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Should we legalise weed in the United States?

Yes! We should never have outlawed it! 0.60502442428472 60.5% [ 867 ]
No! Keep that dope off my streets! 0.39497557571528 39.5% [ 566 ]
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Dangerous Smoker

PLEASE READ THE FIRST POST!
Without any clinical proof of any long-term negative side effects, and not a single death credited to it's history, Many nations and states are considering the decriminalization of Cannabis Hemp, AKA Marijuanna.

When criminalized in 1937 in the Marihuana Stamp Act, The bill's cheif supporter, Harry Anslinger, testified that Marijuana induces terrible psychological illness and odd sexual habits in users, especially non-whites. Although all of these obviously racist "addiction symptoms" have been officially disproven, Marijuana remains a schedule-1 "Dangerous Narcotic" in the eyes of the DEA, and is Illegal.

In the modern world, medical researchers are finding more and more evidence that supports the use of hemp products as medicine, and several US state legislatures have legalized it's medicinal use. Countries such as the Netherlands have completely decriminalised it, and it is not a problem at all in their culture. It is sold in coffee shops, or "hashish parlors."

Many Americans call for the end of prohibition, yet some still say that weed is dangerous.

What do YOU think?


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Smegma has been banned from this thread for posting obscene images.
Legalize, obviously.

It's just prohibition all over again; everyone ends up getting it anyway, only from an illegal source, perpetuating black markets.

Dangerous Smoker

Ah, the Black Market. The only inherently evil thing about Pot. The criminal element behind the distribution.

If It becomes legalized, people will have the obvious options of either growing their own, or buying from stores. The "homegrower" style won't be harmed at all, and demand for homegrun pot will readily increased since the penalty is gone.

O.G. Gaian

NeXdarkone
Without any clinical proof of any long-term negative side effects, and not a single death credited to it's history

Not to mention the medically researched and acknowledged positive effects in numerous instances...

NeXdarkone
Many nations and states are considering the decriminalization of Cannabis Hemp, AKA Marijuanna.

Oh? Fill me in -- I haven't heard anything about its international status yet.

As for states, though -- you can already set aside twelve which have either decriminalized or legalized the medical use of marijuana.

NeXdarkone
What do YOU think?

Actually, I think I've seen a lot of marijuana legalization threads popping up in here lately, which is starting to be a tad eerie. It's also a litte frustrating to have to be posting the same damn thing in thread after thread... but then again, even when there's only one thread, no one seems to bother to read so much as the response directly above their own, let alone the most recent couple pages...

Oh. About herb. I think it's legal in California -- it's hard to remember sometimes... (j/k) I was told recently that by United Nations (read: international) law, a person can pretty much ingest most anything or do anything to themselves they wish as is customary according to their ethnic identity, culture, and most especially, their religion. So the plain fact basically is that the U.S.'s anti-drug program is in violation of U.N. mandate (haven't had the chance to cross-reference that at all yet, though, so if anyone knows any details...?)/
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I'm tired...so I'll keep it short.

Yes. It should be legalized.
1. It's not *that* harmful and like you said, it can't kill you.
2. I don't believe the government(or anyone else) should have any say over what I put into my own body.


And from another thread..this guy made me lol.

"it's been recently proven that pot increases psychotic behavior in people who otherwise arnt

girls on PMS would be scary

but yeah, they did a test on like 800 ppl and over 90% of them were over 40% more psychotic and violent"

^^That just screams bullshit to me.

Dangerous Smoker

Canada has generally decriminalized it meaning it's still illegal, but not enforced because it's not a real threat to national health or security. Just don't go blowing your joint smoke into a Mountie's face. Bad Idea.

Mexico has little to no enforcement, and much of the weed in US is smuggled from there.

Almost everyone has heard of the Hash Bars in amsterdam, where you buy you bud and pick a hookah, and just puff away.

There are plenty of smaller underdeveloped countries that have no marijuana laws whatsoever, and well, Nobody cares in these places.

Dangerous Smoker

Woah Its Azure
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they did a test on like 800 ppl and over 90% of them were over 40% more psychotic and violent"

^^That just screams bullshit to me.


That not only screams bullshit, but it stinks like it, too.

O.G. Gaian

Woah Its Azure
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I'm tired...so I'll keep it short.

Yes. It should be legalized.
1. It's not *that* harmful and like you said, it can't kill you.
2. I don't believe the government(or anyone else) should have any say over what I put into my own body.


And from another thread..this guy made me lol.

"it's been recently proven that pot increases psychotic behavior in people who otherwise arnt

girls on PMS would be scary

but yeah, they did a test on like 800 ppl and over 90% of them were over 40% more psychotic and violent"

^^That just screams bullshit to me.

