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Yuka Swatari

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:02 pm


So have this friend.

She has become Scene/Emo/Punk/Goth, while she used to be miss girly girl modest person.

BUT here is the thing. This girl is a STRONG Christian, she would give up anything and everything for God.

She doesn't curse, ect, and follows what to do and not to do from the Bible. On the other hand, she also LOVES to gossip about me behind my back, and compete with all her friends to make her seem better than everyone else, or to make herself seem problematic, to get sympathy from others.

This girl was my best friend.

To get to the point, if she dresses in black and skulls and such with heavy eye makeup and such, is this considered anti-Christian. Or wrong in the Faith? She is even getting her hair dyed black, and only wears skinny jeans and converse. Another thing is that her personality is COMPLETELY different from what she portrays in her looks. I just don't understand....

So can someone clarify this to me?

What is going on with her? What are your opinions on these things?


PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:18 pm


Yuka Swatari
So have this friend.

She has become Scene/Emo/Punk/Goth, while she used to be miss girly girl modest person.

BUT here is the thing. This girl is a STRONG Christian, she would give up anything and everything for God.

She doesn't curse, ect, and follows what to do and not to do from the Bible. On the other hand, she also LOVES to gossip about me behind my back, and compete with all her friends to make her seem better than everyone else, or to make herself seem problematic, to get sympathy from others.

This girl was my best friend.

To get to the point, if she dresses in black and skulls and such with heavy eye makeup and such, is this considered anti-Christian. Or wrong in the Faith? She is even getting her hair dyed black, and only wears skinny jeans and converse. Another thing is that her personality is COMPLETELY different from what she portrays in her looks. I just don't understand....

So can someone clarify this to me?

What is going on with her? What are your opinions on these things?




Anti-Christian...no
Confused...perhaps

lordstar


Yuka Swatari

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:33 pm


lordstar
Yuka Swatari
So have this friend.

She has become Scene/Emo/Punk/Goth, while she used to be miss girly girl modest person.

BUT here is the thing. This girl is a STRONG Christian, she would give up anything and everything for God.

She doesn't curse, ect, and follows what to do and not to do from the Bible. On the other hand, she also LOVES to gossip about me behind my back, and compete with all her friends to make her seem better than everyone else, or to make herself seem problematic, to get sympathy from others.

This girl was my best friend.

To get to the point, if she dresses in black and skulls and such with heavy eye makeup and such, is this considered anti-Christian. Or wrong in the Faith? She is even getting her hair dyed black, and only wears skinny jeans and converse. Another thing is that her personality is COMPLETELY different from what she portrays in her looks. I just don't understand....

So can someone clarify this to me?

What is going on with her? What are your opinions on these things?




Anti-Christian...no
Confused...perhaps


Thanks. I wasn't sure.

Me or her confused?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:37 pm


Yuka Swatari
lordstar
Yuka Swatari
So have this friend.

She has become Scene/Emo/Punk/Goth, while she used to be miss girly girl modest person.

BUT here is the thing. This girl is a STRONG Christian, she would give up anything and everything for God.

She doesn't curse, ect, and follows what to do and not to do from the Bible. On the other hand, she also LOVES to gossip about me behind my back, and compete with all her friends to make her seem better than everyone else, or to make herself seem problematic, to get sympathy from others.

This girl was my best friend.

To get to the point, if she dresses in black and skulls and such with heavy eye makeup and such, is this considered anti-Christian. Or wrong in the Faith? She is even getting her hair dyed black, and only wears skinny jeans and converse. Another thing is that her personality is COMPLETELY different from what she portrays in her looks. I just don't understand....

So can someone clarify this to me?

What is going on with her? What are your opinions on these things?




Anti-Christian...no
Confused...perhaps


Thanks. I wasn't sure.

Me or her confused?


Her

lordstar


Yuka Swatari

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:47 pm


lordstar
Yuka Swatari
lordstar
Yuka Swatari
So have this friend.

She has become Scene/Emo/Punk/Goth, while she used to be miss girly girl modest person.

BUT here is the thing. This girl is a STRONG Christian, she would give up anything and everything for God.

She doesn't curse, ect, and follows what to do and not to do from the Bible. On the other hand, she also LOVES to gossip about me behind my back, and compete with all her friends to make her seem better than everyone else, or to make herself seem problematic, to get sympathy from others.

This girl was my best friend.

To get to the point, if she dresses in black and skulls and such with heavy eye makeup and such, is this considered anti-Christian. Or wrong in the Faith? She is even getting her hair dyed black, and only wears skinny jeans and converse. Another thing is that her personality is COMPLETELY different from what she portrays in her looks. I just don't understand....

So can someone clarify this to me?

What is going on with her? What are your opinions on these things?




Anti-Christian...no
Confused...perhaps


Thanks. I wasn't sure.

Me or her confused?


Her

I see. I just feel I am losing her, and that she is not being true to herself. It's sad for me, you know?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:49 pm



<3

You can't judge a person's faith by the way they look. In fact, that's incredibly against The Bible. Do not judge. The people with the strongest faith in The Bible were often those who were outcasts. If not every single one of them.

It is not a sin to dress any way you want, as long as you don't provoke sexual thoughts (intentionally).


