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Celestine Ravencroft
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:28 pm


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rofl I cracked up so much when I read that. Where is the tip button when you need it?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:39 pm


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rofl I cracked up so much when I read that. Where is the tip button when you need it?

Because Gaia dumb (as Iosef once said). Screw yer tip button! rofl

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:44 pm


rofl Sissy I don't even know what to say rofl
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:48 pm


The only other thing I can really say is: Oh my lord, I'm not the only one to call "it" the Hoo-ha! xd

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rofl I cracked up so much when I read that. Where is the tip button when you need it?

Because Gaia dumb (as Iosef once said). Screw yer tip button! rofl

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:02 pm


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The only other thing I can really say is: Oh my lord, I'm not the only one to call "it" the Hoo-ha! xd

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rofl I cracked up so much when I read that. Where is the tip button when you need it?

Because Gaia dumb (as Iosef once said). Screw yer tip button! rofl

Well, let's just say that I'm a LOT less vulgar on this site. In real life, in my home, well... my family is rather crass. We're very sane in public, though. xp
PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:05 pm


I think a lot of people are probably that way. I'm guilty of it as well. xd

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Well, let's just say that I'm a LOT less vulgar on this site. In real life, in my home, well... my family is rather crass. We're very sane in public, though. xp

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:19 pm


The BFG nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra graphics card had been cleaned earlier, but then I noticed that the core hit 66 degrees Celsius idle. Finally, on July 3, 2013, I bothered to replace the original thermal paste on the card. It was a bit oily, and it cured. Then again, this card is about eight years old. The card now runs ~6-9 degrees cooler than earlier, and it doesn't skip as badly on my workstation build (will be much better in desktops). This card will need to run constantly for 24 hours.

The 8400GS PCI card will go to Dad as it runs Youtube videos pretty well, at least from my 'glitchy' Flash run on my workstation build. He needs a better PSU, though.

Now to wait on two GeForce 7 cards: the 7800GS (final run?) and 7600GS (needs serious capacitor replacement).

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Also, those old Yamaha speakers seem to pick up radio signals on rare occasion. eek They're not actually shielded, then.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:56 pm


So today of all days I decided to do some cleanup on my laptop's hard drive. Managed to delete a bunch of unnecessary files and then run the disk defragmenter. That was one lesson I learned the hard way with my old Compaq desktop. Well, that and to not overload your hard drive with a bunch of pictures and music. That is why I will be attempting to move my music onto an external drive to free up space on my laptop. I want this thing to last as long as possible, so that means not taxing it with a bunch of files. That, an always make sure your Intenet Security program is up to date. That is the one thing I like about Kaspersky over Norton. Kaspersky lets you know when your subscription is about to run out every day when you're down to 20 days remaining. Norton never did that (at least not when I was using it for my old Compaq).

Well, I've ranted enough about computer nonsense. Not like me at all, but today I have nothing better to say.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:01 pm


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Since you know so much about computers, I've got a question. We have an old Compaq desktop that I got back in 2005. Since then it has had it's system completely wiped and reloaded once due to a virus. One memory board has been added, but the thing is still slower than molasses. Playing things like HoC on Gaia and watching You Tube videos on that computer is especially difficult since the video is always very slow. What could I do to get it to speed up and play video a bit better? Also, the internal fan comes on way too much. Any ideas there? Operating system is XP, in case that makes a difference.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:32 pm


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Since you know so much about computers, I've got a question. We have an old Compaq desktop that I got back in 2005. Since then it has had it's system completely wiped and reloaded once due to a virus. One memory board has been added, but the thing is still slower than molasses. Playing things like HoC on Gaia and watching You Tube videos on that computer is especially difficult since the video is always very slow. What could I do to get it to speed up and play video a bit better? Also, the internal fan comes on way too much. Any ideas there? Operating system is XP, in case that makes a difference.

Will need the model number of the Compaq desktop, though, it probably won't be easy to find that. gonk If not, at least some screenshots of Device Manager with Processors and Display adapters collapsed. [Example is here. It is Win7 because I am not using my WinXP workstation, but Device Manager has not changed since Win95!] (Start Menu, click Run, type devmgmt.msc, press Enter.)

Wonder how much RAM is installed? System Properties will mention so. (Start Menu + Pause shortcut) [Example is here. Again, it is Win7, but WinXP is pretty general about it]

Interesting note: Windows XP's performance suffers in Pentium 4 systems when Service Pack 3 is installed. But, some stuff requires SP3. burning_eyes

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General stuff!:

Regarding the fan, for some reason, that reminds me of that computer I had to fix, and it was caked in dust in every crevice. The PSU was even filled with dust! gonk The system ran loud previously, but ran quiet after lengthy cleaning. Other than that, the thermal paste may finally need to be cleaned off the CPU and its heatsink and reapplied with new paste. Only recommended for those who know computer internals well. If it's the power supply, I'd rather use a can of compressed air if I were the average user, since taking apart the power supply, even to clean it, is actually dangerous. Worst case regarding the power supply would be if the fan is finally failing. In that case, it should be replaced.

