Do we really need face time?

Is internet interaction enough to fulfill our need for social interaction?

Yes	24.1%	[ 7 ]
No	62.1%	[ 18 ]
Yes, with better tech	6.9%	[ 2 ]
Goldz	6.9%	[ 2 ]
Total Votes:			[ 29 ]

[Pseudo-Onkelos]

soracious wonk

It's the best virtual replacement he can get I guess on low tech and a small budget. ^^

It's sad, really.

soracious wonk

As for the potential for virtual reality to replace reality--your article states that people are becoming increasingly isolated. Is it possible that people are becoming more fearful?

I don't know what they would be fear.

soracious wonk

Even if that were not true, a virtual reality that could provide the same stimuli as reality (sight, touch, taste, sound, smell) could easily trump reality with benefits like:

-interaction through a buffer against real-world dangers like disease and violence

Explain.

soracious wonk

-the ability to choose every aspect of the way one portrays oneself, from appearance to in-world abilities; increased self-expression promoting maximum authenticity.

For example.

Books are comfortable wisdom. They don't bite or smell or scold or steal, you have to give them that.

I don't see the connection.

[CH1YO]

soracious wonk

CH1YO

Its not as good as oxygen but better than cheese.

Cheese is rich in calcium. Social interaction is usually just hot air.

Hot air is used in breathing, calcium can be found outside of dairy products.

soracious wonk

CH1YO

It is quite necessary indeed, as it makes interactions valid.

Only valid interactions make people feel less lonely? Only interactions believed to be valid make people less lonely?

Only valid interactions decrease loneliness.

soracious wonk

CH1YO

Anyone who masturbates for ten hours straight is missing the point.

I swear I don't masturbate for ten hours straight but...what is the point?

Masturbation is a substitute for real sexual contact.

soracious wonk

CH1YO

I make it my business to know such things.

Is business good?

That's none of my business.

soracious wonk

CH1YO

Positive relationships keep the voices away.

Unless you're having positive relationships with the voices...

One doesn't.

[sora wonk]

Pseudo-Onkelos

I don't know what they would be fear.

Other people. As a result of being isolated. Swine flu. Terrorists? If this were a real debate, I'd beg to drop this particular argument V_V

Pseudo-Onkelos

soracious wonk

Even if that were not true, a virtual reality that could provide the same stimuli as reality (sight, touch, taste, sound, smell) could easily trump reality with benefits like:
-interaction through a buffer against real-world dangers like disease and violence

Explain.

We can already create holograms and create 3D images and send the sensation of hugs across continents and translate real world movement into a digital medium. There's no reason we can't integrate these things into a fully immersive virtual world.

And because we can generally control virtual worlds better than we can control reality, virtual worlds could provide a safe place for people to interact without fear of getting stabbed or hit by cars or struck by lightning or catching TB. It's like reality, but safer.

Pseudo-Onkelos

soracious wonk

-the ability to choose every aspect of the way one portrays oneself, from appearance to in-world abilities; increased self-expression promoting maximum authenticity.

For example.

Books are comfortable wisdom. They don't bite or smell or scold or steal, you have to give them that.

I don't see the connection.

Oh after "For example." is a random response to the parable of the cynics who wanted books. I suppose I should quote segments from your posts and respond accordingly, but it takes such a long time ^^;

[Pseudo-Onkelos]

soracious wonk

Other people. As a result of being isolated. Swine flu. Terrorists? If this were a real debate, I'd beg to drop this particular argument V_V

Dropped.

soracious wonk

We can already create holograms and create 3D images and send the sensation of hugs across continents and translate real world movement into a digital medium. There's no reason we can't integrate these things into a fully immersive virtual world.

Mirror neurons already do this, viz. when you observe the behavior of another animal, your brain perceives it as though you, the observer, were performing the action.

soracious wonk

And because we can generally control virtual worlds better than we can control reality, virtual worlds could provide a safe place for people to interact without fear of getting stabbed or hit by cars or struck by lightning or catching TB. It's like reality, but safer.

No one worries about these things unless he or she is paranoid. Fear only occurs when danger or something unpleasant is imminent.

[sora wonk]

CH1YO

Hot air is used in breathing, calcium can be found outside of dairy products.

Why don't you go be a lawyer?

CH1YO

Only valid interactions decrease loneliness.

I want this proven experimentally.

CH1YO

Masturbation is a substitute for real sexual contact.

But he claims he has no desire for actual sex.

CH1YO

That's none of my business.

Now I'm confused ^^

CH1YO

soracious wonk

CH1YO

Positive relationships keep the voices away.

Unless you're having positive relationships with the voices...

One doesn't.

Joan of Arc?

