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 Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:53 am
I was born and raised a Christian, or more like a Lutheran (that's the main religion up here in the North), but some years ago, a lot of s**t happened to me and I stopped believing in a higher power, at least to an extent. I should say that I'm an agnostic, I will believe when there's proof shown to me that there is a said higher power.
I'm also intrigued by the Buddhist lifestyle, meditation is quite calming. I took a world religion class in high school, where we learnt about all sorts of religions and went to visit a few places where people practise these religions. We went to a Mosque, a Jewish place (can never remember what it's called), a Hare Krishna temple (they were weird, I would't accustom to their beliefs), and a Buddhist temple, where we meditated. I don't think my über Cristian parents would support me much if I decided to turn Buddhist... so, I'll stick with being an agnostic with a Lutheran background. I won't quit my church though, because if I ever do get married, it would be nice to have a proper church wedding. And Christianity has some good points as a religion too.
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:26 am
I am a Christian. And as Cruor said there is proof of God's existance there.
I believe even in science one can prove God's existance. Even though many people argue that Humans are a product of evolution and the world began with a big bang. You still have to ask where did these reactions come from and what set these reactions off.
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:43 am
But if all humankind came from only Adam and Eve, then wouldn't that be incestuous? And there are other things that I've found odd in the Bible, yes, I've read the Bible a few times.
I'm also a bit of a Satanist, I believe in the evil in the world, I believe it exists along with good. Satanism =/= worshipping Satan.
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:19 am
Dark_Mana But if all humankind came from only Adam and Eve, then wouldn't that be incestuous? And there are other things that I've found odd in the Bible, yes, I've read the Bible a few times.
I'm also a bit of a Satanist, I believe in the evil in the world, I believe it exists along with good. Satanism =/= worshipping Satan. And it also doesn't really explain how all the nationalities came to be.
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:16 pm
The War Starter I really don't like thinking about the possibility of an afterlife existing. What if there isn't one? It shakes my very foundation and scares the s**t out of me. All is just a black void, then, and the short span of life we had means very little in the grand scheme of things, the world will mov... okay, I'm just not going to think about it. sweatdrop as an existentialist, i revel in the absurdity of an existence without essence. cruor - two things. first, what do you think of pascal's wager? even as an atheist i think there are logical and theological flaws with pascal's idea, yet what you said seems to support it. also, you're mixing up theory and postulate. in science a theory may or may not be proven beyond doubt, but it has been proven as best as can be done under our current circumstances. a postulate is unproven. example: the theory of gravity (yes, check a physics textbook, it's a theory) has been proven. evolution has not been proven beyond a doubt, but it is the most scientifically sensible conclusion given the evidence we have, so we could call it "half-proven." even if evolution is right, that doesnt mean christianity is bunk - if god's all powerful, i'm sure he could've designed creatures so that they would evolve. i really dont understand why so many christians seem to think evolution is completely incompatible with christianity. *shrugs*
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:35 pm
Gravechylde Dark_Mana But if all humankind came from only Adam and Eve, then wouldn't that be incestuous? And there are other things that I've found odd in the Bible, yes, I've read the Bible a few times.
I'm also a bit of a Satanist, I believe in the evil in the world, I believe it exists along with good. Satanism =/= worshipping Satan. And it also doesn't really explain how all the nationalities came to be. I could give you a very crude racist theory I have.
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Digital Malevolence Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:37 pm
Digital Malevolence Gravechylde Dark_Mana But if all humankind came from only Adam and Eve, then wouldn't that be incestuous? And there are other things that I've found odd in the Bible, yes, I've read the Bible a few times.
I'm also a bit of a Satanist, I believe in the evil in the world, I believe it exists along with good. Satanism =/= worshipping Satan. And it also doesn't really explain how all the nationalities came to be. I could give you a very crude racist theory I have.
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:27 am
Digital Malevolence Gravechylde Dark_Mana But if all humankind came from only Adam and Eve, then wouldn't that be incestuous? And there are other things that I've found odd in the Bible, yes, I've read the Bible a few times.
I'm also a bit of a Satanist, I believe in the evil in the world, I believe it exists along with good. Satanism =/= worshipping Satan. And it also doesn't really explain how all the nationalities came to be. I could give you a very crude racist theory I have. hehe. Well either way would that still mean the same thing even if were supposedly evolved creatures as well since it does take one male and one female in order to reproduce? As for the nationalities people never stood in one place different place have different climates and people of course adapted to that climate. As for the languages developing you should read the story of the Tower of Bable. I am not sure what the scientific explaination would be for that...I am a bit curious to hear some theories.
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:51 am
MegaTherion777 The War Starter I really don't like thinking about the possibility of an afterlife existing. What if there isn't one? It shakes my very foundation and scares the s**t out of me. All is just a black void, then, and the short span of life we had means very little in the grand scheme of things, the world will mov... okay, I'm just not going to think about it. sweatdrop as an existentialist, i revel in the absurdity of an existence without essence. cruor - two things. first, what do you think of pascal's wager? even as an atheist i think there are logical and theological flaws with pascal's idea, yet what you said seems to support it. also, you're mixing up theory and postulate. in science a theory may or may not be proven beyond doubt, but it has been proven as best as can be done under our current circumstances. a postulate is unproven. example: the theory of gravity (yes, check a physics textbook, it's a theory) has been proven. evolution has not been proven beyond a doubt, but it is the most scientifically sensible conclusion given the evidence we have, so we could call it "half-proven." even if evolution is right, that doesnt mean christianity is bunk - if god's all powerful, i'm sure he could've designed creatures so that they would evolve. i really dont understand why so many christians seem to think evolution is completely incompatible with christianity. *shrugs* it has been proven, that's why it became the LAW of gravity.
