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 Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:10 am
I'm a mishmash of Shinto, Wicca, Unitarian Universalism, and Buddhism, and I celebrate Christian holidays.
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:03 pm
I don't think it is possible to totally and completly fuse two faiths together and accept both as "Truth". There will be points where the two may clash and you would be forced to choose one "Truth".
For example, you can't both believe in monotheism and polythiesm at once. You can't believe that Jesus is the Son of God and not the Son of God at once.
But it certainly is possible to take parts of one faith and parts of another.
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:00 am
Captain Jack Sporky techie nerd thank you all i lately have com to believe that "God" is everything (pantheistic) much like the brahman of the muslims sorry if i spelled that wrong You spelled muslim right, but I think you mean Hinduism. 3nodding And as to the actual question of the thread, since I belive that most major religions were founded by God, there's no need to fuse them because their already one. 3nodding biggrin But, on another level, I think religions can only be fused if their FUNDAMENTAL teachings are the same, not nessasarily the clergy's view. i agree with you, and also agree that brahman is hindu and is a universal "ground of being". i would add that some beliefs are compatible and others are not. Hinduism made room for Gotama Buddha in its pantheon of gods (although in an insultingly inferior position). Shinto is a blend of early japanese animism (shamns, paganism, spirits, ancestor worship) and confucianism with some buddhism tossed in. but there are major differences that might not blend well together. Judaism, Christianity and Islam all belief that hissory has a beginning and end, a creation and a day of judgment; that history has meaning and direction and prophets have a role in calling people back to this destiny. Hinduism and Buddhism and somewhat Shinto and Chinese native rligions are not like that. Creation is not a major doctrine. there is no destiny, no day of judgment, no prophecy. the world just keeps on going in an endless cycle of rebirth, suffering, death and rebirth. it's hard to see how those differences could be worked out.
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 3:15 pm
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 5:23 pm
Many Unitarians are also members of other religions.
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:22 am
Yumi Morioto thank you all i lately have com to believe that "God" is everything (pantheistic) much like the brahman of the muslims sorry if i spelled that wrong but also that he is always there and jesus was his son but you can bring both of them closer during a ritual inside of the circle i also believe that the one spirit is very versitile and that after my human shell dies i shall have a place to achieve perfection and in turn be united with the spirit whom i call God of all I have studied various religions for years and have a strong working knowledge of basic Christian doctrine as well as the fundamentals of Wicca. I can say that both Christianity and Wicca tend towards very structured beliefs with little flexibility, but I think an open minded deeply spiritual person can combine the fundamental structures of the two if that's what fits best. Most Christians and Wiccans would say that you wouldn't fit into their category, but the important thing is to fit your own soul. It is possible to have pagan beliefs and Christian beliefs. It is possible to practice magic and still worship Jehovah and Christ. Those I know who do this usually call themselves Christian witches, though they would likely keep this to themselves among fellow church-goers to avoid controversy and judgement. It sounds to me like you have pretty firm idea of deity and a strong sense of faith. Stick with that and do what feels right to you in regards to worship/ritual/prayer/meditation/magic/etc. and you'll be fine. Just remember that religion is a guide but spirituality is completely personal and only you can decide what fits your soul.
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 5:23 pm
Hello everyone. Can Christianity, Judaism, islam, Zoroastarianism be fused in some areas to make one belief.Thanks, everybody talk to me because all replys are welcome. 3nodding biggrin cool
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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 5:28 pm
Hi Sacrredimage. whee whee biggrin
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:08 pm
Sure you can. You just need to work at it. Actually, crazily enough, I'm in the same situation as you. Isn't that wierd.....? Anyways, maybe we could PM each other and talk about this...
