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DeGei

PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:54 pm


1. Zae did NOT create the sniper game, she only brought it to Gaia, and wishes it to stay active and realitively problem free.
2. Zae has changed the game to keep it fresh and interesting, yet since she left change has been generally opposed.
3. VCs have on the whole been abusing their power, acting without full thinking and stepping outside their bonds. If they were purple mods on Gaia, they would be demodded. IHD is the acception to this, and Ana hasnt been around. >_>
Being a VC doesnt mean your incharge, it means you are suppost to keep the game running, not RULING.
4. If you signup for a game plan to play the game, 1/4th of the players last game were inactive, and most of the other 3/4th barely thought for themselves. What has become of the game were each round a thread appears to state who is to be voted off? I thought this was based on each person voting for themselves not one person picking a random person to vote and one person headhunting and the votes being split. Thats not a game, thats reading a book, you can see where its going and the input is minimal.

Finally, GMs and Writers are two different things.
GM means GAME MASTER. If you are the master of the game, it is yours to run. You arent logging on daily to count some votes and write a short story. Make the game interesting without breaking the rules. Change the rules up a bit. Im not saying allow mules or anything, but figure out something, MASTER THE GAME.

Thank you, that is all.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:56 pm


Amen. And Zae was trying to add new twists with jailvote, and now that she's poofed, people are slapping her in the face after her appearance where everyone was all "OMG BEST IDEA EVER".

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:05 pm


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Please PLEASE tell me how we are abusing our powers?

Zae made us VC because she couldnt do the game herself. So we are in charge.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:08 pm


DeGei

3. VCs have on the whole been abusing their power, acting without full thinking and stepping outside their bonds. If they were purple mods on Gaia, they would be demodded. IHD is the acception to this, and Ana hasnt been around. >_>
Being a VC doesnt mean your incharge, it means you are suppost to keep the game running, not RULING.
How is IHD the exception? IHD has AGREED with EVERY SINGLE THING WE HAVE DONE. WE CONSULT HER BEFORE EVERYTHING. Have YOU seen the crew forum? Have YOU read our aim chats? Have YOU read all the pms? NO. So dont talk about what you dont know, kthnx. IHD has as much to do with everything we do as the rest of us.

ALSO. Who says what being V.C means? There are no set rules? Basically we are in charge of the ENTIRE guild. NOT just the game. And we are trying to make it a better place. Or at least keep it as it is and make sure it doesnt get worse.

THIRDLY WHAT have we done that is so wrong? HOW have we abused our power?

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DeGei

PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:08 pm


Merumiharu
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Please PLEASE tell me how we are abusing our powers?

Zae made us VC because she couldnt do the game herself. So we are in charge.

Thats the thing, There need to be vice captains so things can be kept in order, GM can be promoted, etc.
YOU ARE NOT THE DAMN RULING CLASS, YOU ARE THE WORKING CLASS HERE TO MAKE THE OTHER PLAYER'S GAME EXPERIENCE BETTER, YOU ARENT GETTING THAT!
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:10 pm


I've only been here for one game, but I like the jailvote. I think it gives the less-interested people a reason to stay active once they've been jailed.
And I'm fairly certain this game was originally called 'Mafia' or something of the like, and Mafia is a game quite like this that you play in real life. But it takes a lot shorter.
I think that the game should change each time, with each GM adding new twists and turns.
I think the next GM could take a look at the basic rules, and add other new things to keep the game from getting stale.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:12 pm


DeGei
Merumiharu
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Please PLEASE tell me how we are abusing our powers?

Zae made us VC because she couldnt do the game herself. So we are in charge.

Thats the thing, There need to be vice captains so things can be kept in order, GM can be promoted, etc.
YOU ARE NOT THE DAMN RULING CLASS, YOU ARE THE WORKING CLASS HERE TO MAKE THE OTHER PLAYER'S GAME EXPERIENCE BETTER, YOU ARENT GETTING THAT!
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How are we abusing our powers?

