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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:47 am
I'd like to ask for prayers for someone. Her name is Frida and most likely she is demon possesed and according to her they also talk to her if I remember correctly. Prayers on this would be very much appreciated. Thank you.
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:14 am
I will pray for her. But remember, you can only truly get rid of the demons if that person wants them gone. If they want to live with them, there truly is nothing you can do :
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thrashmetaljunkie Captain
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:24 am
thrashmetaljunkie I will pray for her. But remember, you can only truly get rid of the demons if that person wants them gone. If they want to live with them, there truly is nothing you can do : Do you have any scriptures that prove that? I'm just saying because I don't tend to believe everything everyone says on things like this unless scripture confirms it >.< and thank you very much for praying!
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:07 am
starry night-163 thrashmetaljunkie I will pray for her. But remember, you can only truly get rid of the demons if that person wants them gone. If they want to live with them, there truly is nothing you can do : Do you have any scriptures that prove that? I'm just saying because I don't tend to believe everything everyone says on things like this unless scripture confirms it >.< and thank you very much for praying! http://www.greatbiblestudy.com/casting_out_demons.php Remember that free will shouldn't be messed with. If they chose to live with those demons, it is their choice, sadly enough. However, most people dont like the way they feel with them so they want them gone. I know this from experience...
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thrashmetaljunkie Captain
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:35 am
I will definitely be praying with your friend. Demon possession is definitely something that is uncool.
However, people that are demon possessed will do more than have voices talking to them, they can sometimes have a strange feeling about them. Some will do things that aren't humanly possible. There are some people that aren't demon possessed and yet have the gift to know when someone is and can see things on a spiritual plain when others can't so it's possible she hasn't been possessed, but have something that's trying to get to her and this is where God is truly important.
Demons are complicated because there are so much to each one. They each have their personality just as a human does and they each have their own rules and certain scriptures that may work on one demon may not work on another.
You could pray for God to heal her and for God to bind the demon somewhere it belongs.
I must warn you, though, to never try to cast it out yourself unless you absolutely know what you're doing. Some scriptures are more powerful on demons than others, but the same scriptures may not work on each one and once you cast a demon out, you need to send it somewhere where it can't escape and go to anyone else or into another area. Letting a demon out if you don't know what you're doing can lead to serious consequences if you don't know what you're doing and don't have the gift to heal others in that manner.
I believe some people may possibly have a demon inside them for a reason. Perhaps it is God's will for them to be tormented for something they did or for a certain reason. Some people have also played with the spiritual realm through a Ouija board or another spiritual ritual. Some people that have given blood in a Satanic ritual can have a demon following them everywhere or sitting on their shoulder that most people aren't able to see. So they aren't exactly demon possessed because the demon is following them on the outside and not the inside. However, all things are possible to Christ so if they come to God about their problem and everything and truly want to be a servant of God and not be tormented anymore if that's what it is then God is the one that can change that.
However, even though I do not know their situation exactly, I will still pray for your friend smile best of luck and please, don't take any spiritual intervention even if you want to help your friend because it is dangerous. The power of prayer is the best bet since the spiritual realm is far more complex and beyond most of our understanding.
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:12 pm
Or she could just have a disorder. There are many disorders that can seem like someone is possessed and they aren't such as schizophrenia and DID. Someone told my mom I was possessed just because I have ADHD which isn't true. Please don't jump to conclusions about her.
