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As one of the Vice-Captains of this Order I feel I must interject here.





Hello, I simply have three comments about the concerns you have brought to our attention.

First, which threads in your opinion have been taken from TOPG? I can assure you that any similarities are simply coincidental. There are many threads that nearly every Pokemon guild has, so it may just be that simply because it looks similar is because that type of thread in most every guild are similar. Even still, if you let us know which threads you think have been taken, the crew of our Order will do our best to try to attempt to change whichever threads so they do not appear to be similar anymore within reason.

Second, as to our "scouting." I am sorry you feel that we are attempting to steal your members away from you. As Tetshinji has already made known, this is not our intention at all. Since our Order is still fairly new we are trying to grow our Order as much as we can. Do not feel that we are targeting your Guild specifically, we arent. Nor are we trying to steal your members. People do have the ability to be apart of more than one Guild. Even though I myself am a Vice-Captain for this Order, I still consider my affiliation with not only the Order, but also my original Guild, the Pokemon Diamond/Pearl Gaming Guild. This Order did not "steal" me away from my previous Guild, simply the more I got involved in the Order, the more I grew attached to it. We don't mean to steal anybody from anywhere. You are absolutely right, if we were inviting people just so the other Pokemon Guilds would have less members and us more, that would be absolutely wrong, but that is not our intention. The way that I look at it, and I cannot speak for everyone in this opinion because it is my own opinion and view, but I want to give people to chance to see our Order and to give them the chance to not only enjoy being apart of their original Guild, but, if they so choose, to choose to allow us to take part in some of their activity, knowledge, and skill also. That is the whole point of inviting more people to our Order. Not necessarily for more activity or more members, while that is a side effect of it, but to share our knowledge, make a few more friends, and to grow more skilled at playing Pokemon. That is how I look at it. I am sorry if you still feel we are scouting your members, and if you still do we will do what we can to accommodate to your concerns.

Finally, In no way were we previously aware of your thoughts or feelings as to anything pertaining to our Order. I must demand that before you come and start slandering our Order saying it is "dead" or anything of the sort you allow your concerns to be heard and allow us time to consider your concerns and either give an explanation or fix the problem. I will not stand for anyone to try to trash talk any of our members, or our Order itself unwarranted. If our actions prove that we are worthy of any slandering, then so be it. We have deserved it, but I honestly do not think that we have done anything so far that we are not in the process of trying to alleviate.

I try to make this Order the best it can be and uphold the strongest honour I can with it. I want the members of our Order to be proud of and proud to be apart of this Guild. In no way are myself or any other crew member trying to undermine what your Guild has accomplished, in both threads and members. I must again ask that before anything turns hostile, or if you have any qualms with us in the future, please PM myself of someone apart of the crew with your concerns. This isnt the type of thing that needs to be publicly announced to every member of either of our Guilds. It isnt yet I should say. If the crew of this Order stop at least even trying to give an explanation to things, then yes, it does need to be public then, but not yet. I would greatly appreciate it if you would consider this the next time any concern of yours arises. If ever the roles here are reversed, I can assure you we will do the same.

I must request that you read my wall of text all the way through, because I explain quite a bit about our Order.

If you choose to not answer our questions that I pose to try and solve the problem, then I can do nothing to do exactly that, solve the problem.

I can assure you no one in this Order "prowls" your Guild to try to obtain members. As I have said in my last post, we have invited people from a plethora of different Pokemon Guilds. Not just yours. If you think this is wrong, then what do you think would be the best way to try to grow our guild? Your Guild clearly has found what works, so if I may ask you to share some of your knowledge with a younger Guild. If you could reiterate what you were telling Tetshinji, and expand on that it would be greatly appreciated.

I was not intending to direct my defense of our Order to you specifically. It was to general public. I recognize you haven't directly slandered out Order and I thank you for that. I won't tolerate anybody, no matter who they are, to do that unwarranted. I am sorry it seemed liked I was trying to directly that to you, I truly wasnt. I would ask you to stop singling out Tetshinji or any of his actions though. He is the Captain of this Order and his actions are also the actions of our crew. If you blame him, you blame all of us.

I simply want to try to resolve this tension between our Guilds as soon as possible. That is simply my intention behind all of this.

Good evening, I am Zacheriah Neoson, one of the VC's from TOPG. I want to make something clear here: This is no simple quick fix deal. There were problems with your guild's captain when the Pokemon Universal League joined our own, including blatant disrespect to guild crew save for the former guild's captain. When word began rolling around that he had been taking idea's from our guild, we became suspicious. Now that we have seen various posts, including forum games created by our own, well, you can understand where I am going with this.

As far as scouting for members, I can understand to an extent. You could just as easily asked to be affiliated to our guild if you did not wish to become part of it and advertise through there. Inviting members from other guilds, however, is frowned upon and generally seen as stealing, not scouting. That was the other action that we take offense to.

Now, you want a way to fix it, here it is: You may keep the threads you have from us. Afterall, imitation is the greatest form of flattery. We do not wish to see near blatant copies of our ideas and threads here, though, we want your guild to be creative and work out its own way. Tet must not only apologize, which he already has, but also personally vouch for this measure, as he is the main party being looked at for this offense. As for scouting, we will retaliate upon any more reports of our guildmates being invited. We will accept a request of affiliation with our guild with a link in our affiliates thread and an advertisement within it for your guild. Any guildmate who joins in this fashion will not be stopped, in fact, encouraged to help this guild.

That is all. You want to offer your counter-measures, go for it, but no more dancing around the topic. As Banter said, we are NOT happy about this, and just like you, want a quick resolution of the problem at hand.