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 Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:37 am
OK, so some friends or mine were arguing about burqas, following the burqa ban in France. Some of them say that burqas are oppressive, and I admit, it's hard for me not to feel compassion towards a woman in a burqa when I see a photo or video of one, but other friends said that without burqas, those women wouldn't even be able to go outside, that it gives them some freedom they wouldn't have, and that with the ban, those women won't be able to go outside at all. So I'm not sure what side I'm on. I can't help feeling uninformed about the issue, because I live in a place where I've never seen a person wearing a burqa, and it's not really a big issue here.
I think in Iran, or some countries near it some women wear burqas, though I might be wrong. Anyway what is everyone's thoughts on the issue?
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:54 am
Bokusenou OK, so some friends or mine were arguing about burqas, following the burqa ban in France. Some of them say that burqas are oppressive, and I admit, it's hard for me not to feel compassion towards a woman in a burqa when I see a photo or video of one, but other friends said that without burqas, those women wouldn't even be able to go outside, that it gives them some freedom they wouldn't have, and that with the ban, those women won't be able to go outside at all. So I'm not sure what side I'm on. I can't help feeling uninformed about the issue, because I live in a place where I've never seen a person wearing a burqa, and it's not really a big issue here. I think in Iran, or some countries near it some women wear burqas, though I might be wrong. Anyway what is everyone's thoughts on the issue? Umm... I am completely opposite of Burqa ... even in Qur'an is mentioned that it is better for women to wear Jilbab which is a big piece of cloth wear on breasts and hair. If we want to talk about Burqa historically ...It was even used by Arab women even before Islam...you know in old times there was no SPF so women (and even men) used Burqa to protect their skin from the sunlight. and about Iran ... Burqas were not popular in Iran till Qajar era . as you can see in this picture from Safavid Era(1600s) :  and then in Qajar Era(1800s) they become really popular among religious people but there were people who didn't wear it : and then in Pahlavi Era (1925-1979) Hijab became banned (During Reza shah Era it was completely banned and during Mohammadreza shah era it was banned in schools,universities ,etc.): but after Islamic revolution ... Having Hijab became rule so everyone have to hide her hair but Burqa is not popular at all; but religious women wear Chador...:
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:21 am
Redfa Umm... I am completely opposite of Burqa ... even in Qur'an is mentioned that it is better for women to wear Jilbab which is a big piece of cloth wear on breasts and hair. If we want to talk about Burqa historically ...It was even used by Arab women even before Islam...you know in old times there was no SPF so women (and even men) used Burqa to protect their skin from the sunlight. and about Iran ... Burqas were not popular in Iran till Qajar era . as you can see in this picture from Safavid Era(1600s) : Ah, so it was historically used to protect skin from the sun? That makes sense. So Iranian women wear a Hijab or Chador now...I thought I saw something that looks like a burqa in one scene of the Iranian movie "Offside", so I guess I just assumed it was one of the areas where they were worn. It's interesting that wearing a hijab is the rule now there. In the US, religious Muslim women seem to wear a Hijab, as I often see them on the bus.
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:57 pm
You should know there is a difference between a Burqa and a Niqab. Most people put them into 1 categorey but they are indeed different. The Burqa is forced on women who live in Afghanistan. Nearly no one wears it outside Afhanistan and the borderlands with other countries like Pakistan. Niqab is worn willingly worldwide. I've seen this several times in America and the UK. I am okay with the Niqab, but I think Burqa is merely cultural and has no Islamic reasoning. But anytime you DENY the choices of another person, its wrong. By imposing this law on women, they take away their choice to wear it. So rather than being an advocate for women who may be forced to wear it, you are then taking away the choice from women who want to wear it. So obviously I disagree with the law and am confident that s**t will never happen in America.
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 3:47 pm
Bokusenou Redfa Umm... I am completely opposite of Burqa ... even in Qur'an is mentioned that it is better for women to wear Jilbab which is a big piece of cloth wear on breasts and hair. If we want to talk about Burqa historically ...It was even used by Arab women even before Islam...you know in old times there was no SPF so women (and even men) used Burqa to protect their skin from the sunlight. and about Iran ... Burqas were not popular in Iran till Qajar era . as you can see in this picture from Safavid Era(1600s) : Ah, so it was historically used to protect skin from the sun? That makes sense. So Iranian women wear a Hijab or Chador now...I thought I saw something that looks like a burqa in one scene of the Iranian movie "Offside", so I guess I just assumed it was one of the areas where they were worn. It's interesting that wearing a hijab is the rule now there. In the US, religious Muslim women seem to wear a Hijab, as I often see them on the bus. Unn are you sure you saw some one with Burqa in "Offside"? I have watched that movie ...it was one of the only movies featuring a woman without Hijab ....The one which was disguised as a soldier..
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:27 pm
I think a woman can wear one if she wants to and if not then she shouldn't have to. That's just my opinion.
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:03 pm
As a man I feel sorry for women who wear these stuff ...once I saw an Arab woman who was wearing one of those which completely hides .
and I couldn't figure out which way her face is looking at.... just so strange...
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:03 pm
When I think of Hejab in general,I get to a point where I can only say:
Hejab is neccesary in today`s Iran because without it the chances of the women being violated raises to the roof.Persian men are not properly educated to control themselves against women.A barrier is needed between them.Unless we can educate men to control themselves,there is no way we can make sure women can be safe without proper clothes.