[CH1YO]

soracious wonk

CH1YO

Hot air is used in breathing, calcium can be found outside of dairy products.

Why don't you go be a lawyer?

I'd get bored of it.

soracious wonk

CH1YO

Only valid interactions decrease loneliness.

I want this proven experimentally.

You're confusing experimental evidence and proof.

soracious wonk

CH1YO

Masturbation is a substitute for real sexual contact.

But he claims he has no desire for actual sex.

He's missing the point.

soracious wonk

CH1YO

That's none of my business.

Now I'm confused ^^

That's okaysies.

soracious wonk

CH1YO

soracious wonk

CH1YO

Positive relationships keep the voices away.

Unless you're having positive relationships with the voices...

One doesn't.

Joan of Arc?

Was incinerated for her convictions.

[Pseudo-Onkelos]

CH1YO

Was incinerated for her convictions.

I had a feeling you were going to say something like that.

[sora wonk]

Pseudo-Onkelos

Dropped.

Thanks!

Pseudo-Onkelos

Mirror neurons already do this, viz. when you observe the behavior of another animal, your brain perceives it as though you, the observer, were performing the action.

Cool. ^^

Pseudo-Onkelos

No one worries about these things unless he or she is paranoid. Fear only occurs when danger or something unpleasant is imminent.

Well, even assuming the paranoid are a minority, virtual worlds still have the benefit of being convenient. They also allow for interaction between a wider range of people, greater degrees of self expression, and a wider range of environments to explore--more stimulation.

With such benefits, even assuming an overcrowded future with a deteriorating environment doesn't come to be, virtual worlds certainly hold great appeal. Couldn't it be possible that most people's socializing will occur in this medium in the future?

[CH1YO]

Pseudo-Onkelos

CH1YO

Was incinerated for her convictions.

I had a feeling you were going to say something like that.

I aim to please.

[Pseudo-Onkelos]

soracious wonk

Well, even assuming the paranoid are a minority, virtual worlds still have the benefit of being convenient. They also allow for interaction between a wider range of people, greater degrees of self expression, and a wider range of environments to explore--more stimulation.

With such benefits, even assuming an overcrowded future with a deteriorating environment doesn't come to be, virtual worlds certainly hold great appeal. Couldn't it be possible that most people's socializing will occur in this medium in the future?

It's possible. I think VR would be convenient for entertainment, and when there is entertainment, there is generally social interaction.

[Pseudo-Onkelos]

CH1YO

Pseudo-Onkelos

CH1YO

Was incinerated for her convictions.

I had a feeling you were going to say something like that.

I aim to please.

I dare not reference the Skyrim meme about arrows.

[CH1YO]

Pseudo-Onkelos

CH1YO

Pseudo-Onkelos

CH1YO

Was incinerated for her convictions.

I had a feeling you were going to say something like that.

I aim to please.

I dare not reference the Skyrim meme about arrows.

You could but I wouldn't understand.

[sora wonk]

CH1YO

soracious wonk

Why don't you go be a lawyer?

I'd get bored of it.

It's possible to get bored of making nice sums of money?

CH1YO

You're confusing experimental evidence and proof.

I probably am. Will you give me proof, then?

CH1YO

soracious wonk

CH1YO

Masturbation is a substitute for real sexual contact.

But he claims he has no desire for actual sex.

He's missing the point.

Well I do have a desire for actual sex but...what is this "point" again?

CH1YO

That's okaysies.

Well that makes everything better.

CH1YO

Was incinerated for her convictions.

I prefer "Buoyed to heaven in a glorious pillar of fire."

[Pseudo-Onkelos]

CH1YO

Pseudo-Onkelos

CH1YO

Pseudo-Onkelos

CH1YO

Was incinerated for her convictions.

I had a feeling you were going to say something like that.

I aim to please.

I dare not reference the Skyrim meme about arrows.

You could but I wouldn't understand.

Haha! emotion_bigheart

[CH1YO]

soracious wonk

CH1YO

I'd get bored of it.

It's possible to get bored of making nice sums of money?

Of course, after a certain point it is a senseless endeavour.

soracious wonk

CH1YO

You're confusing experimental evidence and proof.

I probably am. Will you give me proof, then?

I don't have to.

soracious wonk

CH1YO

He's missing the point.

Well I do have a desire for actual sex but...what is this "point" again?

That masturbation exists as a substitute for actual sexual contact.

soracious wonk

CH1YO

That's okaysies.

Well that makes everything better.

I had hoped it would.

soracious wonk

CH1YO

Was incinerated for her convictions.

I prefer "Buoyed to heaven in a glorious pillar of fire."

That is possibly the case but she definitely was executed for witchcraft.