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 Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:12 pm
... Why Semi-Complete? Because I don't think anyone but Meru and Nymphie know ALL of what was happening. Anyhow, here goes.
0. - Pre-end of Game X.
~ People generally treat the VCs like crap whenever they do something people dislike. This focuses mostly on Meru and Nymphie because they are the two who are around the most and take on the responsibilities of VC in the most public manner. Worst of all, nobody stepped to the plate for them and put down the nay-sayers. We are all guilty of that.
1. - End of Game X
~ Meru and Monkey make a topic about how Mori messed up or something along those lines, I am still not sure what exactly they wanted from the topic but it spurred alot of bad feeling towards them. Unfortunately their positions as VC apparently means they're not allowed to react to things in the game itself like any other member can in the eyes of some members here.
2. - Drama in the Topic
~ Drama ensues in the topic Monkey and Meru created, IHD comes in numerous times asking people not to fight.
3. - Topic is Locked
~ The topic is locked for drama.
3. - Topic is Unlocked
~ The topic is unlocked because the drama has stopped.
4. - The Drama Reboots
~ The drama in the topic is brought back up by some late-comers who didn't bother to read the whole topic and see the drama it caused.
5. - Topic is Relocked
~ Nymphie relocks the topic to put a stop to the drama.
6. - DeGei creates a thread protesting the VCs and some other stuff
~ Topic located here, see for yourself.
7. - PMs are sent to Nymphie and Meru about various things, MEAN PMs.
8. - Flaming and Drama
~ DeGei's topic devolves into a mass chaos of flaming and drama.
9. - VC Sadness
~ Meru and Nymphie get all depressed/upset over the hateful things said to them by various people.
10. - The Step-Down
~ Meru and Nymphie announce that they are stepping down from their positions as Vice Captains for the entirety of Game XI.
11. - Post Traumatic Stress
~ Meru and Nymphie get all giddy at first, making really silly topics, then start exhibiting much worse symptoms. Some friends worry.
12. - My Topic
~ I made a topic yelling at each and every one I knew the name of who was involved in this current explosion. I did not try to be nice, being nice would have defeated the purpose. Topic.
13. - Zaeyde to the Rescue
~ [Q] contacts Zaeyde and tells her what is going on in the guild. Zae comes back and takes charge.
Don't flame [Q] for what he did. I don't know if he knew about Zae's IRL issues but even if he did, someone had to do something. 
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:14 pm
Dukes. I read the whole entire thread and stated my opinions. That's all I'm going to say about that.
Thank you for letting the latecomers know about what's been going on.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:17 pm
Thanks for letting all of us who weren't here know why everyone is yelling at us and accusing us of not defending our friends. ^^
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:27 pm
system malfunction  Zaeyde Ok, so here it is. First rule. 1. Everything that took place after my departure is to be forgotten and nullified. I hastily chose people, and that was it. I needed a quick out due to what was going on, so I picked people with little thought, hoping they would appoint power as they saw fit and whatnot. My fault, I take the heat for whatever the hell happened. I don't even have the patience to go back and read everything.
Besides, I'm sure everyone has had enough with the drama. It doesn't need to be discussed any further.
What I said in Hirun's thread. Revisiting what happened isn't going to do any good. The damage is done, we just need to put up with the consequences and move on
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:39 pm
system malfunction system malfunction Zaeyde Ok, so here it is. First rule. 1. Everything that took place after my departure is to be forgotten and nullified. I hastily chose people, and that was it. I needed a quick out due to what was going on, so I picked people with little thought, hoping they would appoint power as they saw fit and whatnot. My fault, I take the heat for whatever the hell happened. I don't even have the patience to go back and read everything.
Besides, I'm sure everyone has had enough with the drama. It doesn't need to be discussed any further.
What I said in Hirun's thread. Revisiting what happened isn't going to do any good. The damage is done, we just need to put up with the consequences and move on People need to ACCEPT the consequences first. And if Zae honestly thinks that this bunch of people we have here will just forget it ever happened then she's alot less intelligent than I think she is. I also note that there is MORE to that rule than the first sentence. Seems to me that Zae means we shouldn't be hating on the VCs for what happened.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:39 pm
Dukes I know you're making these topics to let people know what happened but like a few others have already said we've pretty much discussed as much as we can on this situation. I hope this is the last topic you're going to make about this.