The graphics probably are dated anyway. Probably some Intel graphics: i810/i815, 945/965 chipset lol. Onboard graphics use system RAM, and I assume the drivers are installed anyway. Flash is gearing towards graphics cards for bandwidth now in 11.x versions, known as hardware acceleration. Still would need a pretty good CPU, though. [I'm experimenting with older nVidia AGP cards for this as I know which ATI/AMD graphics cards use hardware acceleration. They're the Radeon HD series, which unsurprisingly have no PCI form factor, only the PCIe and AGP form factor.] If the system does not have an AGP slot, then the only more modern PCI graphics card would have to be a nVidia 8400 GS graphics card. But, you would probably need a power supply upgrade for this one, namely something with at least 15 amps on its +12V rail. This card is good for some 3D but nor gaming, but good for Flash and H.264 videos. There are some limitations regarding H.264 videos with this card, but it was fixed in newer nVidia cards. Radeon HD cards never had that issue, IIRC.

On system memory: Windows XP's minimum requirements are 64MB, but doesn't even do well with 128MB of RAM! Therefore, 256MB is what I recommend as minimum. Since most users have the 32-bit version, 1 or 2GB will be the maximum that most older boards will support. For more modern boards, PAE (Physical Address Extension) will be used, assuming the CPU has it, and you may use the full 4GB RAM, but the ultimate limiting factor is the chipset then.

Oh, there's quite a bit more... gonk

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:19 pm


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Here's those two pieces of info you asked for:

Comapq Pressario General Info

Compaq Pressario Device Manager


Desktop model number? Does SR1503WM sound right? It's the only number I can find on the stack.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:22 pm


So the local fire department decided to annoy me by putting on a fireworks show tonight. I could see (and hear) it from my apartment. If you didn't know any better, you'd have sworn it was a heavy lightning storm....punctuated by burst of red, blue, and green. I couldn't half hear my music over the noise.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:52 pm


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Here's those two pieces of info you asked for:

Comapq Pressario General Info

Compaq Pressario Device Manager


Desktop model number? Does SR1503WM sound right? It's the only number I can find on the stack.

Yes, SR1503WM is the model number.

Lol, it's a Pentium 4 Celeron version of my eMachines T1360 desktop! It'll at least perform better out of the box than my old machine would, though. Mine was epically slow, even with the 512MB RAM upgrade... and the 1MB video RAM didn't help its performance. Even 2D games lagged to heck on that thing! I just converted that thing into an FTP server.

Now the following:
* You have 1.25 GB of RAM. Your system can take 2GB DDR333 (PC2700) maximum.
* You have Intel i845 onboard graphics. Though better than my (broken) i810 graphics, recent Windows' Flash will not perform well with such graphics. My main hunch was right as well, you have no AGP slot on that board, so the nVidia GeForce 8400GS graphics card will have to be used. xp Though, I'm not sure if you can disable the onboard graphics in your BIOS. Sucks if you can't, however. But do this if the CPU upgrade doesn't speed things up enough.
* ...I just realized that you have a Celeron version of a Pentium 4 installed. That CPU only has 256KB L2 cache. Apparently, it can be upgraded to a Pentium 4 2.8GHz CPU. You can use the CPU which is either marked SL7E2 (which I don't have and never heard of it until now, has 1MB L2 cache, I should get one lol) or SL6PF (which I do have, has 512KB L2 cache), and they're cheap because they're Pentium 4.

So yeah, essentially hardware upgrades, unfortunately.

...makes me want to try Heralds of Chaos on my workstation system to see if it works properly and performs decently and if so, then this post would be finalized, as in no edits from here on out. [Edit: This game is eating up my CPUs. Since I'm using my nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra, it doesn't use the GPU because of lack of CUDA. :/]

...Also should've added this thread here. whee
PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:51 pm


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Thanks so much for all your help! Now at least I have a better idea of how to get this thing in better working condition.

I also discovered something odd about this particular computer (ever since the total system wipe and reload). Now we can't just use Star> Shut Down to turn off the computer, or it take forever for it to shut off. However, if I go Start>Log Off, let if log off (even though we aren't logged on with separate accounts at all) and then Shut Down once it "logs off", then it turns off really quick. What in the world is that mess about? confused

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:14 pm


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Thanks so much for all your help! Now at least I have a better idea of how to get this thing in better working condition.

I also discovered something odd about this particular computer (ever since the total system wipe and reload). Now we can't just use Star> Shut Down to turn off the computer, or it take forever for it to shut off. However, if I go Start>Log Off, let if log off (even though we aren't logged on with separate accounts at all) and then Shut Down once it "logs off", then it turns off really quick. What in the world is that mess about? confused

No problem!

Shutdown issue: That does remind me of the Windows XP Gold days, however. Yes, the early 2000s. Except, in our case, with the eMachines T1360 computer, Shut Down did nothing at all. Wish I found this way back then though: click

Also, some Norton Antivirus 2003 versions affected Windows XP shutdown back then.

Other than that, no danged clue. sweatdrop
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