WE ARE HERE TO TAKE CARE OF WHATEVER THINGS THE GUILD NEEDS.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:12 pm


`Nymphie
DeGei

3. VCs have on the whole been abusing their power, acting without full thinking and stepping outside their bonds. If they were purple mods on Gaia, they would be demodded. IHD is the acception to this, and Ana hasnt been around. >_>
Being a VC doesnt mean your incharge, it means you are suppost to keep the game running, not RULING.
How is IHD the exception? IHD has AGREED with EVERY SINGLE THING WE HAVE DONE. WE CONSULT HER BEFORE EVERYTHING. Have YOU seen the crew forum? Have YOU read our aim chats? Have YOU read all the pms? NO. So dont talk about what you dont know, kthnx. IHD has as much to do with everything we do as the rest of us.

ALSO. Who says what being V.C means? There are no set rules? Basically we are in charge of the ENTIRE guild. NOT just the game. And we are trying to make it a better place. Or at least keep it as it is and make sure it doesnt get worse.

THIRDLY WHAT have we done that is so wrong? HOW have we abused our power?

*coughcoughSPAMSUBFORUMcoughcoughlockingthreadsbecausepeopleareargueingwithyoucoughcough*
Why is any of that stuff secret secret anyway? If its important, it shouldnt be left up to a few people, it should be a group decision. Just because IHD agrees doesnt mean she approves, she has a lot to do on Gaia, comboed with school, sometimes it easier to say, "fine, ok" than discuss.

DeGei


DeGei

PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:15 pm


Merumiharu
DeGei
Merumiharu
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Please PLEASE tell me how we are abusing our powers?

Zae made us VC because she couldnt do the game herself. So we are in charge.

Thats the thing, There need to be vice captains so things can be kept in order, GM can be promoted, etc.
YOU ARE NOT THE DAMN RULING CLASS, YOU ARE THE WORKING CLASS HERE TO MAKE THE OTHER PLAYER'S GAME EXPERIENCE BETTER, YOU ARENT GETTING THAT!
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How are we abusing our powers?

WE ARE HERE TO TAKE CARE OF WHATEVER THINGS THE GUILD NEEDS.

How is it decided what the guild needs?
"Oh we need thing A" *tells other VCs Thing A should be added* *other VCs nod nod and thing A is added*
Several other people "Wha? why do we need Thing A? its kinda blah."
*VC locks thread and decides to remove Thing A*
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:16 pm


DeGei
`Nymphie
DeGei

3. VCs have on the whole been abusing their power, acting without full thinking and stepping outside their bonds. If they were purple mods on Gaia, they would be demodded. IHD is the acception to this, and Ana hasnt been around. >_>
Being a VC doesnt mean your incharge, it means you are suppost to keep the game running, not RULING.
How is IHD the exception? IHD has AGREED with EVERY SINGLE THING WE HAVE DONE. WE CONSULT HER BEFORE EVERYTHING. Have YOU seen the crew forum? Have YOU read our aim chats? Have YOU read all the pms? NO. So dont talk about what you dont know, kthnx. IHD has as much to do with everything we do as the rest of us.

ALSO. Who says what being V.C means? There are no set rules? Basically we are in charge of the ENTIRE guild. NOT just the game. And we are trying to make it a better place. Or at least keep it as it is and make sure it doesnt get worse.

THIRDLY WHAT have we done that is so wrong? HOW have we abused our power?

*coughcoughSPAMSUBFORUMcoughcoughlockingthreadsbecausepeopleareargueingwithyoucoughcough*
Why is any of that stuff secret secret anyway? If its important, it shouldnt be left up to a few people, it should be a group decision. Just because IHD agrees doesnt mean she approves, she has a lot to do on Gaia, comboed with school, sometimes it easier to say, "fine, ok" than discuss.
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Spam forum? How is that abuse? WE LOCK THREADS USUALLY AT OTHERS CHOICE AND TO CUT DOWN DRAMA.

If IHD had a problem im SURE she would speak up.

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Sendryl

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:20 pm


DeGei:
You enjoy the game, right? If you have a problem, fighting with the powers-that-be will not help the problem in getting solved. I sugest you calm down and write out exactly what you think the problem is, then PM it to IHD or whichever VC you want.
I do NOT think you should make a thread and start arguing about something that one topic was already locked for.
domokun heart domokun
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:21 pm


DeGei
`Nymphie
DeGei

3. VCs have on the whole been abusing their power, acting without full thinking and stepping outside their bonds. If they were purple mods on Gaia, they would be demodded. IHD is the acception to this, and Ana hasnt been around. >_>
Being a VC doesnt mean your incharge, it means you are suppost to keep the game running, not RULING.
How is IHD the exception? IHD has AGREED with EVERY SINGLE THING WE HAVE DONE. WE CONSULT HER BEFORE EVERYTHING. Have YOU seen the crew forum? Have YOU read our aim chats? Have YOU read all the pms? NO. So dont talk about what you dont know, kthnx. IHD has as much to do with everything we do as the rest of us.

