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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 2:01 pm
What was the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden? Does anyone know what it was? I think it was either an apple or pomegranate. Wiki The pseudepigraphic Book of Enoch 31:4, dating from the last few centuries before Christ and purporting to be by the antediluvian prophet Enoch, describes the tree of knowledge: "It was like a species of the Tamarind tree, bearing fruit which resembled grapes extremely fine; and its fragrance extended to a considerable distance. I exclaimed, How beautiful is this tree, and how delightful is its appearance!" In the Talmud, Rabbi Meir says that the fruit was a grape.[9] Another Talmudic tradition suggests that Eve made wine from the fruit, which she then drank.[10] Rabbi Nechemia says that the fruit was a fig,[9] while Rabbi Yehuda proposes that the fruit was wheat.[9] In Western Christian art, the fruit of the tree is commonly depicted as the apple, which originated in central Asia. This depiction may have originated as a Latin pun: by eating the malum (apple), Eve contracted mālum (evil).[11] Proponents of the theory that the Garden of Eden was located somewhere in what is known now as the Middle East suggest that the fruit was actually a pomegranate, partly because it was native in the region This ties in with the Greek myth of Persephone, where her consumption of six pomegranate seeds leads to her having to spend time in Hades.
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 2:18 pm
It was fig plants. The tree of life was a Marijuana plant.
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 2:49 pm
It wasn't an actual fruit, it was a metaphor for the knowledge of right and wrong, and possibly self awareness. In knowing what was right and wrong, we were capable of choosing between the two knowingly, and therefore became susceptible to sin.
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 4:29 pm
It was the "fruit of knowledge" or the "fruit from the tree of knowledge" which was supposed to be a metaphor for free will and independent thought.
However, the fruit is most often depicted as an apple.
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:29 pm
Most people I've read who look further say it was probably an banana or a fig. Someone I read said it couldn't be an apple, but I can't remember why...
I'm gonna go with banana though. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:36 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Most people I've read who look further say it was probably an banana or a fig. Someone I read said it couldn't be an apple, but I can't remember why... I'm gonna go with banana though. 3nodding I don't get why some think it is a fig. I think a banana is a more likely candidate for a forbidden fruit then a fig is. However most portrayals are of a round fruit bitten directly into (yes orange peels are edible).
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:54 pm
lucid_mirror xxEternallyBluexx Most people I've read who look further say it was probably an banana or a fig. Someone I read said it couldn't be an apple, but I can't remember why... I'm gonna go with banana though. 3nodding I don't get why some think it is a fig. I think a banana is a more likely candidate for a forbidden fruit then a fig is. However most portrayals are of a round fruit bitten directly into (yes orange peels are edible). I've never even had a fig, which is why I'm not gonna go with it. It could be something like a grape though... Wikipedia The pseudepigraphic Book of Enoch 31:4, dating from the last few centuries before Christ and purporting to be by the antediluvian prophet Enoch, describes the tree of knowledge: "It was like a species of the Tamarind tree, bearing fruit which resembled grapes extremely fine; and its fragrance extended to a considerable distance. I exclaimed, How beautiful is this tree, and how delightful is its appearance!" In the Talmud, Rabbi Meir says that the fruit was a grape.[9] Another Talmudic tradition suggests that Eve made wine from the fruit, which she then drank.[10] Rabbi Nechemia says that the fruit was a fig,[9] while Rabbi Yehuda proposes that the fruit was wheat.[9] In Western Christian art, the fruit of the tree is commonly depicted as the apple, which originated in central Asia. This depiction may have originated as a Latin pun: by eating the malum (apple), Eve contracted mālum (evil).[11] Proponents of the theory that the Garden of Eden was located somewhere in what is known now as the Middle East suggest that the fruit was actually a pomegranate, partly because it was native in the region[12] This ties in with the Greek myth of Persephone, where her consumption of six pomegranate seeds leads to her having to spend time in Hades.[13]
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:31 pm
What, really? You think God got pissed over a banana?
Forbidden fruit? I can go pick one up at the gas station for a quarter.
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:37 pm
divineseraph What, really? You think God got pissed over a banana? Forbidden fruit? I can go pick one up at the gas station for a quarter. I think He got upset over the disobedience and over losing them. I don't think the fruit had any special properties except giving them the freedom to sin. I do think the other fruit has special properties though, which is why we got kicked out of the garden.
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:51 pm
xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph What, really? You think God got pissed over a banana? Forbidden fruit? I can go pick one up at the gas station for a quarter. I think He got upset over the disobedience and over losing them. I don't think the fruit had any special properties except giving them the freedom to sin. I do think the other fruit has special properties though, which is why we got kicked out of the garden. Question,I am just curious, why do you say "we" got kicked out of the garden? We, any one after Adam and Eve, were not in the garden. I certainly wasn't there and certainly was not meant to be there.
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 7:55 pm
Shadows-shine xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph What, really? You think God got pissed over a banana? Forbidden fruit? I can go pick one up at the gas station for a quarter. I think He got upset over the disobedience and over losing them. I don't think the fruit had any special properties except giving them the freedom to sin. I do think the other fruit has special properties though, which is why we got kicked out of the garden. Question,I am just curious, why do you say "we" got kicked out of the garden? We, any one after Adam and Eve, were not in the garden. I certainly wasn't there and certainly was not meant to be there. Let's also question why are fate was destined by other people and why such a test was even made. It's not like we could have ignored the tongue of he, Satan. It was just how it happened. That's like saying it is your fault for seeing things after taking DMT, the effects are caused by the DMT and can't just be ignored or controlled.
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:54 pm
It wasn't an actual fruit. In the Genesis mythos, it depends on Abrahamic religion what it means. One interpretation I'm partial to it being a symbol of self-awareness and becoming morally responsible for one's actions.
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:18 am
Damn...I was watching the History channel one day that was going over the various apple myths that there were out there, including the interpretation of the fruit of the tree of knowledge being depicted as an apple. I want to say that apples were actually metaphors for some type of sexual awareness but I just can't remember now. I'm going to have to look that up.
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:15 pm
An apple tree has apples, a fig tree has figs, a pomegranate tree has pomegranates, so the tree of the knowledge of good and evil would have its own distinct fruit. And since it was a one of a kind tree, it would be a seedless fruit with no way of reproducing, and since Adam and Eve were banished we will never be able to see that "new" fruit with our own eyes in our lifetime.
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 3:33 pm
Tomato? In our language it translates roughly into "paradise fruit". razz
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