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:42 am
-Creative-Suicide- When I think of Hejab in general,I get to a point where I can only say: Hejab is neccesary in today`s Iran because without it the chances of the women being violated raises to the roof.Persian men are not properly educated to control themselves against women.A barrier is needed between them.Unless we can educate men to control themselves,there is no way we can make sure women can be safe without proper clothes. Did we have this problem before revolution? No. Even now which Hijab is obligated lots of people doesn't have what is calle the proper clothing... So do men rape them?
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:53 am
-Creative-Suicide- When I think of Hejab in general,I get to a point where I can only say: Hejab is neccesary in today`s Iran because without it the chances of the women being violated raises to the roof.Persian men are not properly educated to control themselves against women.A barrier is needed between them.Unless we can educate men to control themselves,there is no way we can make sure women can be safe without proper clothes. It's not a good thing to say...It's even rude..You're an Iranian man tooo!
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:03 am
Puuya -Creative-Suicide- When I think of Hejab in general,I get to a point where I can only say: Hejab is neccesary in today`s Iran because without it the chances of the women being violated raises to the roof.Persian men are not properly educated to control themselves against women.A barrier is needed between them.Unless we can educate men to control themselves,there is no way we can make sure women can be safe without proper clothes. It's not a good thing to say...It's even rude..You're an Iranian man tooo! I am with Puuya on this!
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:57 am
Redfa -Creative-Suicide- When I think of Hejab in general,I get to a point where I can only say: Hejab is neccesary in today`s Iran because without it the chances of the women being violated raises to the roof.Persian men are not properly educated to control themselves against women.A barrier is needed between them.Unless we can educate men to control themselves,there is no way we can make sure women can be safe without proper clothes. Did we have this problem before revolution? No. Even now which Hijab is obligated lots of people doesn't have what is calle the proper clothing... So do men rape them? Violation doesn`t mean rape neccesarily.It means disturbance.And yes a lot of them are.
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:02 am
Puuya -Creative-Suicide- When I think of Hejab in general,I get to a point where I can only say: Hejab is neccesary in today`s Iran because without it the chances of the women being violated raises to the roof.Persian men are not properly educated to control themselves against women.A barrier is needed between them.Unless we can educate men to control themselves,there is no way we can make sure women can be safe without proper clothes. It's not a good thing to say...It's even rude..You're an Iranian man tooo! I am.And I do well try to prevent myself from ever looking at women in a lustful way.But many can`t.Even worst,they do not want to.Let me ask you a question: Whenever you see a women in the street wearing...I don`t know a T-shirt or something,wouldn`t you turn back and follow her to her home.Some people can answer no to that question.But look at your friends in school or univercity or w/e.wouldn`t they? We have a lot of boys in iran that have to fight daily with their natural needs. If you suddenly, without a background, give them the opportunity to do so, the effects will be disastorous.
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:47 am
-Creative-Suicide- Puuya -Creative-Suicide- When I think of Hejab in general,I get to a point where I can only say: Hejab is neccesary in today`s Iran because without it the chances of the women being violated raises to the roof.Persian men are not properly educated to control themselves against women.A barrier is needed between them.Unless we can educate men to control themselves,there is no way we can make sure women can be safe without proper clothes. It's not a good thing to say...It's even rude..You're an Iranian man tooo! I am.And I do well try to prevent myself from ever looking at women in a lustful way.But many can`t.Even worst,they do not want to.Let me ask you a question: Whenever you see a women in the street wearing...I don`t know a T-shirt or something,wouldn`t you turn back and follow her to her home.Some people can answer no to that question.But look at your friends in school or univercity or w/e.wouldn`t they? We have a lot of boys in iran that have to fight daily with their natural needs. If you suddenly, without a background, give them the opportunity to do so, the effects will be disastorous. Hahahha... The points is that we mustn't force women to do something...if a woman thinks it's better to have hijab...so go on and wear it but if someone thinks she'll not have any problems so she can choose to no have hijab...!
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:48 am
Puuya -Creative-Suicide- Puuya -Creative-Suicide- When I think of Hejab in general,I get to a point where I can only say: Hejab is neccesary in today`s Iran because without it the chances of the women being violated raises to the roof.Persian men are not properly educated to control themselves against women.A barrier is needed between them.Unless we can educate men to control themselves,there is no way we can make sure women can be safe without proper clothes. It's not a good thing to say...It's even rude..You're an Iranian man tooo! I am.And I do well try to prevent myself from ever looking at women in a lustful way.But many can`t.Even worst,they do not want to.Let me ask you a question: Whenever you see a women in the street wearing...I don`t know a T-shirt or something,wouldn`t you turn back and follow her to her home.Some people can answer no to that question.But look at your friends in school or univercity or w/e.wouldn`t they? We have a lot of boys in iran that have to fight daily with their natural needs. If you suddenly, without a background, give them the opportunity to do so, the effects will be disastorous. Hahahha... The points is that we mustn't force women to do something...if a woman thinks it's better to have hijab...so go on and wear it but if someone thinks she'll not have any problems so she can choose to no have hijab...! I didn`t say anything about forcing women.I simply spoke about what`s better for them.I am not a fan of hijab,but right now,it`s compulsory and untill this goverment is gone,hijab is here.
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