ALSO. Who says what being V.C means? There are no set rules? Basically we are in charge of the ENTIRE guild. NOT just the game. And we are trying to make it a better place. Or at least keep it as it is and make sure it doesnt get worse.

THIRDLY WHAT have we done that is so wrong? HOW have we abused our power?

*coughcoughSPAMSUBFORUMcoughcoughlockingthreadsbecausepeopleareargueingwithyoucoughcough*
Why is any of that stuff secret secret anyway? If its important, it shouldnt be left up to a few people, it should be a group decision. Just because IHD agrees doesnt mean she approves, she has a lot to do on Gaia, comboed with school, sometimes it easier to say, "fine, ok" than discuss.

HOW IS THE SPAM FORUM ABUSE? We thought it was a good idea! ALOT of people agreed. Turns out, alot also didnt agree so we stopped it. WE TRIED TO BETTER THE GUILD. WE DIDNT TRY TO HURT IT >.< The spam forum was for EVERYONE, NOT US.

I locked that thread because it was filled with drama a few days ago. Luckily the drama died down. But Ryan brought it back up, and then hirun posted, and their posts could have started more drama. I felt it better to lock the thread before drama began again, because drama = bad.

Also, WE WOULD NEVER MAKE DECISIONS IF THEY WERE UP TO EVERYONE. It takes ages to get 4 people to agree on one thing. We look at the threads and the posts and read them and then quote them or link to them in the crew and discuss what the final decision in there will be. When the rest of the guild discusses things they come up with lots of solutions, but never choose JUST ONE. Thats OUR JOB. If we did it in a thread with the whole guild it would take sooo much longer, its not even funny. ALSO, there are things in there about issues with certain users. The entire guild need not know when one user messes up and steps out of line. IT IS THEIR PRIVATE BUSINESS.

IHD AGREES WITH WHAT WE TALK ABOUT. DID YOU KNOw she was the one who wanted a VC chat the most? Did you know she was the one who started the v.c chat so we could figure out what to do? WHY WOULD SHE PUT IN THAT EFFORT IF SHE DIDNT CARE? WE DISCUSS. We dont say fine, ok. IHD NEVER just says fine ok. She tells us her exact thoughts on matters.


Nymphiedora


Egotistical Moose

PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:21 pm


Goddamnit DeGei, why the hell are you doing this?! It's ******** HARD to run a forum, even a small one, and the VCs are doing the BEST THEY CAN! They've cut down on the drama and suffered through everyone BITCHING about what they've done! They're working their asses off! Don't you get that? Can't you understand how HARD it is for someone to take charge of something when the creator isn't around to help them?
They've been doing the best they can, and it is NOT your place to criticize them. Damnit, what have YOU done that is so much better than what they have done? Who are you to criticize them?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:22 pm


Sendryl
DeGei:
You enjoy the game, right? If you have a problem, fighting with the powers-that-be will not help the problem in getting solved. I sugest you calm down and write out exactly what you think the problem is, then PM it to IHD or whichever VC you want.
I do NOT think you should make a thread and start arguing about something that one topic was already locked for.
domokun heart domokun

Thats just it, Im not enjoying the game, its boring. Not the writer's fault, not the VC's fault, its just going downhill.
Im thinking about leaving like everyone else is starting too, but Im going to try and save it first, its what Zae would want.

DeGei


Nymphiedora

PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:23 pm


Egotistical Moose
Goddamnit DeGei, why the hell are you doing this?! It's ******** HARD to run a forum, even a small one, and the VCs are doing the BEST THEY CAN! They've cut down on the drama and suffered through everyone BITCHING about what they've done! They're working their asses off! Don't you get that? Can't you understand how HARD it is for someone to take charge of something when the creator isn't around to help them?
They've been doing the best they can, and it is NOT your place to criticize them. Damnit, what have YOU done that is so much better than what they have done? Who are you to criticize them?
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