We all just need a break to heal from this drama.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:50 pm
Dukes system malfunction system malfunction Zaeyde Ok, so here it is. First rule. 1. Everything that took place after my departure is to be forgotten and nullified. I hastily chose people, and that was it. I needed a quick out due to what was going on, so I picked people with little thought, hoping they would appoint power as they saw fit and whatnot. My fault, I take the heat for whatever the hell happened. I don't even have the patience to go back and read everything.
Besides, I'm sure everyone has had enough with the drama. It doesn't need to be discussed any further.
What I said in Hirun's thread. Revisiting what happened isn't going to do any good. The damage is done, we just need to put up with the consequences and move on People need to ACCEPT the consequences first. And if Zae honestly thinks that this bunch of people we have here will just forget it ever happened then she's alot less intelligent than I think she is. I also note that there is MORE to that rule than the first sentence. Seems to me that Zae means we shouldn't be hating on the VCs for what happened. Accept the consequences? Two of our VCs had panic attacks and could have been seriously hurt. I think that's more than enough
Just drop it please. This doesn't need to be discussed any further
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:14 pm
I was totally gone all of yesterday and didn't get on much today, so thank you for informing us who were not involved/don't know what the hell is going on. I do hope good and peace is restored, and I hope all the VC's come out okay. I didn't realize it had gotten this bad around here...
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:19 pm
system malfunction Dukes system malfunction system malfunction Zaeyde Ok, so here it is. First rule. 1. Everything that took place after my departure is to be forgotten and nullified. I hastily chose people, and that was it. I needed a quick out due to what was going on, so I picked people with little thought, hoping they would appoint power as they saw fit and whatnot. My fault, I take the heat for whatever the hell happened. I don't even have the patience to go back and read everything.
Besides, I'm sure everyone has had enough with the drama. It doesn't need to be discussed any further.
What I said in Hirun's thread. Revisiting what happened isn't going to do any good. The damage is done, we just need to put up with the consequences and move on People need to ACCEPT the consequences first. And if Zae honestly thinks that this bunch of people we have here will just forget it ever happened then she's alot less intelligent than I think she is. I also note that there is MORE to that rule than the first sentence. Seems to me that Zae means we shouldn't be hating on the VCs for what happened. Accept the consequences? Two of our VCs had panic attacks and could have been seriously hurt. I think that's more than enough
Just drop it please. This doesn't need to be discussed any further You don't get it. There are people who are RESPONSIBLE for those panic attacks, they need to see what they have done and accept their responsibility for it.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:32 pm
PLEASE dont b***h at Dukes. Its a good thing he brought all of this up. If he didnt no one would have known what had happened. And if know one knew, how could they prevent it from happening again? Dukes is saying what needs to be said. What happened needs to be looked at and fixed. And if you think Dukes is doing this harshly then...I really dont care. Because he needs to get it through to people how horrible the situation is and how much we need to fix it. Letting this whole thing drop and be forgotten wont help. If we forget how will we learn from our mistakes?
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:34 pm
Dukes system malfunction Dukes system malfunction system malfunction Zaeyde Ok, so here it is. First rule. 1. Everything that took place after my departure is to be forgotten and nullified. I hastily chose people, and that was it. I needed a quick out due to what was going on, so I picked people with little thought, hoping they would appoint power as they saw fit and whatnot. My fault, I take the heat for whatever the hell happened. I don't even have the patience to go back and read everything.
Besides, I'm sure everyone has had enough with the drama. It doesn't need to be discussed any further.
