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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:13 am
well at one point i was soley christain and now i still believe that but now i believe a lot of wicca and feel empoweered during a ritual any opinions
by the way i am formarly angry the dark mage xd xp domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun domokun
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 2:25 pm
if you follow the bible strictly, you cannot place any other god, as high as or higher than god, you are also not allowed to do magic, according to the bible, so it is impossible to mix a strict bible following form of christianity and most forms of paganism (the ones with other gods and/or magic). However, if you can accept that the bible may be flawed, that is the only way to blend those two religions, but, if you believe the bible is flawed, you aren't really christian are you?
so, really with those two, you are one or the other, you are either wiccan, or christian. However, if you are wiccan you can believe in the christian pantheon, if you choose to, but you wouldn't be considered christian, because you don't adhere strictly to the bible.
hope that answers your question.
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:23 pm
No offense to anyone, but I believe that Wicca is a fusion of the beliefs of many different religions (and other forms of thought). In fact, many religions borrow ideas from other religions. I honestly do not know of a single religion that is completley "original" in that reguard.
However, if you look at the topic from the perspective of combining two completley seperate religions, yes, I believe it can be done, so long as the two religions combined do not majorly conflict with each other. For example, you cannot combine Roman Catholocism and Wicca... the two religions are so different that it just doesn't work.
However, there is always an exception to the argument. In the seventeen and eighteen hundreds, a new religion emerged in the south United States and some of the atlantic islands. It combined Catholocism with many different pantheistic religions from Africa. This new religion was called Voudoun or Voodoo. It has since come to be the major religion of at least one country and has over a hundred of thousand followers in the US.
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:33 pm
I believe that's part of the point of Wicca... the acceptance of all positive religions into one practice....
But for some cases I think it is possible...no offence or anything, but I don't believe it is with Christianity... I mean, I consider myself Jewish-Agnostic...simply because while I am Agnostic, I do believe in a general "superior being" and my beliefs lean more closely to those of Jewish Practice than anything else. I think that if you're going to fuse religions together, Agnostic, or Wiccan, is the way to lean because they're the least... specific... They're not "It's this way or no way" [[Not by any means saying that other religions are]] With the exception of Muslim, Christianity, some branches of Judism... among others... I think most religions can be fused with Wicca [or general Paganism] or Agnostism...
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:41 pm
Yes, you can fuse two religions together. Christianity and Buddhism seem made for each other sometimes. Wicca and Christainity....eh.
I wanted to convert to wicca and simpy replace "the goddess and god" with God, but it just didnt' work. Your beliefs can change, but you can't force them to change just by wanting them too. However, I'm sure there is a way to fit them together. They might just change a bit in the fusing.
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Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:22 pm
Christian Gnosticism and Hinduism and elements of Jewish Kabbalah and Buddhism and Taoism could all mesh together quite well. That about comprises my beliefs, although I do acknowledge elements of Zoroastrianism as well.
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 5:55 am
thank you all i lately have com to believe that "God" is everything (pantheistic) much like the brahman of the muslims sorry if i spelled that wrong but also that he is always there and jesus was his son but you can bring both of them closer during a ritual inside of the circle i also believe that the one spirit is very versitile and that after my human shell dies i shall have a place to achieve perfection and in turn be united with the spirit whom i call God of all
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:47 am
techie nerd thank you all i lately have com to believe that "God" is everything (pantheistic) much like the brahman of the muslims sorry if i spelled that wrong but also that he is always there and jesus was his son but you can bring both of them closer during a ritual inside of the circle i also believe that the one spirit is very versitile and that after my human shell dies i shall have a place to achieve perfection and in turn be united with the spirit whom i call God of all Hmm... Christian, to a point, there's a bit of Druidism in there, though the 'God is in all' concept is not strictly Druidic either. Me... I'm... Ecclectic. Christian morality meets the God and Goddess, mix with meditation ((Still working on it...)) and energy manipulation. Spirits, devils, angels, ghosts... all of them exist. Communication between this world and others is completely possible, and many 'psychic' abilities are useable. Note, I've yet to witness or experience telekinesis, though telepathy is a common occurance around me I've found. Anyway, there's the... cliffnotes version of my beliefs.
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Man-Hungry Conversationalist
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:00 pm
I don't believe Jewish beliefs and Christian beliefs can mix...