There is a scripture that says that if the person has had a demon driven out of them and they do not become saved the demon will come back with other's. “When an evil spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that man is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.” (Matthew 12:43-45 NIV84)
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thrashmetaljunkie Captain
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:30 pm
Aquatic_blue I will definitely be praying with your friend. Demon possession is definitely something that is uncool. However, people that are demon possessed will do more than have voices talking to them, they can sometimes have a strange feeling about them. Some will do things that aren't humanly possible. There are some people that aren't demon possessed and yet have the gift to know when someone is and can see things on a spiritual plain when others can't so it's possible she hasn't been possessed, but have something that's trying to get to her and this is where God is truly important. Demons are complicated because there are so much to each one. They each have their personality just as a human does and they each have their own rules and certain scriptures that may work on one demon may not work on another. You could pray for God to heal her and for God to bind the demon somewhere it belongs. I must warn you, though, to never try to cast it out yourself unless you absolutely know what you're doing. Some scriptures are more powerful on demons than others, but the same scriptures may not work on each one and once you cast a demon out, you need to send it somewhere where it can't escape and go to anyone else or into another area. Letting a demon out if you don't know what you're doing can lead to serious consequences if you don't know what you're doing and don't have the gift to heal others in that manner. I believe some people may possibly have a demon inside them for a reason. Perhaps it is God's will for them to be tormented for something they did or for a certain reason. Some people have also played with the spiritual realm through a Ouija board or another spiritual ritual. Some people that have given blood in a Satanic ritual can have a demon following them everywhere or sitting on their shoulder that most people aren't able to see. So they aren't exactly demon possessed because the demon is following them on the outside and not the inside. However, all things are possible to Christ so if they come to God about their problem and everything and truly want to be a servant of God and not be tormented anymore if that's what it is then God is the one that can change that. However, even though I do not know their situation exactly, I will still pray for your friend smile best of luck and please, don't take any spiritual intervention even if you want to help your friend because it is dangerous. The power of prayer is the best bet since the spiritual realm is far more complex and beyond most of our understanding. I second this, the spiritual realm isnt just demons and angels, it is complex. When you dont know entirely what it is you are doing, prayer is your most powerful weapon. I will recommend a book to you. It is called This Present Darkness. Its a great book. its fictional, but does a great job of portraying the spiritual realm. The Author is Frank Perretti. I'd suggest reading it to get a better view on things ^_^
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:07 pm
I'll pray for Frida. I think YahuShalum mentioned her to me; she's muslim, right? I'll pray for her salvation. smile
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:49 pm
Aquatic_blue I will definitely be praying with your friend. Demon possession is definitely something that is uncool. However, people that are demon possessed will do more than have voices talking to them, they can sometimes have a strange feeling about them. Some will do things that aren't humanly possible. There are some people that aren't demon possessed and yet have the gift to know when someone is and can see things on a spiritual plain when others can't so it's possible she hasn't been possessed, but have something that's trying to get to her and this is where God is truly important. Demons are complicated because there are so much to each one. They each have their personality just as a human does and they each have their own rules and certain scriptures that may work on one demon may not work on another. You could pray for God to heal her and for God to bind the demon somewhere it belongs. I must warn you, though, to never try to cast it out yourself unless you absolutely know what you're doing. Some scriptures are more powerful on demons than others, but the same scriptures may not work on each one and once you cast a demon out, you need to send it somewhere where it can't escape and go to anyone else or into another area. Letting a demon out if you don't know what you're doing can lead to serious consequences if you don't know what you're doing and don't have the gift to heal others in that manner. I believe some people may possibly have a demon inside them for a reason. Perhaps it is God's will for them to be tormented for something they did or for a certain reason. Some people have also played with the spiritual realm through a Ouija board or another spiritual ritual. Some people that have given blood in a Satanic ritual can have a demon following them everywhere or sitting on their shoulder that most people aren't able to see. So they aren't exactly demon possessed because the demon is following them on the outside and not the inside. However, all things are possible to Christ so if they come to God about their problem and everything and truly want to be a servant of God and not be tormented anymore if that's what it is then God is the one that can change that. However, even though I do not know their situation exactly, I will still pray for your friend smile best of luck and please, don't take any spiritual intervention even if you want to help your friend because it is dangerous. The power of prayer is the best bet since the spiritual realm is far more complex and beyond most of our understanding. No I don't plan to cast it out of her, I don't even know if she is possesed >.< that's why I said most likely, I can't say she is but I would appreciate any prayers for her and Thank you ^^
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:09 pm
emorhconom esor Or she could just have a disorder. There are many disorders that can seem like someone is possessed and they aren't such as schizophrenia and DID. Someone told my mom I was possessed just because I have ADHD which isn't true. Please don't jump to conclusions about her. There is a scripture that says that if the person has had a demon driven out of them and they do not become saved the demon will come back with other's. “When an evil spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that man is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.” (Matthew 12:43-45 NIV84) Well actually I never said she was demon possesed which is why I said most likely, I can't say she is since I don't know but I would appreciate prayers though. And yeah she might be schizophrenic but if she is schizophrenic I think all she has to do is stop eating meat and it'll go away. As for DID I have no clue. And yeah that would most likely happen if she doesn't get saved (the scripture thing that is) but I just want prayers I don't think I'd be the one casting it out of her, I just want prayers for her because either way prayers for her situation would be very much appreciated smile and Thank you for taking the time to reply!