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:35 am
Divinus Cruor MegaTherion777 The War Starter I really don't like thinking about the possibility of an afterlife existing. What if there isn't one? It shakes my very foundation and scares the s**t out of me. All is just a black void, then, and the short span of life we had means very little in the grand scheme of things, the world will mov... okay, I'm just not going to think about it. sweatdrop as an existentialist, i revel in the absurdity of an existence without essence. cruor - two things. first, what do you think of pascal's wager? even as an atheist i think there are logical and theological flaws with pascal's idea, yet what you said seems to support it. also, you're mixing up theory and postulate. in science a theory may or may not be proven beyond doubt, but it has been proven as best as can be done under our current circumstances. a postulate is unproven. example: the theory of gravity (yes, check a physics textbook, it's a theory) has been proven. evolution has not been proven beyond a doubt, but it is the most scientifically sensible conclusion given the evidence we have, so we could call it "half-proven." even if evolution is right, that doesnt mean christianity is bunk - if god's all powerful, i'm sure he could've designed creatures so that they would evolve. i really dont understand why so many christians seem to think evolution is completely incompatible with christianity. *shrugs* it has been proven, that's why it became the LAW of gravity. What's interesting is (at least according to the astronomy class I took in college) since the Theory of Relativity has been shown to be more accurate in the prediction of planetary motion than gravity, technically it has replaced gravity as the generally accepted scientific theory. gravity is a myth!! o.0
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:38 am
Volvy Divinus Cruor MegaTherion777 The War Starter I really don't like thinking about the possibility of an afterlife existing. What if there isn't one? It shakes my very foundation and scares the s**t out of me. All is just a black void, then, and the short span of life we had means very little in the grand scheme of things, the world will mov... okay, I'm just not going to think about it. sweatdrop as an existentialist, i revel in the absurdity of an existence without essence. cruor - two things. first, what do you think of pascal's wager? even as an atheist i think there are logical and theological flaws with pascal's idea, yet what you said seems to support it. also, you're mixing up theory and postulate. in science a theory may or may not be proven beyond doubt, but it has been proven as best as can be done under our current circumstances. a postulate is unproven. example: the theory of gravity (yes, check a physics textbook, it's a theory) has been proven. evolution has not been proven beyond a doubt, but it is the most scientifically sensible conclusion given the evidence we have, so we could call it "half-proven." even if evolution is right, that doesnt mean christianity is bunk - if god's all powerful, i'm sure he could've designed creatures so that they would evolve. i really dont understand why so many christians seem to think evolution is completely incompatible with christianity. *shrugs* it has been proven, that's why it became the LAW of gravity. What's interesting is (at least according to the astronomy class I took in college) since the Theory of Relativity has been shown to be more accurate in the prediction of planetary motion than gravity, technically it has replaced gravity as the generally accepted scientific theory. gravity is a myth!! o.0 Whoa thats interesting. I need to get back into science and stuff sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:08 pm
Divinus Cruor MegaTherion777 The War Starter I really don't like thinking about the possibility of an afterlife existing. What if there isn't one? It shakes my very foundation and scares the s**t out of me. All is just a black void, then, and the short span of life we had means very little in the grand scheme of things, the world will mov... okay, I'm just not going to think about it. sweatdrop as an existentialist, i revel in the absurdity of an existence without essence. cruor - two things. first, what do you think of pascal's wager? even as an atheist i think there are logical and theological flaws with pascal's idea, yet what you said seems to support it. also, you're mixing up theory and postulate. in science a theory may or may not be proven beyond doubt, but it has been proven as best as can be done under our current circumstances. a postulate is unproven. example: the theory of gravity (yes, check a physics textbook, it's a theory) has been proven. evolution has not been proven beyond a doubt, but it is the most scientifically sensible conclusion given the evidence we have, so we could call it "half-proven." even if evolution is right, that doesnt mean christianity is bunk - if god's all powerful, i'm sure he could've designed creatures so that they would evolve. i really dont understand why so many christians seem to think evolution is completely incompatible with christianity. *shrugs* it has been proven, that's why it became the LAW of gravity. my physics textbook published last year says it's the theory of gravity. maybe mexican scientists use different terminology? volvy - eeeeenteresting *rubs chin*
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Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:57 pm
MegaTherion777 Divinus Cruor it has been proven, that's why it became the LAW of gravity. my physics textbook published last year says it's the theory of gravity. maybe mexican scientists use different terminology? volvy - eeeeenteresting *rubs chin* I remember learning it as a law too. Maybe your textbook isn't different because of what Volvy said.
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:43 am
Gravechylde MegaTherion777 Divinus Cruor it has been proven, that's why it became the LAW of gravity. my physics textbook published last year says it's the theory of gravity. maybe mexican scientists use different terminology? volvy - eeeeenteresting *rubs chin* I remember learning it as a law too. Maybe your textbook isn't different because of what Volvy said. are you sure you're not thinking of the law of universal gravitation (which is different, but related, to the theory of gravity)?
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:22 am
MegaTherion777 Gravechylde MegaTherion777 Divinus Cruor it has been proven, that's why it became the LAW of gravity. my physics textbook published last year says it's the theory of gravity. maybe mexican scientists use different terminology? volvy - eeeeenteresting *rubs chin* I remember learning it as a law too. Maybe your textbook isn't different because of what Volvy said. are you sure you're not thinking of the law of universal gravitation (which is different, but related, to the theory of gravity)? And here I thought it was me who should engage in scientific disputes wink .
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