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promised_child

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:47 pm


all i can say is love her and let her figure out who she is, shes confused. or she just feels comfortable now with becoming who she thinks she is, like I am punk, allways have been. well actually a sorta Gothy-Punky blend that involves my whole personality- but i am overweight (and working on it) so i dont feel comfortable dressing how i want to dress, butonce i lose the weight i will dress more like me, so maybe thats just what your friend is trying to do. or she doesnt know who she is and shes trying to figure it out, or she has forgotten who she is, and needs a strong friend(like you) by her side.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:08 am


promised_child
all i can say is love her and let her figure out who she is, shes confused. or she just feels comfortable now with becoming who she thinks she is, like I am punk, allways have been. well actually a sorta Gothy-Punky blend that involves my whole personality- but i am overweight (and working on it) so i dont feel comfortable dressing how i want to dress, butonce i lose the weight i will dress more like me, so maybe thats just what your friend is trying to do. or she doesnt know who she is and shes trying to figure it out, or she has forgotten who she is, and needs a strong friend(like you) by her side.


Brilliantly said.
kind of like fumbling through the fog feeling for what is right

and just to add

try not to flick your flashlight directly at her...you might blind the poor girl

lordstar


missymisa

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:48 pm


she is probably just confused and trying to figure out who she is, give her so time, it will pass
PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:51 pm


lordstar
promised_child
all i can say is love her and let her figure out who she is, shes confused. or she just feels comfortable now with becoming who she thinks she is, like I am punk, allways have been. well actually a sorta Gothy-Punky blend that involves my whole personality- but i am overweight (and working on it) so i dont feel comfortable dressing how i want to dress, butonce i lose the weight i will dress more like me, so maybe thats just what your friend is trying to do. or she doesnt know who she is and shes trying to figure it out, or she has forgotten who she is, and needs a strong friend(like you) by her side.


Brilliantly said.
kind of like fumbling through the fog feeling for what is right

and just to add

try not to flick your flashlight directly at her...you might blind the poor girl


see i knew it was impossible that we disagree on everything.
rofl

promised_child


lordstar

PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:00 am


promised_child
lordstar
promised_child
all i can say is love her and let her figure out who she is, shes confused. or she just feels comfortable now with becoming who she thinks she is, like I am punk, allways have been. well actually a sorta Gothy-Punky blend that involves my whole personality- but i am overweight (and working on it) so i dont feel comfortable dressing how i want to dress, butonce i lose the weight i will dress more like me, so maybe thats just what your friend is trying to do. or she doesnt know who she is and shes trying to figure it out, or she has forgotten who she is, and needs a strong friend(like you) by her side.


Brilliantly said.
kind of like fumbling through the fog feeling for what is right

and just to add

try not to flick your flashlight directly at her...you might blind the poor girl


see i knew it was impossible that we disagree on everything.
rofl


Are you rofl about the flashlight comment?
It is so annoying when someone flicks his or her lights at ya while driving in near zero visibility fog. Makes me want to light them on fire.
Bay area/ fog = sucks
PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:07 pm


lordstar
promised_child
lordstar
promised_child
all i can say is love her and let her figure out who she is, shes confused. or she just feels comfortable now with becoming who she thinks she is, like I am punk, allways have been. well actually a sorta Gothy-Punky blend that involves my whole personality- but i am overweight (and working on it) so i dont feel comfortable dressing how i want to dress, butonce i lose the weight i will dress more like me, so maybe thats just what your friend is trying to do. or she doesnt know who she is and shes trying to figure it out, or she has forgotten who she is, and needs a strong friend(like you) by her side.


Brilliantly said.
kind of like fumbling through the fog feeling for what is right

and just to add

try not to flick your flashlight directly at her...you might blind the poor girl


see i knew it was impossible that we disagree on everything.
rofl


Are you rofl about the flashlight comment?
It is so annoying when someone flicks his or her lights at ya while driving in near zero visibility fog. Makes me want to light them on fire.
Bay area/ fog = sucks


you should try WA rain- or the backlash of a hurracain in Ardmore ok....... and yes rofl the flashlight comment

promised_child


SilentNinjaFox

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:14 am


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:38 am


Yuka Swatari
To get to the point, if she dresses in black and skulls and such with heavy eye makeup and such, is this considered anti-Christian.




Why would this make her anti-Christian? o_O

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Manual Calavera

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:12 am


There are really two things to look at here.

1: The outside.

People will, unfortunately, judge a book by its cover. This can work in the Lord's favor, as we look at:

2: The inside.

If she is still steadfast for God, she may reach people by dressing in this way that she may otherwise not have reached. In my time dressing in all black (with the occasional blue-jean, black-t-shirt ensemble) I've been described as "goth," trying to look "like a rock star," and "beatnik."

Am I any of those things? Of course not. Is there anything wrong with them? I sure hope not. Am I any less for God now than I ever was? God has only drawn me closer to Himself.



As Christians, it is not our place to judge. We know that God is the perfect judge of character. Sometimes He will give us warnings about certain dangerous people, but no matter what a person looks like on the outside, remember that God has a purpose for everyone, and only disassociate yourself with people who are harmful to you by their actions.

Be forgiving. Be careful. But don't judge a book by its cover.


I swear, Moby d**k is really good, but the holiest book, the words of God, the Bible, is bound so similarly that I carried a copy of the former to school and my schoolmates, knowing me, asked me if it was the latter.

Base your judgements on her by her actions and attitudes towards God and the Church in general, not her clothes or the number of skulls she wears (although please warn her against pentagrams and satanic symbols).
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