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faolan

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:50 am


The Associated Press
1 Joint Equals Up to 5 Cigarettes
Tuesday, 31 July 2007
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A single joint of marijuana obstructs the flow of air as much as smoking up to five tobacco cigarettes, but long-term pot use does not increase the risk of developing emphysema, new research suggests.

The study by New Zealand's Medical Research Institute found that longtime pot smokers can develop symptoms of asthma and bronchitis, along with obstruction of the large airways and excessive lung inflation. The paper was released Tuesday ahead of its publication in the journal Thorax.

"The study shows that one cannabis joint causes a similar degree of lung damage as between 2.5 and five tobacco cigarettes," said lead author Sarah Aldington.

However, the researchers found that the progressive chronic lung disease emphysema, often associated with cigarette smoking, was uncommon among marijuana smokers. Only 1.3 percent of the long-term pot smokers were found to have signs of the disease compared to 16.3 percent of those who combined marijuana and tobacco, and 18.9 percent of those who only smoked tobacco.

Marijuana smokers had symptoms that included wheezing, coughing, chest tightness and phlegm - all of which were associated with tobacco smokers, except chest tightness.

The study, which used lung function tests, high-resolution X-rays and questionnaires, also revealed that among marijuana smokers damage occurred to the small, fine airways which are important for taking in oxygen and removing waste gases. The extent of damage rose in proportion to the number of joints smoked.

Last week, another study published in The Lancet medical journal suggested that using marijuana may increase the likelihood of becoming psychotic, with even infrequent use potentially raising the overall small risk by up to 40 percent.

The three-year Thorax study involved 339 people in New Zealand, where pot smoking is fairly common. An estimated 160 million people use marijuana worldwide.

Participants were recruited into four groups based on smoking habits - nonsmokers, tobacco-only smokers, tobacco and marijuana smokers, and marijuana-only smokers.

To qualify as a long-term marijuana user, participants had to have smoked a minimum of one joint a day for five years, said institute director Richard Beasley, who also participated in the study. Tobacco users had to have smoked a pack a day for one year.

Earlier studies have shown that smoking one joint results in three to five times more carbon monoxide and tar inhaled than smoking a cigarette of the same size. The New Zealand research also showed that the "products of combustion" in marijuana are very similar to tobacco, Beasley said.

Part of the reason for this is the way joints are smoked, with users often inhaling and holding the smoke in longer for a better hit. Marijuana joints typically do not have filters and they have shorter butts than cigarettes with a higher smoke temperature. Pot also is commonly smoked through various types of pipes.

Jeff Garrett, president of the Australia-New Zealand Thoracic Society, who was not involved in the study, said that although researchers found emphysema among marijuana smokers relatively rare, he emphasized that it does occur.
Hospital specialists also are seeing an increasing number of people with emphysema specifically related to marijuana smoking, he said.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:39 pm


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You know, it seems a little off to me that they are trying to compare marijuana smokers to cigarette smokers....but there requirements for the marijuana smokers seem alot higher than those for cigarette smokers. I mean, 5 years compared to 1 year, seriously?

So basically....if it takes 5 years to have the same amount of lung damage as a year of smoking cigarettes...I'll still gladly choose the weed.

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faolan

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:50 am


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You know, it seems a little off to me that they are trying to compare marijuana smokers to cigarette smokers....but there requirements for the marijuana smokers seem alot higher than those for cigarette smokers. I mean, 5 years compared to 1 year, seriously?

So basically....if it takes 5 years to have the same amount of lung damage as a year of smoking cigarettes...I'll still gladly choose the weed.

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Exactly -- that's one of the first things I noticed. That, and the instance of emphysema being significantly lower. Oh, and that the potheads didn't develop athsma or bronchitis, just temporary symptoms of them. So there really wasn't actually anything to report at all. o_O;
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:45 am


faolan
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You know, it seems a little off to me that they are trying to compare marijuana smokers to cigarette smokers....but there requirements for the marijuana smokers seem alot higher than those for cigarette smokers. I mean, 5 years compared to 1 year, seriously?

So basically....if it takes 5 years to have the same amount of lung damage as a year of smoking cigarettes...I'll still gladly choose the weed.

{{azure}}

Exactly -- that's one of the first things I noticed. That, and the instance of emphysema being significantly lower. Oh, and that the potheads didn't develop athsma or bronchitis, just temporary symptoms of them. So there really wasn't actually anything to report at all. o_O;


And thats the hard core bud smokers. Also, how big were those joints? My average joint is about half the size of a cigarette...but I've been known to have to use splints on my...err...longer....joints.

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faolan

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 3:03 pm


chainmailleman
faolan
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You know, it seems a little off to me that they are trying to compare marijuana smokers to cigarette smokers....but there requirements for the marijuana smokers seem alot higher than those for cigarette smokers. I mean, 5 years compared to 1 year, seriously?

So basically....if it takes 5 years to have the same amount of lung damage as a year of smoking cigarettes...I'll still gladly choose the weed.

{{azure}}

Exactly -- that's one of the first things I noticed. That, and the instance of emphysema being significantly lower. Oh, and that the potheads didn't develop athsma or bronchitis, just temporary symptoms of them. So there really wasn't actually anything to report at all. o_O;


And thats the hard core bud smokers. Also, how big were those joints? My average joint is about half the size of a cigarette...but I've been known to have to use splints on my...err...longer....joints.

rofl I'm just envisioning a dozen or so joints taped together...

Anyway though, no it didn't specify how big those joints were. And personally, I use a pipe or bubbler most of the time, so however much that'd be... o_O;
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:50 am


I think this is just propaganda. They used to tell us, back when I was in grade school, that one "joint is equal to a pack of cigarettes" in terms of damage it does to your lungs. This sounds like the same crap, just toned down a bit to sound more believable. evil

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faolan

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:22 pm


The headline's pure propaganda, definitely. But the actual article... reading between the lines, what the article actually says is that smoking marijuana doesn't actually cause either bronchitis or athsma (as is sometimes said), nor is it positively associated with emphysema.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:07 pm


What I found most interesting is that it's almost as if marijuana seems to have a negative assosiation with Emphysema. 16.3% of people who combine the two, 18.9% of tobacco-only smokers.

If marijuana caused emphysema in any way, wouldn't the rates of the two combined be higher than just tobacco? To me, this article screams "Smoke more bud!"

Piotr Stoochat


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:14 pm


The FDA
I think this is just propaganda. They used to tell us, back when I was in grade school, that one "joint is equal to a pack of cigarettes" in terms of damage it does to your lungs. This sounds like the same crap, just toned down a bit to sound more believable. evil
When DARE came to my grade school, we got told that,too.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:15 pm


I'd say that the joints would do a helluva lot less damage than cigs anyday. Seeing as though it's not just tobacco in these cigarettes, there's a list as long as my forearm of added chemicals for you to breathe in as well.

There may be more TAR in smoking weed, but a lot of that can be coughed back up when your lungs try to fix themselves. Drink a lot of green tea, and try healthy methods of smoking, i.e vaporizers, or bongs to increase this self cleaning effect.

Some of the gunk that gets in your lungs is also the paper of the joint. Cut that out, see what's up.

Or so I've been told/have experienced

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