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Exactly! I hope to be a stay at home mom someday, but... that's just because I love caring for kids... not cause I want 17 of them out of my body! (I'm planning on having 2, then adopting more, to the amount I can afford/handle, and with experience in childcare already, and a fiance going into a well-paying career due to his major in college, and the fact I'm willing to foster-adopt... there may be a lot of kids in my future, but BECAUSE of my experience, I know how many I can handle) The Duggars give even religious people a bad name... Babywise, I've heard of it, it's DANGEROUS..

If you don't have time to give your kids love, don't have them.

With nations comes with the myth that the world is carved into huge chunks of territories owned by certain humans. This was an effective belief system back in the colonial/pre-colonial days. But how long can we sustain that ideology? Can a wolf, beaver, gazelle, or bear not cross an imaginary border, a human-construct?

What we haven't collectively realized is that we live on one land, one world, and the environmental destruction in Brazil's rainforest, for example, affects people all the way across to Japan. And the Japanese ambitiously overfishing the waters due to their cultural preference for fish affects our future grandchildren when there will be nothing in the oceans of the world except slimy bacteria goo and jellyfish.

...Not to mention that the more industrialized nations exploit the developing nations in order to be where they are now, standing high in wealth and resources.

We are in an era where many multi-national companies have as much wealth, power, and prestige as a nation. Infact, these corporations often supersede the "law of the land" wherever they go- look at companies like Coca Cola if ya don't believe me. And there's much lobbying interests here and there to twist things to the company's favor. Nations just aren't as sovereign as they used to be.

* I really don't know myself how to examine my own post here. Having "territory" lends itself to security. Like, for example, when you buy a house with land on it, you feel secure that you "own" space for yourself away from anyone else, and it's protective. Or only the feeling of protection, since invasions can and do happen. No one likes their "space" invaded. at the same time... ultimately... can we really say we own anything afterall? For example, I have nearly 2 acres of land... can I prevent birds, squirrels, possums, stray dogs, and deer from stepping on my land? no...

The Dugger mother pisses me off to no end.
I watched the shows that they had and the entire time she bossed her kids around, I didn't ever see her cuddling her kids or giving them kisses. And her "buddy system" looked more like forced parenting if not neglect to me.
The only thing you ever see her do is laundry and perhaps throw something in the oven, the older kids do practicly everything else.
Anyways...
I felt so sorry for their children, they all seemed unhappy despite the smiles (which all seemed forced) and very uptight.

I just thought of this, to give birth to all her kids.... wouldn't she have been pregnant for almost ten years?

The thing that really irks me about the Duggars is that it doesn't appear that Michele actually does any real, well, parenting. Due to the 'buddy system' they have in place, it looks more like the other kids are the ones who are actually performing the day-to-day drudgery of parenting each other while Michele has little to no involvement beyond scheduling and basic home maintenance.

If it weren't for the fact that the kids have little to no exposure to the outside world (and therefore, no experience with other families to compare/contrast with,) I wouldn't be surprized if the kids resented their parents for gypping them out of a full childhood experience. But seeing as that's all they know, they probably don't know any better.

For the Quiverfull movement as a whole, I think it's irresponsible like whoa to have umpty-bajillion kids. Unless the parents are independently wealthy and lead an eco-friendly lifestyle, I find it hard to believe that they can afford to raise these kids well or not put a dent in an already unstable environment and its natural resources.

And why don't these people adopt, for crying out loud? Why do these Quiverfull types always have to have a child shot straight from their loins? If they want to have s**t-tons of kids for the Lord, why won't they adopt some in need of a loving home and raise them? There's no need to breed when there's so many kids already available.

I continually wonder why she hasn't had a prolapsed uterus yet... or why after so many pregnancies she isn't a withered shell of her youthful self.

I know the v****a is a resilent organ and all,
but don't you ponder if she is just like......flapping in the wind down there?

Isn't that how she said her last pregnancy was?
Like she went into labor and it was over in an hour?


ECHO! ecccchhoooo!...... eccchhooo!..... ecchoo!....... echo!

If I ever meet her in real life I'm going to scream 'echo!' or 'Hello!' at her crotch. xd