well.... yup! That's all I could think of right now~
Overall, its just a story of good vs evil, which is pretty much almost every story.Genesis 3: 14-15 The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, cursed are you above all cattle, and above all wild animals; upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel." He shall bruise your head and you shall bruise his heel. The serpent is a representation of the devil in the genesis story as revelations tells us. Revelations 12:9 "And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world -- he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him."
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:30 am
CCubed freelance lover mazuac
Hm... I don't think there was a Christian core *intentionally.*
However, now that I think about it...
Voldemort resembles a serpent, and remember the Devil as a serpent?
Then, there is Lucifer Malfoy, and Lucifer is another name for Satan.
The Gryfindor *lion* defeating Slytherin *snake*
Then the fact that almost all the people in Slytherin were decisive, mean, rude, evil, etc. like Satan, and the sign for Slytherin is a snake~
And... well.... yup! That's all I could think of right now~
Overall, its just a story of good vs evil, which is pretty much almost every story.Genesis 3: 14-15 The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, cursed are you above all cattle, and above all wild animals; upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel." He shall bruise your head and you shall bruise his heel. The serpent is a representation of the devil in the genesis story as revelations tells us. Revelations 12:9 "And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world -- he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him."
And besides, does this mean all snakes are of the devil? No. I still don't see any mention of the devil in the Gensis story. All I see is an etiological myth as to why snakes look the way they do. Sorry.
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:45 pm
freelance lover CCubed freelance lover mazuac
Hm... I don't think there was a Christian core *intentionally.*
However, now that I think about it...
Voldemort resembles a serpent, and remember the Devil as a serpent?
Then, there is Lucifer Malfoy, and Lucifer is another name for Satan.
The Gryfindor *lion* defeating Slytherin *snake*
Then the fact that almost all the people in Slytherin were decisive, mean, rude, evil, etc. like Satan, and the sign for Slytherin is a snake~
And... well.... yup! That's all I could think of right now~
Overall, its just a story of good vs evil, which is pretty much almost every story.Genesis 3: 14-15 The LORD God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this, cursed are you above all cattle, and above all wild animals; upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel." He shall bruise your head and you shall bruise his heel. The serpent is a representation of the devil in the genesis story as revelations tells us. Revelations 12:9 "And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world -- he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him."
And besides, does this mean all snakes are of the devil? No. I still don't see any mention of the devil in the Gensis story. All I see is an etiological myth as to why snakes look the way they do. Sorry.Fine one bible verse that mentions a serpent but doesn't refer to it as evil or devil-like or satan himself.
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:55 pm
no. hp series is not Christian. there are certain parallels you can get if you tread it the right way, yes, but even the author of the books publically professed being a witch.
the Bible prohibits-quite clearly-any and all forms of witchcraft, fortune tellers, magicians and the like.
do i read them because they are excellently written pieces of fantsy-yes
do i believe any of rowling's beliefs-no
and not all snakes are of the devil. God created everything. satan never made anything-he simply perverted God's creation. God made snakes.
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:43 pm
I don't think so, however, in the 7th book, she quotes scripture on a headstone in Godric's Hollow... and the very end is very similar to the story of a certain savior I know... and the whole series is very much demonstrating the kind of internal struggle we go through as Christians. But I don't think she meant it to be.
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