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:12 pm
Dramatica Angeliqua I'll pray for Frida. I think YahuShalum mentioned her to me; she's muslim, right? I'll pray for her salvation. smile He might have mentioned her to you. And yeah from what I hear she's muslim. And thank you very much for praying!!!
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:20 pm
thrashmetaljunkie Aquatic_blue I will definitely be praying with your friend. Demon possession is definitely something that is uncool. However, people that are demon possessed will do more than have voices talking to them, they can sometimes have a strange feeling about them. Some will do things that aren't humanly possible. There are some people that aren't demon possessed and yet have the gift to know when someone is and can see things on a spiritual plain when others can't so it's possible she hasn't been possessed, but have something that's trying to get to her and this is where God is truly important. Demons are complicated because there are so much to each one. They each have their personality just as a human does and they each have their own rules and certain scriptures that may work on one demon may not work on another. You could pray for God to heal her and for God to bind the demon somewhere it belongs. I must warn you, though, to never try to cast it out yourself unless you absolutely know what you're doing. Some scriptures are more powerful on demons than others, but the same scriptures may not work on each one and once you cast a demon out, you need to send it somewhere where it can't escape and go to anyone else or into another area. Letting a demon out if you don't know what you're doing can lead to serious consequences if you don't know what you're doing and don't have the gift to heal others in that manner. I believe some people may possibly have a demon inside them for a reason. Perhaps it is God's will for them to be tormented for something they did or for a certain reason. Some people have also played with the spiritual realm through a Ouija board or another spiritual ritual. Some people that have given blood in a Satanic ritual can have a demon following them everywhere or sitting on their shoulder that most people aren't able to see. So they aren't exactly demon possessed because the demon is following them on the outside and not the inside. However, all things are possible to Christ so if they come to God about their problem and everything and truly want to be a servant of God and not be tormented anymore if that's what it is then God is the one that can change that. However, even though I do not know their situation exactly, I will still pray for your friend smile best of luck and please, don't take any spiritual intervention even if you want to help your friend because it is dangerous. The power of prayer is the best bet since the spiritual realm is far more complex and beyond most of our understanding. I second this, the spiritual realm isnt just demons and angels, it is complex. When you dont know entirely what it is you are doing, prayer is your most powerful weapon. I will recommend a book to you. It is called This Present Darkness. Its a great book. its fictional, but does a great job of portraying the spiritual realm. The Author is Frank Perretti. I'd suggest reading it to get a better view on things ^_^ Well I tend to leave these things to Elohim. I pray about them first and like to be led by him in things. As for the book I don't guarantee I'll read it but I might because I have trouble reading books >.< and Thank you very much for all your help!
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:38 am
It sounds to me like she could be suffering from a mental illness. Potentially a very serious one.
How old is she? (I only ask because many kinds of mental illness will not manifest itself in many people until adolescence and/or youg adulthood.) Besides alledgedly hearing voices, what else about her behaviour makes you think she is a victim of demonic possession?
I think that she should see a mental health professional (ideally a Christian one who won't automatically dismiss the possibility of demonic activity, but can also diagnose mental illness when s/he sees it).
It's just important that if this is in fact the result of mental illness, that she gets the treatment she needs for it sooner rather than later. History (some of it very recent) is full of sad stories of the mentally ill being treated like demons and abominations when they probably could have lived fairly normal lives if they'd received the treatment they needed.
Long story short, when demonic posession is suspected, RULE OUT MENTAL ILLNESS FIRST.