*dies* Considering that cannabis consumption has been used to treat PMS symptoms for a heck of a long time (one of the most famous monthly marijuana consumers, actually, was Queen Victoria -- just a fun fact, that).... yeah. Whoever it was that said that... dude, he HAD to have been being sarcastic, right??
faolan
Woah Its Azure
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I'm tired...so I'll keep it short.

Yes. It should be legalized.
1. It's not *that* harmful and like you said, it can't kill you.
2. I don't believe the government(or anyone else) should have any say over what I put into my own body.


And from another thread..this guy made me lol.

"it's been recently proven that pot increases psychotic behavior in people who otherwise arnt

girls on PMS would be scary

but yeah, they did a test on like 800 ppl and over 90% of them were over 40% more psychotic and violent"

^^That just screams bullshit to me.

*dies* Considering that cannabis consumption has been used to treat PMS symptoms for a heck of a long time (one of the most famous monthly marijuana consumers, actually, was Queen Victoria -- just a fun fact, that).... yeah. Whoever it was that said that... dude, he HAD to have been being sarcastic, right??
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Nope...he even took the time to PM me and tell me to "stop spreading lies by saying that marijuana isn't that harmful". So I responded in the thread and in PM asking for proof.

I've yet to hear back stare

(It's why I stay away from LI most of the time....for a forum all about giving advice, they are some of the most judgmental ******** I've ever met.)
In my opinion it is a complete waste of taxpayers money. If the government would legalize it, they can control the sale of it. If they control the sale of it, they can ensure the quality of it, as well as tax it. This would actually gain money for them in two ways. For one, we would gain the millions (or more) that goes into prosecuting and enforcing laws pertaining to marijuana, secondly, we would gain a new taxable commodity. Hell, marijuana is hardly more dangerous that alcohol, and in my opinion, far less dangerous, but alcohol is legal.

And in my opinion, the same goes for other drugs. If the government controlled the sale and distribution, it would actually be in a far better position to help those suffering from drug abuse. And it's a hell of a lot better than just tossing them all in prison.

O.G. Gaian

NeXdarkone
Canada has generally decriminalized it meaning it's still illegal, but not enforced because it's not a real threat to national health or security. Just don't go blowing your joint smoke into a Mountie's face. Bad Idea.

You guys really should get aorund to changing the type of leaf on your flag, y'know...

NeXdarkone
Mexico has little to no enforcement

Of ANYTHING, really...

NeXdarkone
and much of the weed in US is smuggled from there.

Ehhh... not so much. The US government has been trying to get across that marijuana and ilegal immigrants are connected, but there's literally so much homegrown herb (and Mexican weed's gotten the reputation by now of being kinda shitty quality) that bud doesn't do much border-hopping anymore.

NeXdarkone
Almost everyone has heard of the Hash Bars in amsterdam, where you buy you bud and pick a hookah, and just puff away.

Coffee shops... now that is what Starbuck's needs.

NeXdarkone
There are plenty of smaller underdeveloped countries that have no marijuana laws whatsoever, and well, Nobody cares in these places.

That's why you end up running into Americans in strange places now -- or so I've been told. The pothead surfers have moved down the coast; Costa Rica might as well be a county in Southern California, in some ways...

O.G. Gaian

Woah Its Azure
faolan
Woah Its Azure
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I'm tired...so I'll keep it short.

Yes. It should be legalized.
1. It's not *that* harmful and like you said, it can't kill you.
2. I don't believe the government(or anyone else) should have any say over what I put into my own body.


And from another thread..this guy made me lol.

"it's been recently proven that pot increases psychotic behavior in people who otherwise arnt

girls on PMS would be scary

but yeah, they did a test on like 800 ppl and over 90% of them were over 40% more psychotic and violent"

^^That just screams bullshit to me.

*dies* Considering that cannabis consumption has been used to treat PMS symptoms for a heck of a long time (one of the most famous monthly marijuana consumers, actually, was Queen Victoria -- just a fun fact, that).... yeah. Whoever it was that said that... dude, he HAD to have been being sarcastic, right??
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Nope...he even took the time to PM me and tell me to "stop spreading lies by saying that marijuana isn't that harmful". So I responded in the thread and in PM asking for proof.

I've yet to hear back stare

(It's why I stay away from LI most of the time....for a forum all about giving advice, they are some of the most judgmental ******** I've ever met.)

You were better than I would probably have been... I can't think I'd have done anything but blink a couple times and say something about trusting a doctor on the subject way more than his opinionated, ignorant bullshit before blocking him or something...

But hey, that's why I don't go in LI ever anymore. gonk
NeXdarkone
That's the nastiest ******** thing I have ever ******** seen.

What in god's name do you think you're going to acomplish by posting that s**t? Have fun being banned from Gaia, a*****e.
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Pfft....he was pulling that s**t last night too. Only it was a cat. Hopefully this time they'll ban him.

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