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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 2:46 pm
blah909 ok, yeah, there be a big GMC already, they would get pissed if we made another. who wants to play ambassador of GGN? i'm up for it... Er...how about no. For some reason I just don't trust you in that area. [cough]disrespectful[/cough].
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:06 pm
Then there's the other problem with that: Ambasador to who, exactly?
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 8:42 pm
As long as the ambassador position does not require an extensive amount of my time, I will volunteer for this.
...and ack...spotlight. Truth to tell, about the time I stopped posting on ASDF and in my own thread, I got a severe burnout which took with it everything related to gaia, including CRC. I am right now in recovery from the burnout, though I'm taking things slowly. I will be happy to provide the CRC system for the GG once I feel I can complete it with the enthusiasm which spawned it's creation. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:03 am
I think they just mean an 'in general' diplomat who handles negotiations with outside guilds. Someone who will keep the interests of the GG in mind, but also be able to create a friendly relationship with another guild.
Now...after all this has been said, I had an idea which also merits some discussion I think, but it's really radical, and therefore I am hesitant to really suggest it as an actual direction for Gaian Government to go.
The suggestion is this: We scrap the existing guilds, and create brand new ones purpose-specific to the Gaian Government. The opportunity is there to start fresh, building on our individual experiences but working together to design a more integrated game government. We also start fresh on the rosters: everyone's a GG member, and can apply for one branch, and/or volunteer to lead a branch. ...but again, I know this is a very radical idea, so please take it easy on me sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:02 pm
I like the idea of scraping the old guilds and starting new ones... however I am also coming from the GA, which as many people may be aware hasn't been all that active recently and may actually benifit from a "re-model"... whereas the other more active guilds may lose out.
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:08 pm
Guilds that feel they need the opportunity to rebuild its foundation can take advantage of starting over. GA/ASDF I can see doing this. As Mouse mentioned, other guilds who feel they dont need to should just be checked to see if they fit the GG mold and if so then passed on through.
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:15 pm
Tutsumi Hybrin blah909 ok, yeah, there be a big GMC already, they would get pissed if we made another. who wants to play ambassador of GGN? i'm up for it... Er...how about no. For some reason I just don't trust you in that area. [cough]disrespectful[/cough]. no, just no bullshit.
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:41 pm
blah909 Tutsumi Hybrin blah909 ok, yeah, there be a big GMC already, they would get pissed if we made another. who wants to play ambassador of GGN? i'm up for it... Er...how about no. For some reason I just don't trust you in that area. [cough]disrespectful[/cough]. no, just no bullshit. Dude...no offence...but you ARE bullshit...in certain areas...
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:56 pm
Tutsumi Hybrin blah909 Tutsumi Hybrin blah909 ok, yeah, there be a big GMC already, they would get pissed if we made another. who wants to play ambassador of GGN? i'm up for it... Er...how about no. For some reason I just don't trust you in that area. [cough]disrespectful[/cough]. no, just no bullshit. Dude...no offence...but you ARE bullshit...in certain areas... shure buddy...
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:31 pm
The GA is restarting now anyway, and there is no GN. However I don't see the point in recreating the ASDF when it's going to become a sub-guild anyway.
I was kind of hoping we would keep the RP so far, for the most part.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:20 pm
Tanasha The GA is restarting now anyway, and there is no GN. However I don't see the point in recreating the ASDF when it's going to become a sub-guild anyway. I was kind of hoping we would keep the RP so far, for the most part. Im gonna assume you probably havent visited Eileen's Hangout recently, but Im proposing that the ASDF be within the GA. (Which is why I kinda lumped GA/ASDF together.) There's also no point in having a subguild for what... four people? Both really need restructuring and members so why not combine them? Also blah and Tutsumi, as well as anyone else who wants to get into a fight... take it elsewhere. stare
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:05 pm
While the ASDF may only have >10 PCs, it has a lot of NPCs. This is because an advanced government is unideal for a small number of people, and bulk is needed to insure that people don't get stuck playing the Janitor.
For large numbers of people with several tasks, the ideal system is to have some people preform some tasks, while others preform otehr tasks. Having everybody do everything reduces efficiency and makes everything a management and efficiency nightmare.
A millitary base, for example, has limited space for supplies and equipment. Since parts aren't interchangable between planes, ships, tanks, and infantry, each type requires it's own supplies. Maintinance and repair also requires completely different skill sets for each, meaning more techs on staff. Assuming the same size, a specialized base has a cost factor orders of magnitude lower than a mixed base. Specialized bases also have improved chances of incidental redundancy - if a pilot is sick, there's a greater chance of somebody on-base being able to cover for them.
Besides, specialized millitary commanders yield better tactics, meaning that a joint-action would have multiple people analyzing the situation to arrive at a more optimal use of all available forces. This also makes budgeting fairer, as the people deciding how much everybody gets haven't had a carear that would bias them in favor or against a subgroup.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:53 pm
WEll I agree with the fact that some guild need resructuration...but I dont agree that the ASDF need it...think about it... Tanasha is right there is a lot of NPC in there...and we are a extremely specialized branch who need a base of their own... also as far as I know ground forces and air forces tends to brawl each other for an unkow reason stare
Also I hope that by restructuration you dont mean that the current members will lost their progress... stare
It took a me a while to made it to Sgt you know... and Im sure Lindy and Thrie took a while to reach their current rank...
But anyway... does anybody when we will be able to xnfer to treads to the GGN??
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:17 am
Hello, I just joined in, im the commander of the current GMC, as for the Gain Navy, I have a purely NPC space fleet, I use in tandem with the GMC.
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:54 am
V.H. Griffin Chan WEll I agree with the fact that some guild need resructuration...but I dont agree that the ASDF need it...think about it... Tanasha is right there is a lot of NPC in there...and we are a extremely specialized branch who need a base of their own... also as far as I know ground forces and air forces tends to brawl each other for an unkow reason stare Also I hope that by restructuration you dont mean that the current members will lost their progress... stare Okay, seems im not getting the point across... ASDF can STILL be a specialized branch of whatever... but it DOES need more interaction with other groups. Sorry, but I dont see it justified to have a whole base especially when RPing NPCs outnumber the players by such a large margin. And what's wrong if the air and ground forces have conflict if it generates RP. Also, no... restructing doesnt mean you just lose your rank. Not sure how this was ever assumed... point is, dont make assumptions. Let's face the reality. We have two organizations near death, if people want to rationalize keeping the way things are from a technical/logical perspective instead of a RP perspective then so be it. Anyway, since Im no longer part of ASDF im just gonna drop it.
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