Regardless, though, I will pray that she finds the source of her problems and finds a way to get through them. smile
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:16 am
starry night-163 emorhconom esor Or she could just have a disorder. There are many disorders that can seem like someone is possessed and they aren't such as schizophrenia and DID. Someone told my mom I was possessed just because I have ADHD which isn't true. Please don't jump to conclusions about her. There is a scripture that says that if the person has had a demon driven out of them and they do not become saved the demon will come back with other's. “When an evil spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that man is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.” (Matthew 12:43-45 NIV84) Well actually I never said she was demon possesed which is why I said most likely, I can't say she is since I don't know but I would appreciate prayers though. And yeah she might be schizophrenic but if she is schizophrenic I think all she has to do is stop eating meat and it'll go away. As for DID I have no clue. And yeah that would most likely happen if she doesn't get saved (the scripture thing that is) but I just want prayers I don't think I'd be the one casting it out of her, I just want prayers for her because either way prayers for her situation would be very much appreciated smile and Thank you for taking the time to reply! Where did you hear that schizophrenia goes away if you stop eating meat? That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. I don't say that to make you feel bad, I think you've just been grossly misinformed. Schizophrenia is a very complicated, often terribly debilitating mental illness. Now, there are different types of schizophrenia and each case varies from person to person, but it many cases it's a sort of disconnect with reality. You may experience auditory and visual hallucinations that you are unable to distinguish from reality. You may have delusions of paranoia where you think someone or something is trying to do you harm. And when left untreated, these hallucinations and delusions are just as real to you as things that actually exist. You stop being able to trust your own eyes and ears and mind to distinguish between what's real and what's imaginary, and it can be absolutely terrifying. There is no cure. There are various medications and therapy that can help those afflicted manage their illness and in some cases, some people with schizophrenia can lead relatively normal, productive lives. Others are doomed to spend their lives in mental institutions. But the notion that schizophrenia goes away if you stop eating meat is absolutely absurd.
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:12 am
SinfulGuillotine starry night-163 emorhconom esor Or she could just have a disorder. There are many disorders that can seem like someone is possessed and they aren't such as schizophrenia and DID. Someone told my mom I was possessed just because I have ADHD which isn't true. Please don't jump to conclusions about her. There is a scripture that says that if the person has had a demon driven out of them and they do not become saved the demon will come back with other's. “When an evil spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that man is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.” (Matthew 12:43-45 NIV84) Well actually I never said she was demon possesed which is why I said most likely, I can't say she is since I don't know but I would appreciate prayers though. And yeah she might be schizophrenic but if she is schizophrenic I think all she has to do is stop eating meat and it'll go away. As for DID I have no clue. And yeah that would most likely happen if she doesn't get saved (the scripture thing that is) but I just want prayers I don't think I'd be the one casting it out of her, I just want prayers for her because either way prayers for her situation would be very much appreciated smile and Thank you for taking the time to reply! Where did you hear that schizophrenia goes away if you stop eating meat? That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. I don't say that to make you feel bad, I think you've just been grossly misinformed. Schizophrenia is a very complicated, often terribly debilitating mental illness. Now, there are different types of schizophrenia and each case varies from person to person, but it many cases it's a sort of disconnect with reality. You may experience auditory and visual hallucinations that you are unable to distinguish from reality. You may have delusions of paranoia where you think someone or something is trying to do you harm. And when left untreated, these hallucinations and delusions are just as real to you as things that actually exist. You stop being able to trust your own eyes and ears and mind to distinguish between what's real and what's imaginary, and it can be absolutely terrifying. There is no cure. There are various medications and therapy that can help those afflicted manage their illness and in some cases, some people with schizophrenia can lead relatively normal, productive lives. Others are doomed to spend their lives in mental institutions. But the notion that schizophrenia goes away if you stop eating meat is absolutely absurd. That would be like saying there is no cure for cancer and other supposeble incurable diseases which there is but they're oviously lying to us, or that cavities aren't reversable which some are I believe just that fluoride gets in the way of your tooth healing and on top of that it's no good it's just toxic waist turned into a product with that lie that it prevents cavities and on top of it being poison it like calms you down which is why I believe is why Hitler gave it to the people he held captive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP4pJnHIQ_E that video should explain about schizophrenia. Don't believe everything you are told, research it yourself. I maybe should have just said animal protein by the way, which I think would mean any animal product not just meat.
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