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:29 pm
I see a lot of people who blend religions/pantheons, but not all of them do it appropriately. I think it's OK to blend religions so long as those religions do not have any aspects which are mutually exclusive (it'd be impossible to appropriately combine Judaism, Christianity, or Islam with another religion, for instance, since all of them share the same "Jealous God" who does not approve of his followers following any other religion than his- and each of those religions teach that they alone are correctly following his religion), and so long as you were willing to put in the extra effort to honor each god or goddess in a context which was appropriate to him or her. I think that to do otherwise is disrespectful of the deity (like saying that you're too good to learn his or her forms of address, and that if they want to talk to you then they have to do all the work themselves) not to mention detrimental to any developing relationship between the deity and the worshiper (because you don't learn as much about the deity or the religion/culture which he or she formed, and any interaction takes place without this vital frame of context).
I find that to effectively follow a religion, you have to submerge yourself into that religion's worldview. Now, so long as the point of view each religion takes toward the world is complimentary or not very different, that won't pose much of a problem. But there are some religions which view the world around them in a very different way- so even if their religious tenets don't directly conflict with one another, you'd have to be bordering on multiple personality disorder to engage in both of them.
For these reasons, I personally feel that it's more effective to find a religion and dedicate yourself to it, rather than to mix and match religions. But it can be done.
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:33 pm
Cyanna I don't think it is possible to totally and completly fuse two faiths together and accept both as "Truth". There will be points where the two may clash and you would be forced to choose one "Truth". I have to disagree with you, there. A friend of mine who follows Heathen beliefs (Asatru) once mentioned that in her beliefs, the end of the world is simultaneously not yet here and already having occurred. Quote: For example, you can't both believe in monotheism and polythiesm at once. I do. I believe that all gods are aspects of one Greater Light, who is the Parent, Source, and Existence of all. But I believe that all those facets exist, even if only as facets on a crystal. Although I think that's actually called Pantheism. Quote: You can't believe that Jesus is the Son of God and not the Son of God at once. Again, I do. I believe that Jesus was the biological son of a carpenter and his wife; I also believe that Jesus was the son and true messenger of the Greater Light. I believe Jesus died on the cross and was simultaneously buried, with his body still left to rot, and also raised from the dead to convey, though his message and remembrance, hope and enlightenment to his followers. Quote: But it certainly is possible to take parts of one faith and parts of another. True; and it is definitely possible to be Christian with a Wiccan mindset, or to use Wiccan patterning to follow Christ. Of course, I'm a Christian heretic operating from a Wiccan and Unitarian Universalist framework with Gnostic leanings, so I tend to have an oddly angled view on things.
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:30 pm
I am having the same problem, though I am not a hardcore Christian I do not follow the bible due to fear that my beliefs are "ridiculed"
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:26 pm
Being a Christian Mystic who's been down the path of fusing Christianity and Wicca/Witchcraft/Paganism (in that order), I can say that it won't be easy. First, you need to look at whether you like the rituals of the religion or the theology of the religion, then you need to dissect parts of it that you like.
It's much easier to fuse a religious belief with a spiritual practice than two religious beliefs.
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:06 am
Why not? Believe what you want, nothing can change that.
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:34 pm
Through assimilation and elimination, the Native world view has become (to many) a mixture of Native beliefs and Christian beliefs.
Originally, it was the Jesuits who started the conversion because they thought that they were 'saving' the ntv souls. After a while, once settlements began, residential schools were initiated and the children were forced to speak English and worship Christ. These children lost their language and their knowledge. After their traumatic experiences at the schools (Including harassment, isolation, molestation, physical, and mental abuse) these children grew up and were not accepted back into their communities because they could no longer communicate with them. Years went by, and they had children. These new families then sought out their heritage and accepted it into their Christian doctrines.
An example of a mix of beliefs has been demonstrated in Norval Morisseau's shocking artwork. Morisseau created a whole new form of art that expressed this mixture of beliefs. He created a whole new style on native art that expressed native views mixed with Christian views. Wikepedia has a few examples of this. This view was hard for most people to accept as 'native art' since it wasn't 'traditional'. As well, many natives enjoyed the art because it combined what they believe in and was able to unify the people who had this mixture of beliefs.
Today I myself give thanks every morning. I give thanks for my roomates, for my education, for my family, for Christ, for the sky, for the waters, for the day. (Of course I usually change it up a bit... lol).
Well, Morrisseau is one example of this... his artwork is actually all over my university, i love seeing it everyday!
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