The primary difference between the two religions is their view on Jesus Christ, you can have one or the other...not both... Therefore, those two religions cannot mix...
Alright, commenting on what you believe in... Yes...it seems like a mix between some Wiccan Naturalism or Druidism...and Christianity... Actually a rather nice mix...depending on the particular branch of Christianity the two can flow well.
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 3:30 pm
techie nerd thank you all i lately have com to believe that "God" is everything (pantheistic) much like the brahman of the muslims sorry if i spelled that wrong You spelled muslim right, but I think you mean Hinduism. 3nodding And as to the actual question of the thread, since I belive that most major religions were founded by God, there's no need to fuse them because their already one. 3nodding biggrin But, on another level, I think religions can only be fused if their FUNDAMENTAL teachings are the same, not nessasarily the clergy's view.
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:22 am
Captain Jack Sporky techie nerd thank you all i lately have com to believe that "God" is everything (pantheistic) much like the brahman of the muslims sorry if i spelled that wrong You spelled muslim right, but I think you mean Hinduism. 3nodding And as to the actual question of the thread, since I belive that most major religions were founded by God, there's no need to fuse them because their already one. 3nodding biggrin But, on another level, I think religions can only be fused if their FUNDAMENTAL teachings are the same, not nessasarily the clergy's view. xd redface yeah hinduism
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:25 pm
A Murder of Angels No offense to anyone, but I believe that Wicca is a fusion of the beliefs of many different religions (and other forms of thought). In fact, many religions borrow ideas from other religions. I honestly do not know of a single religion that is completley "original" in that reguard. However, if you look at the topic from the perspective of combining two completley seperate religions, yes, I believe it can be done, so long as the two religions combined do not majorly conflict with each other. For example, you cannot combine Roman Catholocism and Wicca... the two religions are so different that it just doesn't work. However, there is always an exception to the argument. In the seventeen and eighteen hundreds, a new religion emerged in the south United States and some of the atlantic islands. It combined Catholocism with many different pantheistic religions from Africa. This new religion was called Voudoun or Voodoo. It has since come to be the major religion of at least one country and has over a hundred of thousand followers in the US. I believe that "original" one would have to be the very first form of Paganism ever created, very different from modern Paganism, and other than that we know next to nothing about it. Except that it involves animals. Basically, the only original religion is the concept of religion in and of itself.
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A Murder of Angels Captain
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 11:12 pm
Naeryn A Murder of Angels No offense to anyone, but I believe that Wicca is a fusion of the beliefs of many different religions (and other forms of thought). In fact, many religions borrow ideas from other religions. I honestly do not know of a single religion that is completley "original" in that reguard. *snip* I believe that "original" one would have to be the very first form of Paganism ever created, very different from modern Paganism, and other than that we know next to nothing about it. Except that it involves animals. Basically, the only original religion is the concept of religion in and of itself. Actually, I take back that statement of "originality," but only slightly. There are a few very brief examples of COMPLETE originality in religion, and those are Animism (the involvement of animals that you mentioned), and Shamanism. Truth be told, depending on your definiton of Paganism, Paganism was neither the first religion in existance nor the most original. Shamanism is the true root of all religion. Shamanism in it's purest and simplest form originated when humans first learned to talk, and pre-dates even the "idea" of God. In it's earliest form it was simply a set pattern of movements performed over the kill of a hunt, or a gesture of respect to the tribe leader. Simple patterns that later came to be called ritual. But when the ability to speak rose in humans, ideas were now able to be shared. Tribes interacted. Ideas mixed and clashed. And it's these ideas that formed the religions we know today.
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:49 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:02 am
Personally I'm a Christian who's looking at other religions to see if I could apply some of their teachings to my life to better myself spiritually which would hopefully have an effect on me emotionally and physically too. I don't see why you can't fuse religions. I mean, if you try to fuse Buddhism with Wicca than I might say you can't do that (doesn't make sense to me but if you can find a way by all means go ahead) but if it's something like Modernism and Buddhism or something I'm pretty sure you could do that. Since I practice Christianity but like the basic views of Buddhism, some Modernism and Gnostism, and some other ones I don't know the name of I guess I can say I've fused some. They're not together as one belief though. They're just a mix of bases I like to live by because they make me connect better Spiritually and feel better as a person. However I should make it clear that I believe Jesus is the Savior and way to Heaven. So I'm mainly Christian who just likes the views of other beliefs I suppose.
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