What I said in Hirun's thread. Revisiting what happened isn't going to do any good. The damage is done, we just need to put up with the consequences and move on People need to ACCEPT the consequences first. And if Zae honestly thinks that this bunch of people we have here will just forget it ever happened then she's alot less intelligent than I think she is. I also note that there is MORE to that rule than the first sentence. Seems to me that Zae means we shouldn't be hating on the VCs for what happened. Accept the consequences? Two of our VCs had panic attacks and could have been seriously hurt. I think that's more than enough
Just drop it please. This doesn't need to be discussed any further You don't get it. There are people who are RESPONSIBLE for those panic attacks, they need to see what they have done and accept their responsibility for it. And making threads like this won't change anything. If you want them punished, you should tell Zae exactly who caused this rather than bringing up the drama once again
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:45 pm
`Nymphie PLEASE dont b***h at Dukes. Its a good thing he brought all of this up. If he didnt no one would have known what had happened. And if know one knew, how could they prevent it from happening again? Dukes is saying what needs to be said. What happened needs to be looked at and fixed. And if you think Dukes is doing this harshly then...I really dont care. Because he needs to get it through to people how horrible the situation is and how much we need to fix it. Letting this whole thing drop and be forgotten wont help. If we forget how will we learn from our mistakes? We shouldn't forget, that's the only way to make sure mistakes don't happen again. I just think there are enough topics about what happened for people to learn from and there don't need to be any new ones...or dragged into topics about new rules. ><
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:58 pm
system malfunction Dukes system malfunction Dukes system malfunction What I said in Hirun's thread. Revisiting what happened isn't going to do any good. The damage is done, we just need to put up with the consequences and move on People need to ACCEPT the consequences first. And if Zae honestly thinks that this bunch of people we have here will just forget it ever happened then she's alot less intelligent than I think she is. I also note that there is MORE to that rule than the first sentence. Seems to me that Zae means we shouldn't be hating on the VCs for what happened. Accept the consequences? Two of our VCs had panic attacks and could have been seriously hurt. I think that's more than enough
Just drop it please. This doesn't need to be discussed any further You don't get it. There are people who are RESPONSIBLE for those panic attacks, they need to see what they have done and accept their responsibility for it. And making threads like this won't change anything. If you want them punished, you should tell Zae exactly who caused this rather than bringing up the drama once again Alain, I used to think you were pretty intelligent... was I wrong?
Do you think I want the people banished? Cause I don't. I want them to see what they did, see that it was wrong, feel remorse, and learn from it. If they hate me for it I don't ******** care, so long as they don't do to others what they did too Nymphie and Meru. Read the following post, through the link, maybe you'll get a better idea than you have so far of why I am pissed off.
]http://www.gaiaonline.com/guilds/viewtopic.php?page=7&t=6823561#90900543
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:02 pm
@Dukes: Just because I don't agree with you completely doesn't make me any less intelligent.
I'm sure if it were brought to Zae's attention, she would help them to se ethe error of their ways, probably along with giving them a temp ban.
And I've been here during the entire affair. I understand why you're pissed, and I agree with you in that. But you don't have the right to drag it out in this manner, especially after Zae specifically stated not to
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:09 pm
system malfunction @Dukes: Just because I don't agree with you completely doesn't make me any less intelligent.
I'm sure if it were brought to Zae's attention, she would help them to se ethe error of their ways, probably along with giving them a temp ban.
And I've been here during the entire affair. I understand why you're pissed, and I agree with you in that. But you don't have the right to drag it out in this manner, especially after Zae specifically stated not to Actually that's not what she said, not how I interpreted it anyhow. Looks to me like she was saying not to blame anything the VCs did on them, that it was her fault. You see, that's what happens when you interpret the WHOLE rule instead of just the first part that suits your needs.
I never said that you were less intelligent for disagreeing with me, I said it because you're all "Let's go tell Zae to banish them for this" while that would only cause the removal of some players and net no real solution. We jave to LEARN from s**t like this, not have it happen, pretend it didn't happen, and go on to do it again. History is doomed to repeat itself if we don't take note of the past and work off of it.
You were NOT here for the entire affair. I don't care if you backread the forums every day or anything like that. There were things said in private or via IM that were much worse than alot of the s**t said here. And you have NO idea what last night was like. So don't act like you're omniscient.
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